Philippines Defence Forum

[Cossack25A1]

The original French exocet missile would be perfectly fit to arm the Cutters, since PH would avoid installing Chinese missile system i suppose.

How about her chances to win? any recent poll statistic?

Possibly, either the Exocet missile or the Harpoon missile, but the latter is very expensive... though there is a chance that rather arming the cutters with missile, the PH Navy would likely look forward for the a new ship that is equipped with missile.

http://www.manilalivewire.com/2016/...ed-to-buy-the-karmota-class-frigate-of-india/

As for the Philippine president, this is the latest (and final) survey statistics.

The one I voted for is dead last.

 

[pr1v4t33r]

The one I voted for is dead last.

. So many candidate. Will they have to get 50%+1 vote to win? or whoever with the highest percentage win?

 

[Nike]

actually C-705 is a lighter version compared to exocet, C-802 is a more appropriate comparison to Exocet

 

[pr1v4t33r]

actually C-705 is a lighter version compared to exocet, C-802 is a more appropriate comparison to Exocet

Indeed, but we were talking about C-705 missile earlier and suggesting comparable western missile system for PN. Are there more fitting comparison for C-705?

 

[Nike]

Indeed, but we were talking about C-705 missile earlier and suggesting comparable western missile system for PN. Are there more fitting comparison for C-705?

This in class of Gabriel missile

 

[pr1v4t33r]

This in class of Gabriel missile

Are you sure, i look into google and find this stat.

Gabriel missile Specifications

Weight
Mark I: 430 kg
Mark II: 522 kg
Mark III: 560 kg
Mark III A/S: 590 kg
Mark IV: 960 kg

Warhead
Mark II: 100 kg
Mark III / IIIA/S: 150 kg
Mark IV: 240 kg

Operational range
Mark I: 20 km
Mark II:6–36 km
Mark III:36 km
Mark IIIA/S:60 km
Mark IV:200 km

 

[Cossack25A1]

. So many candidate. Will the they have to get 50%+1 vote to win? or whoever with the highest percentage?

Well the counting will begin in just about an hour, but whatever the result, it will have an impact in regards to the relation between the Philippines and the United States of America, as well as between the Philippines and the People's Republic China.

Thing is, the presidential candidate that is leading in the survey (Rodrigo Duterte) is in favor of bilateral talks with China, even as going as far as "shutting up" if China builds railways here in the Philippines, and he has a rather controversial relations with the CPP-NPA; Communist Party of the Philippines-New People's Army, the former being the political party and the latter its armed wing that continues to fight the Philippine government, wreaking havoc in the provinces.

He is also against the modernization of the PH military, particularly the modernization of the territorial defense capability of the Philippine military.

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Well the counting will begin in just about an hour, but whatever the result, it will have an impact in regards to the relation between the Philippines and the United States of America, as well as between the Philippines and the People's Republic China.

Sure, but i won't comment on Philippine domestic politics. I'm sure PH are mature enough to choose their president. I hope so .

But earlier i ask about how the presidency seat is won. From the poll, nobody gather more than 50% vote. Will there be 2nd round of voting by the 2 highest voted candidate. Or whoever get the highest vote will win the presidency seat?

In Indonesia election, President must get atleast 50%+1 vote to win

 

[Cossack25A1]

Sure, but i won't comment on Philippine domestic politics. I'm sure PH are mature enough to choose their president. I hope so .

But earlier i ask about how the presidency seat is won. From the poll, nobody gather more than 50% vote. Will there be 2nd round of voting by the 2 highest voted candidate. Or whoever get the highest vote will win the presidency seat?

In Indonesia's election, President must win atleast 50%+1 vote.

Actually, how "mature" Filipinos are in terms of voting is well uhm... T_____T

Usually, the one with the most number of votes wins. Thus if Candidate A has the most number of votes (given that all the ballots are counted properly), Candidate A is declared the winner.

 

[pr1v4t33r]

Usually, the one with the most number of votes wins. Thus if Candidate A has the most number of votes (given that all the ballots are counted properly), Candidate A is declared the winner.

I can see why would PH choose this method, since it's simpler and considerably cheaper to organize. But, there's much higher drawback to this system.

If the president win the election with less than 50% vote, it's means that more than 50% population are not his/her supporter. This will bring the question of "legitimacy" of his/her power. Can he/she consolidate the various political power, stabilize the country and run his government effectively? Or will there be constant conflict and disturbance that threaten social, political and economic stability?

 

[Cossack25A1]

I can see why would PH choose this method, since it's simpler and considerably cheaper to organize. But, there's much higher drawback to this system.

If the president win the election with less than 50% vote, it's means that more than 50% population are not his/her supporter. This will bring the question of "legitimacy" of his/her power. Can he/she consolidate the real political power, stabilize the country and run his government well? Or will there be constant conflict and disturbance that threaten social, political and economic stability?

Since 1986, this has been an issue - disunity between political parties thus some politicians have dissenting views about certain programs the elected president will propose, though not to the point that will threaten social and political stability unless it reaches a point that coups are becoming common, but whether there is an effect on political and social stability, any disunity will always have an effect on the economy as some programs of the former president may not be supported by the newly elected president or worse, outright cancel said programs.

This is the tentative results of the elections for the 2016 Philippine general elections - President and Vice-President.

(Time is +0800 GMT)

PRESIDENTIAL

Rank Candidate Political Party Vote Count

1
DUTERTE, RODY
PARTIDO DEMOKRATIKO PILIPINO LAKAS NG BAYAN
127,829

2
ROXAS, MAR
LIBERAL PARTY
93,363

3
POE, GRACE
INDEPENDENT
78,742

4
BINAY, JOJO
UNITED NATIONALIST ALLIANCE
54,269

5
DEFENSOR SANTIAGO, MIRIAM
PEOPLE`S REFORM PARTY
15,333

6
SEÑERES, ROY
PARTIDO NG MANGGAGAWA AT MAGSASAKA
222

PARTIAL AND UNOFFICIAL RESULTS AS OF 5:28PM May 09, 2016 - 0.72% OF REGISTERED VOTERS | SOURCE: COMELEC TRANSPARENCY SERVER



VICE PRESIDENTIAL
Rank Candidate Political Party Vote Count

1
MARCOS, BONGBONG
INDEPENDENT
144,017

2
ROBREDO, LENI
LIBERAL PARTY
121,283

3
CAYETANO, ALAN PETER
INDEPENDENT
41,896

4
ESCUDERO, CHIZ
INDEPENDENT
36,528

5
TRILLANES, ANTONIO IV
INDEPENDENT
7,348

6
HONASAN, GRINGO
UNITED NATIONALIST ALLIANCE
7,070

PARTIAL AND UNOFFICIAL RESULTS AS OF 5:28PM May 09, 2016 - 0.72% OF REGISTERED VOTERS | SOURCE: COMELEC TRANSPARENCY SERVER


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This is the tentative results of the elections for the 2016 Philippine general elections - President and Vice-President.

As of 1900 (7:00 PM) Philippine Standard Time / 1100 (11:00 AM) GMT
(Time is +0800 GMT)

PRESIDENTIAL

Rank Candidate Political Party Vote Count

1
DUTERTE, RODY
PARTIDO DEMOKRATIKO PILIPINO LAKAS NG BAYAN
7,034,664

2
POE, GRACE
INDEPENDENT
4,012,417

3
ROXAS, MAR
LIBERAL PARTY
3,847,989

4
BINAY, JOJO
UNITED NATIONALIST ALLIANCE
2,373,262

5
DEFENSOR SANTIAGO, MIRIAM
PEOPLE`S REFORM PARTY
744,707

6
SEÑERES, ROY
PARTIDO NG MANGGAGAWA AT MAGSASAKA
9,933

PARTIAL AND UNOFFICIAL RESULTS AS OF 7:00PM May 09, 2016 - -% OF REGISTERED VOTERS | SOURCE: COMELEC TRANSPARENCY SERVER




VICE PRESIDENTIAL
Rank Candidate Political Party Vote Count


1
MARCOS, BONGBONG
INDEPENDENT
6,536,505

2
ROBREDO, LENI
LIBERAL PARTY
5,850,998

3
CAYETANO, ALAN PETER
INDEPENDENT
2,460,587

4
ESCUDERO, CHIZ
INDEPENDENT
2,081,343

5
TRILLANES, ANTONIO IV
INDEPENDENT
346,953

6
HONASAN, GRINGO
UNITED NATIONALIST ALLIANCE
301,384

PARTIAL AND UNOFFICIAL RESULTS AS OF 7:00PM May 09, 2016 - -% OF REGISTERED VOTERS | SOURCE: COMELEC TRANSPARENCY SERVER


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[pr1v4t33r]

http://ph.rappler.com/elections/2016/results

Interesting election system, so PH vote president & vice president separetely? interesting...

And Duterte only need 13 million voters to become the president of the Philippine...
For comparison study, Indonesian president was backed by more than 70 million voters in the last election...

 

[Cossack25A1]

Yes, we vote our president and vice-president separately unlike the USA, thus we end up having a president from "Party A" while the vice-president comes from "Party B".

 

[anon45]

Yes, we vote our president and vice-president separately unlike the USA, thus we end up having a president from "Party A" while the vice-president comes from "Party B".

Oh god, we had a system in the beginning where we electected the president and the vice president was the runner-up... it was not a good system to say the least. How does that work out for the Philippines if the President and the VP come from different parties and hate each other?


As an aside, I will be very interested in seeing how Duterte governs, the talk i've seen makes him out to be a Trump variety of strongman, lots of bluster.

Apparently he has personal tensions with Australia and the US? Will be interesting to see how his foreign policy turns out.

 

[Cossack25A1]

One example is the current administration - President Benigno Aquino III came from "Liberal Party" while Vice President Jejomar Binay came from "Nacionalista Party"

From 2010 to 2016, well there were some conflict of interest and disagreements when it comes to policy, but it didn't compromise the country's stability.