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PLAAF's new toys: Mig29.... Enjoy the news

2 Chinese jets enter RP skies, ‘harass’ PAF aircraft in Spratlys

The Daily Tribune - Without Fear or Favor

By Mario J. Mallari
05/20/2011

Two Chinese jet fighters were reportedly monitored recently along the vicinities of the Philippine-occupied Kalayaan Group of Islands (KGI) and allegedly harassed two Philippine Air Force (PAF) aircraft that were conducting reconnaissance patrol on the disputed South China Sea.

Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) chief of staff Gen. Eduardo Oban Jr. said the military is now validating the report that two Chinese MIG-29 were seen flying over the disputed territories on South China Sea.

“We are validating reports pertinent to that,” said Oban during a forum at the Philippine Information Agency (PIA).

There were reports that the Chinese jet fighters last Thursday even buzzed over two Air Force OV-10 bombers conducting routine reconnaissance patrol at the Philippine-occupied Reed Bank near Palawan province.

While he did not confirm or deny the incident, Oban maintained the military does not see such occurrence as “bullying” on the part of China against the Philippines.

“We don’t look at it that way…on the part of the Armed Forces of the Philippines, we just do the mandate that’s given to us, we conduct patrol on our territorial waters to make sure there is protection of our maritime resources and to make sure that there is no intrusion and there are no violations of our maritime laws,” he stressed.

Oban, however, admitted the AFP has limited capability to monitor maritime activities within the country’s territorial waters, particularly in Palawan area, where the Malampaya oil exploration and the KGIs are located.

“As of now, we need to build up

capability in terms of monitoring and detection, that is our priority when it comes to capability development…to come up with an effective detection and monitoring system most particularly in the Palawan area where we have vast maritime resources to protect,” Oban said.

In the absence of military capability, Oban admitted that the first option with regard to alleged intrusion would be filing diplomatic protest.

“In terms of capability, number one, we don’t actually have the detection and monitoring capability, we don’t have radars to check if indeed they intruded into our airspace. Second, if indeed we have that capability we need interdiction, we still don’t have capability to interdict or to intercept. That’s why the first option in our list is

diplomatic protest,” Oban said.

The latest incident involving the Chinese came three days before USS Carl Vinson, a United States aircraft carrier, anchored on Manila Bay.

The military leadership stressed that the visit was a routine port call.

Last March, two Chinese patrol vessels harassed a Department of Energy exploration vessel also at the Reed Bank.

The military dispatched two OV-10 bombers to drive away the Chinese ships.

The government subsequently filed diplomatic protest against China, which, in turn, accused the Philippines of invading Chinese territories.

The Chinese Embassy in Manila has insisted that Beijing has sovereignty over the Spratlys, an oil-rich chain of tiny islands and reefs are claimed in whole or in part by Brunei, China, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam.

Meanwhile, more than P5 billion worth of military “hardware” will be delivered to the AFP this year, most of them intended to enhance the Navy’s maritime patrol capability, as part of its continuing modernization program.

Oban said 13 projects are scheduled to be delivered for 2011, including aircraft for the Air Force, patrol craft for the Navy and night-fighting system for the Army.

Among the deliverable “hardware” for the Navy are Jacinto-class patrol vessel upgrade worth P353.65 million, patrol-killer medium (PKM) worth P280 million, radio 20W configuration worth P231 million, and P179 million worth of landing craft utility and military trucks.

“For the protection of our maritime resources within our territorial waters, we need navy vessels to attain these objectives,” Oban stressed.

Also, the Navy is awaiting the arrival of its first Hamilton cutter acquired from the United States Coast Guard this August.

Oban said the Hamilton cutter will be initially deployed to Palawan area.

The chief of staff said the AFP wants to acquire two more Hamilton cutters. The military is spending more than P450 million for the acquisition, transport and personnel training of the first Hamilton.

“We intend to procure two more based on our plans submitted to the President,” he said. Oban also aired the need for the acquisition of radar for the much-needed detection system in the Palawan area where poaching by fishermen from neighboring countries is prevalent.

On the other hand, the Air Force is awaiting the delivery of P2.9 billion worth of combat utility helicopters, basic trainer aircraft valued at P622 million, MD 520MG helicopters upgrade at P240 million and aerial camera worth P51 million.

The Army will be receiving P341.5 million worth of night-fighting system including night-vision goggles, and audio-visual system worth P38 million for its civil military operations.

The AFP Medical Center will also receive more than P13 million worth of upgrade on its operating room.
 
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PLAAF's new toys: Mig29.... Enjoy the news

2 Chinese jets enter RP skies, ‘harass’ PAF aircraft in Spratlys

The Daily Tribune - Without Fear or Favor

Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) chief of staff Gen. Eduardo Oban Jr. said the military is now validating the report that two Chinese MIG-29 were seen flying over the disputed territories on South China Sea.

Should we assume these are Su-27s or J-11s? Pretty awful mistake for a chief of staff to make.
 
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PLAAF doesn't have any MiG-29s. PLAAF's core jets are the Su-27, Su-30, and J-10. Soon, J-20s will be flying in the skies.
 
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2 Chinese MiG-29s, huh?

Damn, I knew we should have brought out our F-35s and Su-30MKIs instead.
 
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Do not overestimate the competency of 3rd world banana republic AF "professionals": Iraqi AF decision makers thought the MiG-23 to the equal of F-14!
 
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PLAAF doesn't have any MiG-29s. PLAAF's core jets are the Su-27, Su-30, and J-10. Soon, J-20s will be flying in the skies.

And J-11B.

The principal combatants in the PLAAF (as of now) are the J-10 and the J-11B series.

Soon, you'd be having a hell lot more jet models in the PLAAF than just the J-20.
 
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Do not overestimate the competency of 3rd world banana republic AF "professionals": Iraqi AF decision makers thought the MiG-23 to the equal of F-14!
In the hands of skilled Soviet pilots, the Mig-23 can pose some serious threat to F-14. It's actually not that bad of a plane, but just got overshadowed.
 
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In the hands of skilled Soviet pilots, the Mig-23 can pose some serious threat to F-14. It's actually not that bad of a plane, but just got overshadowed.

Kind of highlights the importance of command and control/strategy over pure hardware doesn't it.
 
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But Tomcat is alot better than Mig23. isn't it? Powerful radar and Phoenix missiles.

Yep F-14 a lot better (I think) but with good command and control, the Iraqis could have won in 2003. As was shown by the exercise they held before the invasion.

The Iraqis were the red force and was led during the simulation by a retired Marine Lt. Gen.

Red, commanded by retired Marine Corps Lt. General Paul K. Van Riper, used old methods to evade Blue's sophisticated electronic surveillance network. Van Riper used motorcycle messengers to transmit orders to front-line troops and World War II light signals to launch airplanes without radio communications.

Red received an ultimatum from Blue, essentially a surrender document, demanding a response within 24 hours. Thus warned of Blue's approach, Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected.[1]

Millennium Challenge 2002 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But of course Saddam's generals were no Paul Van Riper, and were pretty sycophants and yes men.
 
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I don't enjoy a single bit. Wasting imported oils for nothing. Freaking confucise crap, it works only in internal affairs; for external affairs, piss around in the plane over Phillipine and mark your territory, China! You do it.

What the hell are you talking about! There is no hell of Mig 29 in the Air Force.

What the Filipinos might have found belong to Viet Nam or other country who has this grandma aged model.
 
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