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Low turnout as 200 protesters :lol: gather at industrial estate as similar rallies take place across Europe

Supporters of the anti-Islam group Pegida staged a silent march in Birmingham standing against what they called “the most dreadful, subversive, violent ideology” as clashes broke out at twin rallies in France and the
Netherlands.

About 200 demonstrators gathered for the inaugural Pegida rally in the UK – half as many as expected by police – which took place on an industrial estate miles from the city centre.

The rally appeared to pass without incident as dozens of riot police kept Pegida supporters away from about 60 anti-fascism activists at Birmingham International rail station.

West Midlands police said they made one arrest – at the anti-fascism counter demonstration for a public order offence – during the Birmingham rally, one of 14 expected to take place around Europe on Saturday.

Tommy Robinson, the former EDL leader who organised the Pegida UK
rally, said after the march there had been “no racism, no inciting hatred, no violence, no thugs, no hooligans. This is a movement you can support”.

However, lecturer Paul Kohler, who was savagely beaten by Polish
burglars
who broke into his west London home last year, was at the demonstration for a Channel 4 News programme and said he was depressed by the views of those on the march.

“I was drawn into the immigration debate and I wanted to come and see these people, hear their arguments and confront them,” he said. “It’s been sadly depressing. It’s lived up to all my worst fears.”

Many demonstrators held placards featuring Donald Trump, saying: “Trump is right” – a possible reference to the Republican candidate for the US presidential election’s controversial call for a halt on Muslim immigration to the US.

Others bore placards with an image of Islamic State fighter Mohammed Emwazi, the British man known as Jihadi John, saying: “Cultural enrichment?” Another poster said: “Rape culture is being imported.”

Addressing a crowd of about 150 Pegida supporters, Robinson said: “As we set off at 2pm, people set off in Germany, in Holland, in Bulgaria, in the Czech Republic, in Belgium, in Poland. Our opposition will say you achieved nothing today – the whole of Europe is talking about this debate right now thanks to every single person in Europe that’s taken part in it.”

Robinson said on Friday night he met a man with a swastika tattoo on his finger who said he was going to the Pegida UK march. “Six years on and I’m still having to tell you: if you’re a Nazi, if you’re a racist, and you’re watching this – you’re not welcome on the streets in the UK with us,” he said to cheers.

He denied suggestions Pegida had been forced by police to protest in an empty industrial estate, claiming he selected the venue: “It’s sad that we have to come into the middle of nowhere to make sure we can show ourselves for what we are, to make sure that bottles and bricks are not raining in on top of us.”

Addressing the lower-than-expected turnout, he added: “Mark my words, many people today have sat on the fence; they want to see what happens. Let them know what’s happened: we met up, we were civilised, we walked in complete silence, we held speeches, we exercised our freedom of speech, we showed solidarity across Europe and then we went home – that’s all that happened.”

Paul Weston, the failed Ukip candidate who was unveiled by Robinson in January as the Pegida UK leader, described radical Islam as “Nazism incarnate” in a speech at the end of the march. “We’re called far-right because we dare to criticise Islam,” he said. “We’re called fascists and Nazis. But if you look at the ideology of Islam and you look at the ideology of Nazism, they are exactly the same side of the coin,” he said. :disagree:

Weston claimed there were thousands of mosques in the UK promoting “the most dreadful, subversive, violent ideology” to young children.

Robinson announced that Pegida UK would stage further demonstrations in Birmingham – a city he has previously labelled the terrorist epicentre of Britain – on the first Saturday of every month starting in April.

Some Pegida supporters, however, expressed disappointment at the size of the turnout. Standing with his 17-year-old daughter Robyn, Trevor MacDivitt, 54, said he hoped for crowds of 10,000 to mirror the Pegida movement in Germany, where it started in 2014.

“Maybe I’m naive, [but] this is disappointing,” he said before the march began. “I’m sure each one of us knows 100 people who would have come along but this is embarrassing really.”

Asked why he sympathised with Pegida, the plastics worker from Dudley said: “Nothing against foreign people. We feel there’s no place in Europe for Islam. You don’t know who you can and can’t trust. You don’t know what’s going on in mosques, you don’t know what’s going on in schools.”

Gordon Millar, 55, said he spent £100 on return flights from Belfast to attend his first demonstration – even though he was in two minds about whether to come because it might turn violent. “I don’t want to be here,” he said. “I’d rather hide away in the shed and ignore the problem. I really do believe Islam is incompatible with civilised society and there’s trouble brewing.”

Twin demonstrations turned ugly in both Calais and Amsterdam. French police fired tear gas after about 150 anti-migrant protesters defied a ban and rallied in support of the Europe-wide Pegida movement, while in Amsterdam, a square near the city hall that had been earmarked for the demonstration had to be shut down shortly before the gathering as explosives experts examined what Dutch police called a “suspect package”.

Only about 200 Pegida supporters were present in the Dutch city, outnumbered by police and leftwing demonstrators who shouted: “Refugees are welcome, fascists are not.” Dutch riot police detained several people as officers on horseback intervened to separate the two groups.

Source The Guardian
 
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Islam "the violent ideology" contributed to the world by creating things such as Welfare System and Hospitals.

Many great people from the Islamic golden age have bee forgotten such as: Ibn Muadh al-Jayyani, Alhazen, Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi, Ibn al-Nafis etc.

All great physicists, biologist, chemist, mathematicians, astronomers forgotten all because of recent set backs in the Islamic world. How sad.
 
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Islam "the violent ideology" contributed to the world by creating things such as Welfare System and Hospitals.

History of hospitals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Medicine in medieval Islam
The first physicians under Muslim rule were Christians or Jews in conquered areas in the 7th century.

Welfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Welfare state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

All great physicists, biologist, chemist, mathematicians, astronomers forgotten all because of recent set backs in the Islamic world. How sad.

Because you don't have any now ... and those guys where the last ... its not Western fault for muslims going in the wrong way ...

Low turnout as 200 protesters :lol: gather at industrial estate as similar rallies take place across Europe

I don't think that's something to laugh ... They are starting to get more and more members ...
 
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History of hospitals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Medicine in medieval Islam
The first physicians under Muslim rule were Christians or Jews in conquered areas in the 7th century.

Welfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Welfare state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Because you don't have any now ... and those guys where the last ... its not Western fault for muslims going in the wrong way ...


LOL,i was just about to post about history of hospitals,you beat me by 60 seconds.It's not the first time i hear such nonsense about Islam giving the world hospitals.They were around since the Romans.

As i've said many times before,one of the problems of the muslim world today is that it's teached some historical falsehoods.
 
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LOL,i was just about to post about history of hospitals,you beat me by 60 seconds.It's not the first time i hear such nonsense about Islam giving the world hospitals.They were around since the Romans.

As i've said many times before,one of the problems of the muslim world today is that it's teached some historical falsehoods.
The problem with Christian world is that ..it is controlled by Jews....:yahoo:

Pegida should understand that there's millions of European Jews illegally living in Palestine...most importantly from Germany.. so it's basically Christians are paying the price ,yet again, for being the bitch of Jews..:angry:
 
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Islam "the violent ideology" contributed to the world by creating things such as Welfare System and Hospitals.

Many great people from the Islamic golden age have bee forgotten such as: Ibn Muadh al-Jayyani, Alhazen, Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi, Ibn al-Nafis etc.

All great physicists, biologist, chemist, mathematicians, astronomers forgotten all because of recent set backs in the Islamic world. How sad.

Yeah the problem is these discoveries were 100s if not 1000s of years ago.

The world has moved on. We're planning human landings on mars, perhaps even setting up a permanent base there. We're finding out about the very makings of our universe, eg. with the Higgs Boson particle. Nuclear fission is getting closer.

Yet all the Arabs can think about is god. The world has moved on. It's time for the Arabs to catch up. There's complete madness taking over many Muslim countries and it's a danger to everyone. I just hope it can be controlled.
 
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Islam "the violent ideology" contributed to the world by creating things such as Welfare System and Hospitals.

Many great people from the Islamic golden age have bee forgotten such as: Ibn Muadh al-Jayyani, Alhazen, Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi, Ibn al-Nafis etc.

All great physicists, biologist, chemist, mathematicians, astronomers forgotten all because of recent set backs in the Islamic world. How sad.

Far more muslims have been killed by the actions of the west in Palestine and Iraq, then have ever been killed by 'muslim terrorists'. But it's the muslims who are violent!
 
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The problem with Christian world is that ..it is controlled by Jews....:yahoo:

Pegida should understand that there's millions of European Jews illegally living in Palestine...most importantly from Germany.. so it's basically Christians are paying the price ,yet again, for being the bitch of Jews..:angry:


The historical,rightfull lands of the Israelites stretch beyond today's borders of modern Israel.So,i think Israel got a somewhat unfair deal.

Far more muslims have been killed by the actions of the west in Palestine and Iraq, then have ever been killed by 'muslim terrorists'. But it's the muslims who are violent!


Those muslims got killed by other muslims.West has no fault.
 
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The historical,rightfull lands of the Israelites stretch beyond today's borders of modern Israel.So,i think Israel got a somewhat unfair deal.





Those Muslims got killed by other Muslims.West has no fault.

600 years ago, Norway owned much of Scotland; so you accept their right to return there?

Approx 1 million Iraqis died as a result of US sanctions before the second Gulf war. How many died during and after the Gulf war? Another million? And how many millions have died as a result of terrorism in the west? 3-4 thousand?

And how many Palestinians have died at the hands of the US surrogate Israel?

Far more Muslims have died at the hands of the west, then western victims of terrorism. Fact.

The numbers aren't even close.
 
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600 years ago, Norway owned much of Scotland; so you accept their right to return there?

Approx 1 million Iraqis died as a result of US sanctions before the second Gulf war. How many died during and after the Gulf war? Another million? And how many millions have died as a result of terrorism in the west? 3-4 thousand?

And how many Palestinians have died at the hands of the US surrogate Israel?

Far more Muslims have died at the hands of the west, then western victims of terrorism. Fact.

The numbers aren't even close.


There you go again,blaming others when the culprits are muslims.This apologism forbids you to see your own fault.1 Million Iraqis died because Saddam invaded Kuweit.After the 2nd Gulw war most died because muslims kill other muslims for being less muslims in their eyes.West has no fault that many muslims live in the 8th century and fight religious wars amongst themselves.Muslims must solve their internal problems not blame others for their pathetic failures.

Very few Palestinians died given the fact that if the roles would be reversed "they would throw the Jews into the sea".Actually,Israel's muslim neighbours tried that and they got humiliated.They're lucky that the Jews are civilised and didn't reciprocate in kind,or else there wouldn't be 1 muslim in Israel or Palestine.Would you like the Jews to behave like the muslims and "throw every muslim into the sea?".You re not mad about Palestinians,you are just butthurt that you couldn't genocide the Jews.
 
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The historical,rightfull lands of the Israelites stretch beyond today's borders of modern Israel.So,i think Israel got a somewhat unfair deal.


White Jews have no right to live in Palestine..yet, there's Millions of them.....btw..fairy tale books doesn't even count...as historical document.....:rofl:

There you go again,blaming others when the culprits are muslims.This apologism forbids you to see your own fault.1 Million Iraqis died because Saddam invaded Kuweit.After the 2nd Gulw war most died because muslims kill other muslims for being less muslims in their eyes.West has no fault that many muslims live in the 8th century and fight religious wars amongst themselves.Muslims must solve their internal problems not blame others for their pathetic failures.

Very few Palestinians died given the fact that if the roles would be reversed "they would throw the Jews into the sea".Actually,Israel's muslim neighbours tried that and they got humiliated.They're lucky that the Jews are civilised and didn't reciprocate in kind,or else there wouldn't be 1 muslim in Israel or Palestine.Would you like the Jews to behave like the muslims and "throw every muslim into the sea?".You re not mad about Palestinians,you are just butthurt that you couldn't genocide the Jews.
Jews and their delusion .....:yahoo::yahoo:

Donald Trump the new Fuhrer. :rofl:
Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz..are way worse than Trump....these two Slave of Jews...could trigger world war 3...for the sake of Jewish Terrorism..
 
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There you go again,blaming others when the culprits are muslims.This apologism forbids you to see your own fault.1 Million Iraqis died because Saddam invaded Kuweit.After the 2nd Gulw war most died because muslims kill other muslims for being less muslims in their eyes.West has no fault that many muslims live in the 8th century and fight religious wars amongst themselves.Muslims must solve their internal problems not blame others for their pathetic failures.

Very few Palestinians died given the fact that if the roles would be reversed "they would throw the Jews into the sea".Actually,Israel's muslim neighbours tried that and they got humiliated.They're lucky that the Jews are civilised and didn't reciprocate in kind,or else there wouldn't be 1 muslim in Israel or Palestine.Would you like the Jews to behave like the muslims and "throw every muslim into the sea?".You re not mad about Palestinians,you are just butthurt that you couldn't genocide the Jews.

Answer the question. I am not talking about the iran/.iraq war.

The sanctions on Iraq killed vast numbers of Iraqis. As did the US invasion of Iraq.

Butthurt? Its you that's butthurt.
 
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Answer the question. I am not talking about the iran/.iraq war.

The sanctions on Iraq killed vast numbers of Iraqis. As did the US invasion of Iraq.

Butthurt? Its you that's butthurt.


I've answered.The sanctions came because Iraq invaded Kuweit---Iraq fault.

After the 2nd Gulf war more muslims died due to shiite vs sunni wars than American invasion.Don't blame others for muslims killing muslims.
 
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