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PDF community reaction to UAE-Israel peace deal, Does it helps Palestinian cause and Arab Unity?

  • Yes, UAE did right thing

    Votes: 15 21.4%
  • No , UAE made a incorrect decision which is not helpful to Palestinians

    Votes: 32 45.7%
  • UAE has backstabbed Arabs

    Votes: 18 25.7%
  • Arab Unit is strong as ever

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • Every Arab country is on their own

    Votes: 6 8.6%
  • Palestinians Land matters are not UAE'S item to discuss

    Votes: 6 8.6%
  • Un Employment is bigger issue then UAE-Israel deal

    Votes: 6 8.6%
  • Beirut Bombings have something to do with this sudden decision

    Votes: 4 5.7%
  • Things would have been better with closer ties with Turkey

    Votes: 8 11.4%
  • Palestine is not top priority , dealing with Iran is Top Priority

    Votes: 6 8.6%

  • Total voters
    70
  • Poll closed .

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Does it helps Palestinian cause and Arab Unity or counter productive?
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Would be nice to see what Arab Members feel

Multiple answers can be selected folks
 
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Well same could be said that the move is against Turkish Sovereignty
Specially with the development in Beirut

The destruction of port at Beirut , and escalation of economic destruction in Beirut appears quite a prominent development which people are not looking deeply as a strategic move to create chaos in region

  • The creation of PKK faction in Parts of Syria
  • Now escalation of crisis between Egypt-Turkey
  • On going Refugee crisis in Syria
  • More - economic and people suffering in Beirut

All appear to be a very calculated move

Images from Syria , a Syrian boy with Turkish flag
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UAE must have been pressurized by the Indians.
 
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My emotional reaction is that UAE betrayed the Palestinians however the logical side of me knows there was no other option for the Arab world but to offer recognition in exchange for some minor concessions from the Israeli's...so UAE probably did the right thing.
 
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My emotional reaction is that UAE betrayed the Palestinians however the logical side of me knows there was no other option for the Arab world but to offer recognition in exchange for some minor concessions from the Israeli's...so UAE probably did the right thing.
Concession for what and for whom?
And what kind of concessions are you talking about?
Can you clarify..
 
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Concession for what and for whom?
And what kind of concessions are you talking about?
Can you clarify..
Supposedly the Israeli's promised not to annex the west bank. A minor concession as I said. Who knows if they will honor that in the future. With the USA co signing the deal odds are that Israel will not officially annex the West bank.
 
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Supposedly the Israeli's promised not to annex the west bank. A minor concession as I said. Who knows if they will honor that in the future. With the USA co signing the deal odds are that Israel will not officially annex the West bank.
So that seems a positive thing for the Palestinians.. so now we know that there is that concession made by Usrael in order to be recognized by the UAE..So at least that for now..
There might b other concessions by Usrael for other Arab countries that will recognise it officially..
 
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What's clearly now ridiculous in hindsight is that Pakistanis expected these honourless kings to lend any support whatsoever over Kashmir. UAE just pissed all over the supposed central unifying cause of the Arab world itself and made a laughing stock of themselves. These kings would sell their own mother to spite the Iranians or the Turks or whichever other non-white nation they suddenly can't tolerate being better than they are.

Here's the thing - GCC quite simply suffers from the same inferiority complex that our Indian chums to the east have had to undergo therapy for for the whole of eternity. Arab leaders live under some delusion that whites and Israelis are allowed to dominate them but the minute Persians or Turks dare to contemplate such heresy, the Arab world will literally sell its own mother to make sure that doesn't happen. This panic in the ranks to thwart Turkey and Iran is truly phenomenal. Where was this level of drama over fellow Arabs being butchered by whites and Israelis for the last 50 years?

What's the problem guys? For decades, Americans and Israelis took turns pissing on you and you happily let it continue while even grabbing your own ankles for extra brownie points. Yet we've all heard how uppity you get if Persians or Turks dare to piss on you - "cut the head off the sassanid snake" and all that wikileaks shite. I'm afraid Arab kings and elites suffer from irreversible colonial-worship.

The way I see it, Pakistan has made two mistakes over the course of the last 20 years.

1. Pakistan should have recognised Israel a decade ago as Pakistan had no need to ever antagonise them.

2. Pakistan should have dumped the Arab world at the same time.
 
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So that seems a positive thing for the Palestinians.. so now we know that there is that concession made by Usrael in order to be recognized by the UAE..So at least that for now..
There might b other concessions by Usrael for other Arab countries that will recognise it officially..
Yes. If the Israeli's reduce apartheid status of the Palestinians and USA offers dollar debt amnesty then I think Pakistan should recognize Israel as well. The right wing will go nuts in Pakistan but logically it the best for all parties.
 
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Yes. If the Israeli's reduce apartheid status of the Palestinians and USA offers dollar debt amnesty then I think Pakistan should recognize Israel as well. The right wing will go nuts in Pakistan but logically it the best for all parties.
It is not time for Pakistan and other big Muslim nations to recognize Usrael.. that will be reserved to the concession of Al Aqsa (Al Qods).. Now step by step.. first concessions to the Arab states who will recognise Usrael up to implementing the two states solution, enforcing it and having it work well..
 
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We need to understand that UAE made this decision ONLY due to the fact that there are New Geopolitical Blocks of countries emerging, and in one of these Blocks, UAE, Israel, Saudis, etc are allies with US and West. Hence they have to recognize each other as they are Allies. This also means that OIC is DEAD as there will be many Muslims countries in the opposite Block led by China, Russia and others.
 
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We need to understand that UAE made this decision ONLY due to the fact that there are New Geopolitical Blocks of countries emerging, and in one of these Blocks, UAE, Israel, Saudis, etc are allies with US and West. Hence they have to recognize each other as they are Allies. This also means that OIC is DEAD as there will be many Muslims countries in the opposite Block led by China, Russia and others.
Your sensationalizing. The dollar is in trouble and China is GCC's biggest customer. I'm not 100% sure that KSA will oppose a China block like they did the Soviets. Its best for KSA and the GCC to hedge and not be completely in USA camp. That's the most logical option for them. OIC could be an economic behemoth in its own right if handled correctly.
 
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Uae/Saudi and small gulf States never opposed Israel in the first place, if people believe Usa protected these states despite them being anti Israeli then they are naive. The only thing which changed is they have decided to openly recognise Israel and this will benefit Israel mostly and they will become more powerful in the region, or more like a super power in the middleast.

The Pakistani position should be to stay neutral because if the powerful Arab states are giving land to Israel then what can Pakistan do about it? we shouldn't be like Iran and give empty threats because at the end of the day Arab states will stick with Israel/usa rather than us or Iran/Turkey.

The kashmir issue is different because we don't accept Indian rule, if tomorrow Pakistan decides to give Kashmir to India then what can the Muslim states do about it? Nothing I would say

One point I would say is that although I consider Palestine issue as a Muslim ummah issue but when your own ummah is willing to give the land away then you have no choice but to stay out of it
 
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