Panama Case - Post Verdict Discussion and Updates

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[PakSword]

@Arsalan @Zibago @PakSword @Farah Sohail @The Accountant @QatariPrince @django @El_Swordsmen @newb3e @Path-Finder and fellow posters on this thread. Sorry for a little off topic in advance.

This was posted in another thread in response to Aamir Liaqats inclusion in PTI. Let me admit that my initial reaction after hearing it was completely opposite of the following analysis from a POV that why IK must have agreed on the matter.

Imran Khan, it seemed, had literally wasted his 20+ years learning Pakistani politics until the Senate Chairman elections. Some like me must have thought that such master stroke politics is unlike the straight forward political demeanour we usually associated with IK but this recent move is even beyond his master stroke in Senate Chairman election as it was done despite a lot of resistance from within the party.

First of all and in short, I HATE AAMIR LIAQAT so no love lost there, lol.

All those who think that this is an entirely Karachi specific move to include Aamir are welcome to defend and promote the thought without any challenge from myself.

I am contend with the temporary deathly silence of two PUNJAB specific foes of IK among the rest of his political foes who stand stumped by this move and may laugh it away till they grasp its purpose later in the game.

Are you guys there yet?

There is no doubt that this move is election specific and apart from being able to lend a helping hand in Karachi or not but is certainly going to help generate a rear guard media based narrative against the free falling fatwas expected in election politics by Molvi Gali and his band of bad mouth molvis to which Bakvas Sharif shall have no answer but IK must be hoping that he shall be well equipped to surf such high waves with his counter narrative against zealots in the election campaign politics like a pro.

As a side note, remember that apart from Isb and Lhr dharnas, there was a sizeabledharna by TLYR in Khi also.

Besides the above, Aamir Liaqat is a master of character assassination that was the sole prowess of PMLN without an appropriate counter from PTI. Just looking at the mediocre response against Reham and Gulalai with the likes of Hanif Abbasi doing their dallali until Gulalai turned on Nawaz. Guess who's book is releasing soon...

IK has just turned an aggressive voice against himself into a temporary ally to breath down his opponents necks...and All sorts of opponents too. Just like he used the crook Zardari's lot to defeat the other crooks Senate Chairman candidate.

Imran Khan has come of age in Pakistan's Politics. All those who criticized IK for not knowing the basics of Pakistani politics stand stumped. The cry babies need no where else to look but their own leaders GEREBAN first.

I am sure that soon the likes of Salman Ahmed shall realize that it's only a political move and for all intended purposes, temporary still due to the nature of Aamir Liaqat himself.

@Realistic Change I would love to hear from you on the above. Apart from criticising PTI 's policy, whether I like the way it's done or not but I do commend IK's good political moves too.

Actually, had there been any other alternative, I would have decided to vote for that party after this Amir Liaquat fiasco.. I so hate this guy.

Your analysis looks good, but I fear that he may prove to be a male version of Reham Khan.

As for your saying that IK has learnt politics.. I agree. Pakistan is no UK where people are mature enough to differentiate between good and bad.. IK has learnt it after 20 years of struggle. Bherr bakri type awam ko aisi hi politics suit karti hai..

Now either IK grabs power through traditional Pakistani politics and then try to work on education, healthcare and other basic necessities, or resign from the politics and leave Pakistan on the mercy of PPPP and PMLN.

All of us should understand this, that if IK is sticking to some corrupt, or traditional powerful politicians, there is a reason to it.

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Iss ki dimaghi halat theek nahi hai bhaayo..

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Now as much as I like CJ, this is not acceptable.. This is called selective justice.. What Dr. Shahid did was wrong.. and he should be punished according to law.. but what Nawaz and his daughter are doing everyday, our dear Supreme Court is not taking action against it..

Isay kehtay hain kamzor par zor, taqatwar ko chhorr

 

[Verve]

PTI heavyweights in Karachi failed miserably so IK has brought in someone who can pull the voters, good or bad time will decide but this is result of PTI people failure in Karachi.

 

[Shane]

Your analysis looks good, but I fear that he may prove to be a male version of Reham Khan.

He actually is and so he has his uses in the current scenario, temporarily and at least till after the elections ... His own actions shall decide his fate afterwards and Mark my words:

He will leave PTI and go back to his old ways and pals saying that, "I had said that I shall be in this party till death, now PTIs soul is dead so I can go back home exactly as I stated in my joining presser". lol.

But still his usefulness is only due to the absence of a guy in PTI who excels at Character Assassination just like PMLN has mastered the (f) art over the years and the new entry molvi gali and the ever opportunistic fleaser sisters as in gulalai and Reham.

As for your saying that IK has learnt politics.. I agree. Pakistan is no UK where people are mature enough to differentiate between good and bad.. IK has learnt it after 20 years of struggle. Bherr bakri type awam ko aisi hi politics suit karti hai..

Now either IK grabs power through traditional Pakistani politics and then try to work on education, healthcare and other basic necessities, or resign from the politics and leave Pakistan on the mercy of PPPP and PMLN.

All of us should understand this, that if IK is sticking to some corrupt, or traditional powerful politicians, there is a reason to it.

You literally took the words out of my follow up post, lol. 100% agreed and exactly the point of my original post.

Iss ki dimaghi halat theek nahi hai bhaayo..

Now as much as I like CJ, this is not acceptable.. This is called selective justice.. What Dr. Shahid did was wrong.. and he should be punished according to law.. but what Nawaz and his daughter are doing everyday, our dear Supreme Court is not taking action against it..

Isay kehtay hain kamzor par zor, taqatwar ko chhorr

It is a bit harsh, more so due to inaction and restraint on Bakvas Sharif and daughter but apparently, there is some hikmat involved that all we can do is wait and hope for it to be disclosed.

Dr.Shahid is responsible for his own actions, no less than acting like an over enthusiastic Tarzan but forgot to put on his loin cloth while shouting his cheer. The poor Dr. stands exposed due to no fault of any other.

 

[Shane]

Iss ki dimaghi halat theek nahi hai bhaayo..

Like you said, he has gone bonkers. The consequence of going rabid I guess:

 

[PakSword]

Like you said, he has gone bonkers. The consequence of going rabid I guess:

Definitely he is suffering from some kind of mental illness.

Dr.Shahid is responsible for his own actions, no less than acting like an over enthusiastic Tarzan but forgot to put on his loin cloth while shouting his cheer. The poor Dr. stands exposed due to no fault of any other.

Well you are right.. That's why I said that Dr. Shahid should be punished.. but it creates a sense of failed justice when a courts gives harsh remarks to an anchor who has not even done contempt of court.. but keeps quite when a powerful person does it almost everyday... Shahid Masood's program is banned for three months.. but Maryam and her father's speeches are not banned even for a day..

You know I don't like Shahid Masood.. he is such a character... he does character assassination of anyone he likes... but SC shouldn't apply justice selectively.. this is my standpoint.. Court should at least ban the speeches.. just like Shahid;s program has been banned.

 

[Shane]

Definitely he is suffering from some kind of mental illness.


Well you are right.. That's why I said that Dr. Shahid should be punished.. but it creates a sense of failed justice when a courts gives harsh remarks to an anchor who has not even done contempt of court.. but keeps quite when a powerful person does it almost everyday... Shahid Masood's program is banned for three months.. but Maryam and her father's speeches are not banned even for a day..

You know I don't like Shahid Masood.. he is such a character... he does character assassination of anyone he likes... but SC shouldn't apply justice selectively.. this is my standpoint.. Court should at least ban the speeches.. just like Shahid;s program has been banned.

You are right. Looking at three month ban on one lowly contempt vs daily ridicule, incitement and calls for rebellion stand totally ignored for now and the culprits are free to not only roam around but continue to gather support against state institutions and comit unprecedented contempt of court.

I have been posting about the need for an immediate media ban on the chor tubber since months.

They should have been the one being slapped with a blanket media ban long ago and the HIKMAT of actual AND DESERVING PUNISHMENT could have been handed as and when the Hikmat allowed.

Is the dr banned on any tv appearance in any capacity or just hosting his show?

If he is allowed to participate as guest then the good dr can do a great service to this nation yet.

He should ask the same question Vs Bakvas Sharifs and Maryam Bakvas's powerful and continuous contempt and lack of media ban on them.

He should demand for equal justice and for a media ban on the powerful politician and Daughter until the Hikmat of SCP allows appropriate and due punishment for their contempt as and when the Hikmat allows.

Meanwhile, Dr.Shahids should raise his appropriate version of MUJHAY KYUN NIKALA along the lines of...
AIK KAMZOR PAY KYUN BAN DALA

 

[PakSword]

Is the dr banned on any tv appearance in any capacity or just hosting his show?

No idea.

 

[newb3e]

PTI heavyweights in Karachi failed miserably so IK has brought in someone who can pull the voters, good or bad time will decide but this is result of PTI people failure in Karachi.

i am not sure anyone in khi wikl vote for this maihla!

 

[rashid.sarwar]

Badmashai won today,

Dr. banned for three months.

Dollar fell 4.99 rs

Ya bik gayee hay gorment......

 

[newb3e]

@Arsalan @Zibago @PakSword @Farah Sohail @The Accountant @QatariPrince @django @El_Swordsmen @newb3e @Path-Finder and fellow posters on this thread. Sorry for a little off topic in advance.

This was posted in another thread in response to Aamir Liaqats inclusion in PTI. Let me admit that my initial reaction after hearing it was completely opposite of the following analysis from a POV that why IK must have agreed on the matter.

Imran Khan, it seemed, had literally wasted his 20+ years learning Pakistani politics until the Senate Chairman elections. Some like me must have thought that such master stroke politics is unlike the straight forward political demeanour we usually associated with IK but this recent move is even beyond his master stroke in Senate Chairman election as it was done despite a lot of resistance from within the party.

First of all and in short, I HATE AAMIR LIAQAT so no love lost there, lol.

All those who think that this is an entirely Karachi specific move to include Aamir are welcome to defend and promote the thought without any challenge from myself.

I am contend with the temporary deathly silence of two PUNJAB specific foes of IK among the rest of his political foes who stand stumped by this move and may laugh it away till they grasp its purpose later in the game.

Are you guys there yet?

There is no doubt that this move is election specific and apart from being able to lend a helping hand in Karachi or not but is certainly going to help generate a rear guard media based narrative against the free falling fatwas expected in election politics by Molvi Gali and his band of bad mouth molvis to which Bakvas Sharif shall have no answer but IK must be hoping that he shall be well equipped to surf such high waves with his counter narrative against zealots in the election campaign politics like a pro.

As a side note, remember that apart from Isb and Lhr dharnas, there was a sizeabledharna by TLYR in Khi also.

Besides the above, Aamir Liaqat is a master of character assassination that was the sole prowess of PMLN without an appropriate counter from PTI. Just looking at the mediocre response against Reham and Gulalai with the likes of Hanif Abbasi doing their dallali until Gulalai turned on Nawaz. Guess who's book is releasing soon...

IK has just turned an aggressive voice against himself into a temporary ally to breath down his opponents necks...and All sorts of opponents too. Just like he used the crook Zardari's lot to defeat the other crooks Senate Chairman candidate.

Imran Khan has come of age in Pakistan's Politics. All those who criticized IK for not knowing the basics of Pakistani politics stand stumped. The cry babies need no where else to look but their own leaders GEREBAN first.

I am sure that soon the likes of Salman Ahmed shall realize that it's only a political move and for all intended purposes, temporary still due to the nature of Aamir Liaqat himself.

@Realistic Change I would love to hear from you on the above. Apart from criticising PTI 's policy, whether I like the way it's done or not but I do commend IK's good political moves too.

genius or not but is this what pti supporters or voters want! painting turd into some fancy color wont change its characteristics! its a genius move because pti is getting electibles and it will make path to Imrans fantasy ie PM chairs reality! even if it how will it bring Tabdeli(Change) how do we expect someone who has been corrupt and abusing system all his life to become a saint all of a sudden? okay Pks politics is dirty and these electables are required to win vote but where is that claim of Ibadaad now! or was becoming PM always IKs aim and not actually fight the system and change it? liaquit hussain or IK sleeping in bed with zardari fot senate chairman shows how greedy and hypocrite IK is!!

after sitting on this throne of righteousness blabbering bs about everyone he is shaking hand with Zardari and bringing liaquid hussain into the team shows that he just want to become PM to come into power just like Zardari or Shareef! he is as corrupt as hypocrite as greedy as these bastards!!

he could have kept fighting like Amm Admi party from India that guy fought for years but never allowed those old swines those corrupt electables to join his party he dint dint care about power he cared about people and eventually he won!!

 

[mosu]

 

[Shane]

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Don't tell me yar...how, why? What happened exactly?

 

[mosu]

Don't know sir
I sent him msg on Twitter that we miss you on fourm and sir realistic replied that

 

[Syed1.]

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That's unfortunate I only used to visit this thread to read @Realistic Change's "inside" news