Palestine ‘cutting all ties’ with US and Israel over Trump’s ‘deal of the century – Abbas

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I am not mocking that. I am just trying to say that Hamas is just a milder form of Taliban. Would you say that the Taliban has any idea on how to govern Afghanistan in the near-future and work for its progress ?? Same is the case with Hamas.

Taliban is the only legitimate government of Afghanistan. The invasion and all subsequent actions taken by US and allies were totally pointless.

Similarly, Gaza is the only part of Palestine which have not become enclaves surrounded by further Israeli settlement and theft.

So Hamas must be doing something correct compared to Fatah.

 

[khansaheeb]

Palestianian land compressing so fast. Either they do deal or not. They have no choice but land will continue to decrease unless they all become stateless or cease to exit

They will land their land back one day, inshallah.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

They will land their land back one day, inshallah.

It is always darkest before the first light.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Just as in India? Why are you mocking praying in mosques? And throwing stones from the rape capital of the world?.. give me a fuckin break.

Why should Palestinians capitulate? Only solution is the two state solution. Israel is not a democratic nation and never will be. It is a theocracy and does not have a democratic constitution. They use the tanak and Talmud as their constitution. If you read something other than Atheist ideology you would realize that..

Proponents of the one state solution will permanently create an apartheid state within sham with the yahoods being on one side and the Arabs being on the other. The yahoods do not consider anyone but themselves as human beings.

Only a stupid Indian like you would suggest that while you drink your Hindu cola.

The @jamahir guy seems to be a dumb guy who has no clue of what he is talking about.

 

[jamahir]

The @jamahir guy seems to be a dumb guy who has no clue of what he is talking about.

What is your objection to what I said ??

 

[M.Bison]

How will that work in practical terms ??

It is very simple. It will give the Palestinians a state and a state to the Jews. It is very simple. Practically it will reduce tensions on both sides and end the European occupation of Palestine. Impractical is giving what you propose. A one state solution is the legitimization of an apartheid state and the end of an identity that is centuries old.

It wasn't me who proposed the One State Solution. It was Gaddafi. Surely you can give him some credit for thinking out of the box.

And why do you think it will be an apartheid state ?? The basis of the OSS will be democracy and Socialism like it was in the Libyan Jamahiriya until 2011. The PLO is already that.

The OSS just calls for the Jews, the Muslims and the Christians to be equal partners.

Are you high? what are you even talking about... Palestine did not elect Qaddafi what does Libya have to do with the byatul maqdas? The Palestinians do not want one state solution who are you or Qaddafi to force them to accept that?

Israel is not a democracy and I have explained that in the other post..

I am not mocking that. I am just trying to say that Hamas is just a milder form of Taliban. Would you say that the Taliban has any idea on how to govern Afghanistan in the near-future and work for its progress ?? Same is the case with Hamas.

You are mocking them "Hamas is nothing but a bunch of mullahs who are satisfied with praying in mosques and unfree women." As an Indian you should not talk about religious extremism and unfree woman. The rape capital of the world.
The Taliban and Hamas are a product of the times. They are produced from decades of occupation by foreigners. Either way, the people in Afghanistan and Palestine have elected these political forces respectively. For you to write them off just highlights your stupidity.

 

[jamahir]

It is very simple. It will give the Palestinians a state and a state to the Jews. It is very simple. Practically it will reduce tensions on both sides and end the European occupation of Palestine. Impractical is giving what you propose. A one state solution is the legitimization of an apartheid state and the end of an identity that is centuries old.

What about the illegal Israeli / Jewish settlements in West Bank ??

Are you high? what are you even talking about... Palestine did not elect Qaddafi what does Libya have to do with the byatul maqdas? The Palestinians do not want one state solution who are you or Qaddafi to force them to accept that?

The Jamahiriya theory or the Third Universal Theory, which governed Libya until 2011, can be applied to any society in the world. It is nothing but Direct Democracy Socialism.

Either way, the people in Afghanistan and Palestine have elected these political forces respectively. For you to write them off just highlights your stupidity.

If some Palestinians have elected Hamas, some of them has also elected the PLO.

If some Afghans support the Taliban, some Afghans also support the Solidarity Party of Afghanistan ( SPA ) which is a Socialist movement of a few tens of thousands of members. During the Socialist government of the 80s an Afghan went to space and stayed in a Soviet space station. What has the Taliban achieved except for closing barber shops, music shops, putting burqa etc ??

Below are the party objectives of the SPA :

Party Objectives: A united, independent, free and democratic Afghanistan; National unity on the basis of an established, consolidated, secular-based democracy; Equality among women and men, and all ethnic groups in the country; Struggle against all brands of fundamentalism, reactionary forces and foreign interference; Immediate withdrawal of US-NATO occupation forces from Afghanistan; Defending the emancipatory and progressive struggles of captive nations of the world.

 

[M.Bison]

What about the illegal Israeli / Jewish settlements in West Bank ??



The Jamahiriya theory or the Third Universal Theory, which governed Libya until 2011, can be applied to any society in the world. It is nothing but Direct Democracy Socialism.



If some Palestinians have elected Hamas, some of them has also elected the PLO.

If some Afghans support the Taliban, some Afghans also support the Solidarity Party of Afghanistan ( SPA ) which is a Socialist movement of a few tens of thousands of members. During the Socialist government of the 80s an Afghan went to space and stayed in a Soviet space station. What has the Taliban achieved except for closing barber shops, music shops, putting burqa etc ??

Below are the party objectives of the SPA :

The Taliban achieved more in 10 years than you or any Indian could for 1000 years.

For you to compare a major public mandate with a few thousand is just immature..

 

[Aurengzeb Alamgir]

How is the mullah group, Hamas, a legitimate government ?? Hamas came to power in Gaza in 2007 with the help of the Western governments.

source?

 

[Yankee-stani]

source?

Hamas has been mixed bag then again the spilt in the Palestinian movement occured in the late 1980s but I see both at fault their infighting caused the Israelis to wait decades for them weaker but Hamas at least fights back

 

[jamahir]

The Taliban achieved more in 10 years than you or any Indian could for 1000 years.

And what has the Taliban achieved other than shutting down barber shops, closing schools form women etc ??

In the 80s, during the Socialist government, an Afghan went to space aboard an USSR rocket. What happened now ??

And why are you going on and on about India ??

For you to compare a major public mandate with a few thousand is just immature..

Every revolutionary movement is minority at one point of time. Even Islam.

source?

I can't find the source now but basically when Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 it left the governance in the hands of the PLO. There began a war between Hamas and PLO. In 2007, the Western governments accused the PLO of corruption and created an atmosphere in which the Hamas came to power.

 

[M.Bison]

And what has the Taliban achieved other than shutting down barber shops, closing schools form women etc ??

In the 80s, during the Socialist government, an Afghan went to space aboard an USSR rocket. What happened now ??

And why are you going on and on about India ??

The Taliban has stopped to world empires from trying to colonize their country. That is their achievement. India has been a colony since day one. That was the comparison.

Every revolutionary movement is minority at one point of time. Even Islam.

Islam was not a revolution... Islam and monotheism has been around since the beginning of mankind. Islam does not claim to to be a new religion. It is THE religion. You claim to be a Muslim right? What was Adam (PBUH)? were Ibrahim, Esa and Musa not Muslim?

At one hand you mock Islam and Muslims and another you use is as an example to further your point.

Either way, Your attempts to de-legitimize elected governments is immature and that is the problem right now. In Afghanistan and Palestine, the common people do not want the governments that are being shoved in front of them. The lay person is not being considered. So the issue won't be resolved.

 

[jamahir]

The Taliban has stopped to world empires from trying to colonize their country. That is their achievement.

Like al-Qaeda, the Taliban was the creation of CIA and ISI.

Until 2001, the US government had no problems with the Taliban until the point that Osama bin Laden was given refuge by the Taliban and the Taliban refused to give him up to the Americans. So before that, no problems.

India has been a colony since day one. That was the comparison.

And what does that mean in simple terms ??

 

[Ansu fati]

Abbas is a joke that shouldn’t be taken seriously when he talks about palestine I remember he cried when israeli PM or president died some years ago
I wonder palestinians how they allowed him to continue as president after such humiliation

 

[M.Bison]

Like al-Qaeda, the Taliban was the creation of CIA and ISI.

Until 2001, the US government had no problems with the Taliban until the point that Osama bin Laden was given refuge by the Taliban and the Taliban refused to give him up to the Americans. So before that, no problems.

Since when did you shit skins start talking about CIA and US governemnt. Whatever the reason, the taliban beat your daddy then and they are beating you and your daddy now. So stfu about it.

And what does that mean in simple terms ??

Its all there.. just look at the statement. Its not a vedic statement just read it.