@PakSword reply to your question. Pls delete after reading it.

[Nityam]

@PakSword

This is what we are trying to understand.

What kind of people come online and celebrate death of civilian men, women and children even if they belong to an enemy nation?

It is the same emotion that runs a breaking on your prominent news channel that "Pakistan abb marega Corona ki Maut".

I can understand that you can't be ashamed of such inhumane emotions of your countrymen. Of course, those who are running naked online belong to your mahaan country and are gentlemen of the highest order.

You asked me this questions and banned me from the thread.

How am I supposed to reply ?

Maybe those men and women have somebody dead in their family due to terrorism. Civilians who are dead due to Ajmal Kasab and Dawood Ibrahim and gang.

So now you know WHO created those posters and WHY they posted what they did. Just one possible answer.

Now do I feel ashamed of them expressing their emotion ? No. their hate is perfectly understandable towards the people who did nothing while their establishment killed their civilian relatives in India.

 

[Spy Master]

@PakSword

You asked me this questions and banned me from the thread.

How am I supposed to reply ?

Maybe those men and women have somebody dead in their family due to terrorism. Civilians who are dead due to Ajmal Kasab and Dawood Ibrahim and gang.

So now you know WHO created those posters and WHY they posted what they did. Just one possible answer.

Now do I feel ashamed of them expressing their emotion ? No. their hate is perfectly understandable towards the people who did nothing while their establishment killed their civilian relatives in India.

What a stupid reply. By that definition, why don't you accept the reality of Kashmiri freedom fighters then? You rape their women, kill their sons, burn their homes, do you feel the same kind of moral values then? As a matter of fact, you supported terrorism in Pakistan since last 2 decades, how about feeling ashamed for that?

 

[PakSword]

@PakSword

You asked me this questions and banned me from the thread.

How am I supposed to reply ?

Maybe those men and women have somebody dead in their family due to terrorism. Civilians who are dead due to Ajmal Kasab and Dawood Ibrahim and gang.

So now you know WHO created those posters and WHY they posted what they did. Just one possible answer.

Now do I feel ashamed of them expressing their emotion ? No. their hate is perfectly understandable towards the people who did nothing while their establishment killed their civilian relatives in India.

Don't think so.

When few terrorists blew up twin towers, I didn't see the kind of reaction from Americans whenever any tragedy hit arabs.

And Pakistan's involvement in Mumbai is still questionable. Anyway, I am not debating that.

If your army attacks AJK and kills innocent Kashmiris, even then I don't expect Pakistanis to celebrate an Indian civilian plane crash ever. This is the difference in thinking.

Also, I haven't banned you from that thread.

 

[Nityam]

What a stupid reply. By that definition, why don't you accept the reality of Kashmiri freedom fighters then? You rape their women, kill their sons, burn their homes, do you feel the same kind of moral values then? As a matter of fact, you supported terrorism in Pakistan since last 2 decades, how about feeling ashamed for that?

This kind of silly propaganda does not even deserve any response.

Don't think so.

When few terrorists blew up twin towers, I didn't see the kind of reaction from Americans whenever any tragedy hit arabs.

And Pakistan's involvement in Mumbai is still questionable. Anyway, I am not debating that.

If your army attacks AJK and kills innocent Kashmiris, even then I don't expect Pakistanis to celebrate an Indian civilian plane crash ever. This is the difference in thinking.

Also, I haven't banned you from that thread.

India is not the US.

But the US DID attack Iraq and Afghanistan after that tragedy. If that was not an expression of their anger, I don't know what was.

You are free to question Pakistanis involvement in Mumbai. but NO INDIAN Questions it and that is what matters.

No civilian govt. in INdia will give our army the right to kill innocent kashmiris. SO your assumption is moot.

Also I have no idea who has banned me from that thread, Someone did and I assumed it was you.

 

[Trango Towers]

@PakSword

You asked me this questions and banned me from the thread.

How am I supposed to reply ?

Maybe those men and women have somebody dead in their family due to terrorism. Civilians who are dead due to Ajmal Kasab and Dawood Ibrahim and gang.

So now you know WHO created those posters and WHY they posted what they did. Just one possible answer.

Now do I feel ashamed of them expressing their emotion ? No. their hate is perfectly understandable towards the people who did nothing while their establishment killed their civilian relatives in India.

Oh please stop talking bs. RSS mofos all have someone killed by the indian khusab. Your explanation is pathetic and you are going to come back in your next life as a cockroach instead of the rat you are now .

 

[PakSword]

This kind of silly propaganda does not even deserve any response.

OK, lets consider it a propaganda and we are brainwashed and that's why we consider Kashmiri freedom struggle a war. Still we can justify your soldiers killing at the hands of Kashmiris fighters and you can justify and even celebrate Kashmiri fighters deaths. We celebrate deaths of Baloch freedom fighters who are fighting with Pakistani army. You guys celebrate killing of our soldiers and I don't have any problem with that.

Answer me now, what kind of people celebrate death of civilians in a plane crash.

 

[Nityam]

Answer me now, what kind of people celebrate death of civilians in a plane crash.

Din't I just answer that questions ?

People who have lost their loved ones due to what they believe is pakistani sponsored terrorism. They hold ALL of pakistan responsible for that tragedy. Including your civilians.

Which is why the GoI has banned even civilian trade and exchange of citizens. We hold ALL pakistanis responsible for the deaths. Not just the establishment.

 

[PakSword]

India is not the US.

But the US DID attack Iraq and Afghanistan after that tragedy. If that was not an expression of their anger, I don't know what was.

You are free to question Pakistanis involvement in Mumbai. but NO INDIAN Questions it and that is what matters.

No civilian govt. in INdia will give our army the right to kill innocent kashmiris. SO your assumption is moot.

Also I have no idea who has banned me from that thread, Someone did and I assumed it was you.

US attacked Afghanistan, fine with us. It was a war.

But will you ever see anyone coming online and start celebrating Afghans dying in a plane crash?

Let me tell you, if and when your airliner crashes.. despite all the differences we have with you, I will never celebrate it. However, I will be happy if your army gets killed in an accident, and I will not question you feeling the same about my army..

But civilians?? I mean come on man!

 

[Nityam]

That is just One possible explanations. There could be other reasons. But all of them have their reasons. Or you have to believe all of them are insane. I suppose that is easier.

US attacked Afghanistan, fine with us. It was a war.

But will you ever see anyone coming online and start celebrating Afghans dying in a plane crash?

Let me tell you, if and when your airliner crashes.. despite all the differences we have with you, I will never celebrate it. However, I will be happy if your army gets killed in an accident, and I will not question you feeling the same about my army..

But civilians?? I mean come on man!

You just do not have enough reasons to hate us. Those people do.

That is the Only difference.

Do you honestly think the vast majority of Indians consider the Pakistani civilians as "Victims" of the establishment ? Most Indians see Pakistani civilians as ENABLERS of your Establishment.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

If your army attacks AJK and kills innocent Kashmiris, even then I don't expect Pakistanis to celebrate an Indian civilian plane crash ever. This is the difference in thinking.

This is the bottom line that seems out of reach of these evolutionary accidents.

 

[PakSword]

You just do not have enough reasons to hate us. Those people do.

That is the Only difference.

Do you honestly think the vast majority of Indians consider the Pakistani civilians as "Victims" of the establishment ? Most Indians see Pakistani civilians as ENABLERS of your Establishment.

What? We don't have enough reasons to despise Indian army or politicians? Are your high on something?

There's a long ceasefire line between India and Pakistan and Kashmiris are struggling to get their freedom from you.. and they are being killed mercilessly. Even then you will not see us celebrating civilian deaths in case a plane crashes.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Din't I just answer that questions ?

People who have lost their loved ones due to what they believe is pakistani sponsored terrorism. They hold ALL of pakistan responsible for that tragedy. Including your civilians.

Which is why the GoI has banned even civilian trade and exchange of citizens. We hold ALL pakistanis responsible for the deaths. Not just the establishment.

That is some fucked up reasoning I have ever heard.

 

[Nityam]

What? We don't have enough reasons to despite Indian army or politicians? Are your high on something?

There's a long ceasefire line between India and Pakistan and Kashmiris are struggling to get their freedom from you.. and they are being killed mercilessly. Even then you will not see us celebrating civilian deaths in case a plane crashes.

The reality is that kashmiri is as free as any other Indian as long as they can give up their islamic supremacist ideology and can accept Hindus as equal citizens with equal rights and respect their own Hindu past and culture includig their language.

They live under the same constitutions as any other Indian , that provides them the same freedom as any other Indian.

So no one in India buys into their "victim hood' narrative. Most see them as PERPETRATORS of Hate and hate-crime like stone pelting, terrorism, ethic cleansing etc.

So you really have NO reason to "hate us. Truth be told and YOU KNOW IT. Only you cant ADMIT IT or you lose the Narrative. You know it and we know it.

They day we start killing civilians in Pakistan by sponsoring terror in Pakistan, is the day you start cheering when our civilians die.

So its pointless the draw false equivalence like I keep saying.

 

[PakSword]

I have to agree some new mods @BHarwana and a couple of other mods etc etc are banning people are after people on threads to fulfill there own agendas. Thread Ban has become so common here, even on our own forum. People will start leaving the forum.

please take some action.

@WebMaster @Horus @Slav Defence @waz @Moonlight @TaimiKhan @Socra @PakSword @The Eagle [USER=17941]@krash @AgNoStiC MuSliM[/USER]

I was given a thread ban for asking Air Marshal Malik to come forward which he just did now and give a press conference not just now but also for past air crashes 2010, 2012, 2016 and no inquiry reports were made public, I am trying to bring honesty and defence.pk pressure to fulfill public duty by PIA and Civil Aviation authority to be answerable to public, must rest and reject all past conspiracies which occurred in those days as well this incident on below thread.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pia-...with-93-on-board.667671/page-30#post-12353784

You can open a case in GHQ.

I don't know who banned you from that thread.

 

[Nityam]

That is some fucked up reasoning I have ever heard.

Are you not aware that GoI has stopped issuing visas to Pakistanis except in case of medical emergencies ?