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Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

Which rifle should win the competition?

  • FN-SCAR-H

    Votes: 241 42.9%
  • Beretta ARX-200

    Votes: 62 11.0%
  • CZ-806 Bren2

    Votes: 116 20.6%
  • Kalashnikov AK-103

    Votes: 127 22.6%
  • Zavasta M21

    Votes: 17 3.0%

  • Total voters
    562
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A country in which we waste thousands of rounds of bullets in wedding reception as celebration I am surprised there is not a private owned ordinance factory. I hope in upcoming years situation improves. Would love it if one of our esteemed Defense.pk members starts it.
We waste millions of rounds....in a single event we waste thousands.
Lots of individuals make bullets them self.....to be more precise fill the casings them selves.
But the problems with dasi bullets is the number of grains in a bullet, which no one knows n differ from round to round.


 
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We waste millions of rounds....in a single event we waste thousands.
Lots of individuals make bullets them self.....to be more precise fill the casings them selves.
But the problems with dasi bullets is the number of grains in a bullet, which no one knows n differ from round to round.


You see gun culture is pretty good but the guns are not.
 
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I do not understand what you are trying to do. There is an endless mess here. The tender has not been finalized and you still need a family of modern infantry weapons.

The smartest thing you can do is to establish a joint R&D center with us Turks and contribute money and brainpower to perfect the weapons that we have developed and have not perfected yet.

OK, the MPT-76 may not have passed the tests, but since then we have continued to refine the gun. Soon it will come fully to the perfection we want. At that time, the development of the weapon family will be completed, and you can only obtain the gun from us under license production.

You will miss the opportunity to learn the subject cheaply and in depth.
 
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I do not understand what you are trying to do. There is an endless mess here. The tender has not been finalized and you still need a family of modern infantry weapons.

The smartest thing you can do is to establish a joint R&D center with us Turks and contribute money and brainpower to perfect the weapons that we have developed and have not perfected yet.

OK, the MPT-76 may not have passed the tests, but since then we have continued to refine the gun. Soon it will come fully to the perfection we want. At that time, the development of the weapon family will be completed, and you can only obtain the gun from us under license production.

You will miss the opportunity to learn the subject cheaply and in depth.
MPT did pass. It's competition with SCAR was neck to neck....
 
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MPT did pass. It's competition with SCAR was neck to neck....
So what's the problem? The MPT-76 has been refined even more since then. We have also developed 5,56 mm caliber rifles (MPT-56) that use the same mechanism.

Either go buy the whole weapon set at a huge discount from Russia, or set up an R&D center with us when you have the opportunity and learn the subject cheaply and in depth.

You have been discussing SCAR rifles for 480 pages in this forum. And still the Pakistan Army needs modern rifles. This problem has not been resolved.
 
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We waste millions of rounds....in a single event we waste thousands.
Lots of individuals make bullets them self.....to be more precise fill the casings them selves.
But the problems with dasi bullets is the number of grains in a bullet, which no one knows n differ from round to round.


A cousin of mine fired a gun at a wedding in celebration, needless to say, my uncle slapped the crap out of him in front of everyone over and over again lol
 
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So what's the problem? The MPT-76 has been refined even more since then. We have also developed 5,56 mm caliber rifles (MPT-56) that use the same mechanism.

Either go buy the whole weapon set at a huge discount from Russia, or set up an R&D center with us when you have the opportunity and learn the subject cheaply and in depth.

You have been discussing SCAR rifles for 480 pages in this forum. And still the Pakistan Army needs modern rifles. This problem has not been resolved.
Because this is a forum that has no relation to the actual military, people can talk here for a thousand pages and it won’t have much effect on the military procurement.
Pakistan can’t just look at a rifle and go “we want this” because they need a massive number of it and the logistics, production and prices of it all need to be considered, among other places where the money is needed. Plus the thread was not all for nothing, if you read through it there’s actually developments about how the procurement project advanced and has been advancing.

Older AKs are already being replaced by newer ones, which is one step already. The G3 replacement will come in time too. We trust the military testers and what they will do and pick.
 
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