Pakistan's Pride, Enemy's Envy

[Windjammer]

They have a Certain pride too Wind jammer

And I think their pride looks AWESOME...… way too superior

And this arrives Next year

SIMPLY ANOTHER LEVEL

You must be saying all this with a wry smile since at the end of the day you must be proud of your performance which is obviously on full display for all to see and admire.

Hi,

Israelis have the results in front of them to be proud of---.

Paf has been a disgrace over the last multiple decades---. No show at Kargil---no show in preventing the Atlantique---no show in protecting Karachi port in a pre-emptive move to protect the naval assets---no show in protecting Saab aircrafts---no show in getting the right aircraft in a timely manner---no show at Longewala---.

So---where is the pride---for some tricks they have when doing training excercizes with other countries---.

You can't explain sunrise to a blind person or rather if a person is adamant to call his mother ugly then it's futile to argue with them
The same PAF destroyed a whole squadron on the ground in Kalikunda, and repeated the same feat at Pathankot.
You remember Longewala but have you ever bother to educate yourself about Mukerian, Okha and Ambala.
But hey when you hold a personal grudge, all this is irrelevant least the fact that apart from Arabs t who fought with Israel, it's only the PAF pilots who repeatedly scored victories against them.

 

[MastanKhan]

You must be saying all this with a wry smile since at the end of the day you must be proud of your performance which is obviously on full display for all to see and admire.

You can't explain sunrise to a blind person or rather if a person is adamant to call his mother ugly then it's futile to argue with them
The same PAF destroyed a whole squadron on the ground in Kalikunda, and repeated the same feat at Pathankot.
You remember Longewala but have you ever bother to educate yourself about Mukerian, Okha and Ambala.
But hey when you hold a personal grudge, all this is irrelevant least the fact that apart from Arabs t who fought with Israel, it's only the PAF pilots who repeatedly scored victories against them.

Hi,

And that was sheer stupidity on the part of the Paf pilots to join a conflict where arabs were losing---.

Why create animosity in a lost cause---. What benefit would that be for Pakistan---the nation---.

Just the egos of Paf pilots were stroked well---. Pakistan has lost in the long run due to those actions---.

Longewala would be a 'fate changing' moment the importance of which was lost due to the arrogance of the Paf's heirarchy---.

 

[Raider 21]

You must be saying all this with a wry smile since at the end of the day you must be proud of your performance which is obviously on full display for all to see and admire.

You can't explain sunrise to a blind person or rather if a person is adamant to call his mother ugly then it's futile to argue with them
The same PAF destroyed a whole squadron on the ground in Kalikunda, and repeated the same feat at Pathankot.
You remember Longewala but have you ever bother to educate yourself about Mukerian, Okha and Ambala.
But hey when you hold a personal grudge, all this is irrelevant least the fact that apart from Arabs t who fought with Israel, it's only the PAF pilots who repeatedly scored victories against them.

I guess you meant PAF pilots who repeatedly scored victories against them without any losses. The Syrians did manage to bag a few Israeli jets....same with Egyptian AF.

Hi,

And that was sheer stupidity on the part of the Paf pilots to join a conflict where arabs were losing---.

Why create animosity in a lost cause---. What benefit would that be for Pakistan---the nation---.

Just the egos of Paf pilots were stroked well---. Pakistan has lost in the long run due to those actions---.

Longewala would be a 'fate changing' moment the importance of which was lost due to the arrogance of the Paf's heirarchy---.

Volunteers. Just like how American and Canadian Jews signed up for IDF/AF during that conflict. Egos stroked well for your satisfaction by description but those individuals were some of the best pilots PAF has ever produced.....

Hi,

Israelis have the results in front of them to be proud of---.

Paf has been a disgrace over the last multiple decades---. No show at Kargil---no show in preventing the Atlantique---no show in protecting Karachi port in a pre-emptive move to protect the naval assets---no show in protecting Saab aircrafts---no show in getting the right aircraft in a timely manner---no show at Longewala---.

So---where is the pride---for some tricks they have when doing training excercizes with other countries---.

Israelis know how to work hard in all aspects....whether good or bad.

Atlantique crew were at fault.

Saab aircraft got repaired domestically at 1/3 the proposed costs by SAAB. There is a special centre at PAC regarding EW in conjunction with SAAB after the domestic repairs were seen on inspection.

 

[litman]

Hi,

And that was sheer stupidity on the part of the Paf pilots to join a conflict where arabs were losing---.

Why create animosity in a lost cause---. What benefit would that be for Pakistan---the nation---.

Just the egos of Paf pilots were stroked well---. Pakistan has lost in the long run due to those actions---.

Longewala would be a 'fate changing' moment the importance of which was lost due to the arrogance of the Paf's heirarchy---.

i wish someday all muslims unite against the aggressors and help and support each other even if they are losing. in Quran it is instructed to fight for those innocent and weak musliims who cant defend themselves against the enemies. so actually those who went to fight against israelis are not stupid stupid are those who call such warriors as stupid. it happened in ghazwa e khandaq when madina was surrounded by the enemies and people were starving the hypocrites and muslims with weaker faith started doing propaganda against the Prophet while those with strong faith stood their ground and then Allah almighty helped them . the apparent worldly gains are nothing.

 

[MastanKhan]

i wish someday all muslims unite against the aggressors and help and support each other even if they are losing. in Quran it is instructed to fight for those innocent and weak musliims who cant defend themselves against the enemies. so actually those who went to fight against israelis are not stupid stupid are those who call such warriors as stupid. it happened in ghazwa e khandaq when madina was surrounded by the enemies and people were starving the hypocrites and muslims with weaker faith started doing propaganda against the Prophet while those with strong faith stood their ground and then Allah almighty helped them . the apparent worldly gains are nothing.

Hi,

There were fools amongst the followers of Prophet Mohammad in Medina---. At one time---they got hold of some weapons---and those fools started raising slogans and started showing off their weapons---.

The Prophet of Allah admonished them and told them to be SECRETIVE of their resources and not to let the enemy know what they have and keep it as a surprise---and bring them out at the time of conflict.

You kids are dumb as molasses---or should I say---sbrainless---. You kids have no clue of strategy---tactics---game planning---.

Neither your teachers teach you anything---nor your elders have any clue---.

You keep uttering " muslims will unite one day "---having no clue that muslims were never united any day in the 1400 years of the history of Islam---.

Tell me---any one of you---give me one century in which muslims were united as one for a whole century---.

I mean to say---there is a limit to idiocy---. You can't create unity for one decision---Kalabagh dam---and you want to unite against israel---.

First of all---how are you going to get to Israel---how are you going to wage a war against Israel---what are you going to do different that Hamas was not able to do---what if the neighbors of israel don't want to fight israel---.

Son---the only thing you can do is gang up on weak and poor pakistani people---for criminal activities---and that is where the muslim brotherhood cherishes---.

I guess you meant PAF pilots who repeatedly scored victories against them without any losses. The Syrians did manage to bag a few Israeli jets....same with Egyptian AF.


Volunteers. Just like how American and Canadian Jews signed up for IDF/AF during that conflict. Egos stroked well for your satisfaction by description but those individuals were some of the best pilots PAF has ever produced.....


Israelis know how to work hard in all aspects....whether good or bad.

Atlantique crew were at fault.

Saab aircraft got repaired domestically at 1/3 the proposed costs by SAAB. There is a special centre at PAC regarding EW in conjunction with SAAB after the domestic repairs were seen on inspection.

Hi,

Indeed canadian and americans came to fight---but what benefit did Pakistan gain---nothing---but to show of and strut---and in the meantime since then---the Israelis may have silently killed thousand of pakistanis indirectly---..

Atlantique crew maybe at fault---but the Paf knew that the enemy air force wants to revenge its downed aircraft---that was a hot zone---. They should have flown an aircraft on their own---.

Does the term " I am my brothers keeper " have any meaning to the Pakistan air force---.

Do they even have understanding of this term---!!!

It was not the first time that they deceived the navy---.

 

[Raider 21]

Hi,

There were fools amongst the followers of Prophet Mohammad in Medina---. At one time---they got hold of some weapons---and those fools started raising slogans and started showing off their weapons---.

The Prophet of Allah admonished them and told them to be SECRETIVE of their resources and not to let the enemy know what they have and keep it as a surprise---and bring them out at the time of conflict.

You kids are dumb as molasses---or should I say---sbrainless---. You kids have no clue of strategy---tactics---game planning---.

Neither your teachers teach you anything---nor your elders have any clue---.

You keep uttering " muslims will unite one day "---having no clue that muslims were never united any day in the 1400 years of the history of Islam---.

Tell me---any one of you---give me one century in which muslims were united as one for a whole century---.

I mean to say---there is a limit to idiocy---. You can't create unity for one decision---Kalabagh dam---and you want to unite against israel---.

First of all---how are you going to get to Israel---how are you going to wage a war against Israel---what are you going to do different that Hamas was not able to do---what if the neighbors of israel don't want to fight israel---.

Son---the only thing you can do is gang up on weak and poor pakistani people---for criminal activities---and that is where the muslim brotherhood cherishes---.




Hi,

Indeed canadian and americans came to fight---but what benefit did Pakistan gain---nothing---but to show of and strut---and in the meantime since then---the Israelis may have silently killed thousand of pakistanis indirectly---..

Atlantique crew maybe at fault---but the Paf knew that the enemy air force wants to revenge its downed aircraft---that was a hot zone---. They should have flown an aircraft on their own---.

Does the term " I am my brothers keeper " have any meaning to the Pakistan air force---.

Do they even have understanding of this term---!!!

It was not the first time that they deceived the navy---.

Hello,

I don't know why you never gave your suggestions to AHQ. Might help us out a bit than enjoying berating at distance from Socal don't you think sir ....

Pakistan benefited nothing as the pilots who went to fly never went on an official combat tour. They volunteered.....in the similar manner Americans and Canadians benefited nothing as it was not America and Canada's war......

 

[Aasimkhan]

They have a Certain pride too Wind jammer

And I think their pride looks AWESOME...… way too superior

And this arrives Next year

SIMPLY ANOTHER LEVEL

another level? lolz, our JF17 Block3 will be superior to this, and it will come in numbers.....

 

[Hafza Azam]

 

[Sine Nomine]

Hi,

Israelis have the results in front of them to be proud of---.

Paf has been a disgrace over the last multiple decades---. No show at Kargil---no show in preventing the Atlantique---no show in protecting Karachi port in a pre-emptive move to protect the naval assets---no show in protecting Saab aircrafts---no show in getting the right aircraft in a timely manner---no show at Longewala---.

So---where is the pride---for some tricks they have when doing training excercizes with other countries---.

MK hath hola rukh

 

[Storm Force]

another level? lolz, our JF17 Block3 will be superior to this, and it will come in numbers.....

Of .course it is ha ha ha

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

Of .course it is ha ha ha

No its not offcourse. They all sit on the ground like most of IAF fleet.

 

[!eon]

Does the term " I am my brothers keeper " have any meaning to the Pakistan air force---.

No, never

 

[Storm Force]

No its not offcourse. They all sit on the ground like most of IAF fleet.

You hope that happens
But imo in a real war you Pakistanis will get found out

Your lack of resources will show big time
Not enough spares
Actual combat ready planes are much lower than you let on.
You will run out of fuel money and spares very quickly
And the strategic depth or lack of this will mean you have no where to hide or treat .

You just can't do anything on your current military budget.

But you banking on a f16 you call your pride and enemy's envy to keep you away from total loss of a air war in days. Yet we know trump will sanction spares so nobody knows your real service levels of USA warplanes now .

It's all down to your thunders now

 

[litman]

Hi,

There were fools amongst the followers of Prophet Mohammad in Medina---. At one time---they got hold of some weapons---and those fools started raising slogans and started showing off their weapons---.

The Prophet of Allah admonished them and told them to be SECRETIVE of their resources and not to let the enemy know what they have and keep it as a surprise---and bring them out at the time of conflict.

You kids are dumb as molasses---or should I say---sbrainless---. You kids have no clue of strategy---tactics---game planning---.

Neither your teachers teach you anything---nor your elders have any clue---.

You keep uttering " muslims will unite one day "---having no clue that muslims were never united any day in the 1400 years of the history of Islam---.

Tell me---any one of you---give me one century in which muslims were united as one for a whole century---.

I mean to say---there is a limit to idiocy---. You can't create unity for one decision---Kalabagh dam---and you want to unite against israel---.

First of all---how are you going to get to Israel---how are you going to wage a war against Israel---what are you going to do different that Hamas was not able to do---what if the neighbors of israel don't want to fight israel---.

Son---the only thing you can do is gang up on weak and poor pakistani people---for criminal activities---and that is where the muslim brotherhood cherishes---.

-.

while i was replying to your post i was thinking that it will be a waste of time but still i thought to give some sense to you and your reply proved that i made the wrong decision of "bhains k agay been bajana"
so as per the instructions of islam i say salam to you. dont want to waste more time. bye

 

[Timur]

to fight for those innocent and weak musliims who cant defend themselves against the enemies

the belivers fightin the case of allah and the non belivers fightin the case of tagut..

you say innocent.. and say cant defent themselves.. the ppl you are talking about are the one who destroyed the last khilafah they faught for the brits and the other kuffar against the khilafah.. you really wonder why they got so much beaten up and humilated infront of the whole world.. they only cry for your help and do the muslim show to get their own nationalistic arab palestine? its not a matter of muslims.. we should make this a matter of muslims and that would include that it should be the property of muslims and not just given away for pan arab dreams.. Mekka and medina should be made like vatikan a own state wich is controlled by muslims and not as a kuffar investment market to make money ..

pakistan turkey indonesia azerbaycan should work much more together you can get qatar, tunesia and marocco and some african states together wich are not destructive that should be the main focus

by the way.. pakistan did very well with jf17 .. but they should buy some air superiority fighters.. at least 50 are needed if I could make a decision I would buy about 100 j20 but I know money money money. I do not know if it makes sence