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ناظرین کہتے ہیں کہ اپنی آنکھوں سے دیکھنے کے بعد اور کانوں سے سننے کے بعد بهی اگر صحیح فیصلہ نہیں کریں گے تو آپ کیا ہونگے یہ بڑی بات ہے.

اس وقت مخالفت کی نہیں خدا کی قسم اپنے دل پر ہاتھ رکھیے چند چیزیں میں آپ کو دکھاؤں گا اور پھر چند سوالات کروں گا فیصلہ آپ اپنے ضمیر کے مطابق کریں کہ ان چیزوں کو دیکھ کر جو جو بھی یہ پروگرام دیکھ رہے ہوں جس جماعت سے بهی تعلق ہوں اگر اس ملک سے محبت کرتے ہیں اپنے مستقبل سے محبت کرتے ہیں اور اپنے آپ سے محبت کرتے ہیں تو اس پیکج کو دیکھ کر فیصلہ کیجئے. ڈاکٹر دانش


Watch this 7 minutes clip to see the dirty games of Pakistani corrupt politicians.
 
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@Jazzbot

meri jaan isii liay tou issay siaasat kehtay hain !!!!

acha ab agar meri dil ki baat sunni hai tou phir suno. Democracy can never work for Pakistan.
 
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@Jazzbot

meri jaan isii liay tou issay siaasat kehtay hain !!!!

acha ab agar meri dil ki baat sunni hai tou phir suno. Democracy can never work for Pakistan.

this is not politics, politics is game of god, its based on principles. and yes democracy is the only way to defeat these crooks, else the worst is that either a chor general would come up and destroy the country or one of these will declare himself the king !

if we want to rise, we have to fight through these two evils...
 
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this is not politics, politics is game of god, its based on principles. and yes democracy is the only way to defeat these crooks, else the worst is that either a chor general would come up and destroy the country or one of these will declare himself the king !

if we want to rise, we have to fight through these two evils...
We already defeated the two evils .... IK and Zardari :cheesy: !!!!
 
this is not politics, politics is game of god, its based on principles. and yes democracy is the only way to defeat these crooks, else the worst is that either a chor general would come up and destroy the country or one of these will declare himself the king !

if we want to rise, we have to fight through these two evils...

Had democraZy been a total solution God would have elected prophets.
 
Had democraZy been a total solution God would have elected prophets.

God came up with Diyat law too, is it a solution to every murder case? No.

factually Islam proposed no system at all. its an open end to be constructed with accordance to the time and demands of the time, keeping in the view the islamic principles, hence nothing wrong in accepting the best available system.
 
God came up with Diyat law too, is it a solution to every murder case? No.

factually Islam proposed no system at all. its an open end to be constructed with accordance to the time and demands of the time, keeping in the view the islamic principles, hence nothing wrong in accepting the best available system.

A misconception. Islam has given a combination of all the existing political, social and economic systems being practiced globally. It is how we interpret it. Most of the time we interpret it wrong. Like in the case of Diyat law, which has been misinterpreted by people like us in their own interest.

Like in the case of Jihad, which has been exploited and misinterpreted for personal gains.

As of Islamic belief - Islam is a code of conduct which was consolidated and completed 1400 years ago and is a code since then till dooms day.Therefore, it is not possible that it leaves open end. It provides a corridor to walk, which we either think as a tread to walk on or a thread with open ends. If it does, then our faith of Deen-e-Kamil is negated.
 
@Jazzbot

meri jaan isii liay tou issay siaasat kehtay hain !!!!

acha ab agar meri dil ki baat sunni hai tou phir suno. Democracy can never work for Pakistan.


Its called dirty, pathetic and immoral type of politics. And what do you suggest for Pakistan if democracy won't work here?
 
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@Panther 57 Islam is actually a 'deen' whose basic aim was to give a set of guidelines to humanity. Our Holy Book has been worded with God, or Allah (SWT) as we like to call him, dirctly talking to us often addressing the Prophet (pbuh) or us, the Children of Adam, or a denomination, Children of Isreal and so on. Now, why is this? It is because the aim of the Quran as we often see it is instruction but that is not entirely so: it is also interpretation which requires us to put in reason. In fact, that's how Allah (SWT) starts with the Prophet (pbuh): 'Taught man by the pen which he knew not' that is knowledge.

Islam puts a great weight on interpretation because in terms of size our Holy Book is the smallest and thus the most concentrated. Therefore, simple face value of the verses should not be taken. The Quran was the fulfillment of Allah's covenant to humans of SENDING us guidance directly now He will not do that i.e. you will not get another Prophet. Now, we have been taught the principles and must apply them. For that we are on our own. So applying this in terms of politics means that we not only should but must evolve a system of our own in terms of administration. See, if you are going to search up the Quran for guidance about road construction or city planning you are insulting the book and yourself! We must use the philosophical premise behind what the Quran says: fairplay, social justice, community consensus, accountability and so on to our political system rather than just copy paste what it states. If that were to be so then Saudi Arabia calls the Quran its constitution yet I do not know of a single instance in the Quran where it states that I, as a Muslim, should call a man my king.

This lip service to the Quran is a sign of hypocrisy and using faith for politics like our Zia-ul-Haq who wanted to call himself Amer-ul-Mominun and was allowing his country to be doped up and possibly earning because of it. Islam is deeper than that, much deeper and to see that we need knowledge. Plato sums it up greately when he says: you can learn; you can learn how to learn, but not simultaneously. Perhaps this is the reason why Allah (SWT) chose to reveal the Quran to our beloved Prophet at the age of 40 when he had lived, learned, and thought.

Regarding your point of electing Prophets; prophethood is a promise of God to mankind, He takes responsibility directly and it is very clear that God is unfathomably above all His creation. However, as far as Khalifas, Prime Ministers and Presidents are concerned then they must be choosen amongst the people by them, Allah (SWT) must feel that He has given us enough to be able to do so rather than send us one from up above.
 
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Its called dirty, pathetic and immoral type of politics. And what do you suggest for Pakistan if democracy won't work here?
Islam gave us a perfect political and justice system. we should follow it !!!

Did you know that taxation is strictly haram in islam ?
 
this is not politics, politics is game of god, its based on principles. and yes democracy is the only way to defeat these crooks, else the worst is that either a chor general would come up and destroy the country or one of these will declare himself the king !

if we want to rise, we have to fight through these two evils...

dear friend, the thing you are trying to frame here is unfounded?
here we hve only the dirty face of it, with conspiracies & conspirators in it?
whatever you may hve thought, its only looks good in books, while we hve still liars like tony blair the his highness in the oldest of the democracies in the world, for who we should cry?
 
dear friend, the thing you are trying to frame here is unfounded?
here we hve only the dirty face of it, with conspiracies & conspirators in it?
whatever you may hve thought, its only looks good in books, while we hve still liars like tony blair the his highness in the oldest of the democracies in the world, for who we should cry?

bad leaders do merge from the very system.. but on the other hand you dont have any sound system that has enter and exit doors,except democracy !
 
Islam gave us a perfect political and justice system. we should follow it !!!

Did you know that taxation is strictly haram in islam ?


Its a completely different debate in which I don't want to indulge right now. So I'll better stick to this thread.

Don't you think after watching above clip that at what level we as a nation have come down? These politicians can now carelessly lie with us and then walk away so easily. Don't you think its a pity that what we as a nation have become? In an era of internet, mass communication and awareness, its such a shame that we as a whole are still living in dark ages where anyone can fool us so easily.
 
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