Pakistanis condemning Pulwama terror strike on social media

[scorpionx]

yes, and in a democracy, you would hold a vote and respect the wishes of the people.

In Indian "Democracy" you invade with a million men and commit war crimes.

Democracy does not imply putting sovereignty into risk. For Indians the very question of autonomous Kashmir let alone a free one is dead after it was attacked in '48 and again '65. Ask yourself a basic question. Indians only have become more resolute on only one thing, i.e making LOC as permanent IB and they think they are being gracious enough by offering this solution to Pakistan.

Again I ask the simple question : You are a Pakistani citizen. Why are you worried what some Kashmiris desire ?? Is it because of humanitarian concern or is it religious affiliation ??



If India is not a true democracy, so is not Pakistan. Am I wrong ??

But one of the things that are promising about the Indian Constitution is for India to be a socialist republic. It is not so but that is not in the scope of this thread. But can you say the same about Pakistan ??

Tell me, if tomorrow all and everyone from the Kashmir Valley decide to go to Pakistan or at least for the Kashmir Valley to become part of Pakistan, what do you offer to them that India cannot ??

@Levina @Joe Shearer @scorpionx

@padamchen

Pragmatism says Water security, psychology says validation of TNT.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Again I ask the simple question : You are a Pakistani citizen. Why are you worried what some Kashmiris desire ?? Is it because of humanitarian concern or is it religious affiliation ??

Isn't it obvious? Kashmir is disputed territory between India and Pakistan, and recognized internationally as such. Pakistan and Pakistanis have a direct interest in Kashmir because we believe the people should be allowed to decide which country they wish to be a part of, as outlined in the UNSC Resolutions that the Indian government agreed to implement before reneging on them.

 

[Verve]

Liberal Burgers like her are beating and killing their maids and she's voicing for some dead Indian soldiers - wah!

 

[Ali Tariq]

Just saw an interview of Reham Khan, what a shameful lady, she is.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Pakistan and India are both deeply flawed democracies.
We tried to cheat our way to the top by having dictators, and that blew up in our face.
India tried to cheat it's way to the top by having extreme right wing nationalists. And that is now blowing up in your face.

The difference is that Paksitan has now elected a goverment that is deeply entrenched in real democrac. It has support from every sector of society, every minority group.
It's rhetoric is democratically based and founded on human rights for everyone.

India is going the opposit way.

What can Pakistan offer Kashmir? Ask people azad Kashmir. We have never had to send our troops to quell them ever. They Identify as Pakistanis, they fight in our wars, they share our identity.
No matter what, IOK will never have that wish India.

That is precisely what the Kashmiri did until 89. And even now, there are 2500 bidding for jobs in the armed forces.

 

[xyxmt]

Indian Red Tomato Ban has me shivering and shaking and im reeking with fear.

Oh God India!! Please Modi ji sell us your red tomatoes please

he will have to keep two for himself

 

[Rusty]

Democracy does not imply putting sovereignty into risk. For Indians the very question of autonomous Kashmir let alone a free one is dead after it was attacked in '48 and again '65. Ask yourself a basic question. Indians only have become more resolute on only one thing, i.e making LOC as permanent IB and they think they are being gracious enough by offering this solution to Pakistan.


Pragmatism says Water security, psychology says validation of TNT.

Democracy is about freedom of the people. If Pople don't want to be with you, in a democracy they have a right to leave. Look at examples like chekosolvakia, South Sundan, East Timur, etc etc.
Even in Canada, Qubec had a vote to leave. You didn't see Canadian troops murdering Qubecers.

It doesnt' matter at the end of the day what some bihari or Tamil wants. It only matters what Kashmiris want.

That is precisely what the Kashmiri did until 89. And even now, there are 2500 bidding for jobs in the armed forces.

There were jews begging for jobs in Nazi Germany.

When you destory their society and don't allow them to any economic prosperity, they will take what they can get.

 

[Jackdaws]

The said journalist in article, Sheyr Mirza, is an active member of India backed organizations like Aman Ki Asha and SAMAAJ, and writes for DAWN, The Jung Group and Outlook India.
Now, we know from where these apologies comming from.

The other pictures are having the same playcard and backgrounds, sums it all.

So you are against people wanting peace?

 

[scorpionx]

Democracy is about freedom of the people. If Pople don't want to be with you, in a democracy they have a right to leave. Look at examples like chekosolvakia, South Sundan, East Timur, etc etc.
Even in Canada, Qubec had a vote to leave. You didn't see Canadian troops murdering Qubecers.

It doesnt' matter at the end of the day what some bihari or Tamil wants. It only matters what Kashmiris want.


There were jews begging for jobs in Nazi Germany.

When you destory their society and don't allow them to any economic prosperity, they will take what they can get.

What stopped you following your own advice in '48 and '65? Why Pakistan decided to take Kashmir by force then? And expect India to follow Canada, Chek, Sudan and Timur? Should India act according to Pakistan's whims?

 

[Jackdaws]

didn't address the fact that you never see too many Hindus condemn the things listed.
Also didn't deny the butcher of Gujrat was elected PM.

That progress I guess....



The real question is why India does not want one.
Answer is that they know they will loose due to all the atrocities they have commited.
Real democracies are not afraid of the vote.
Facists pretending to be democrats are!!

Enough Hindus condemn it. Including I. And I am not a Modi fan. Doesn't deserve to be PM. I doubt he commissioned any killings though. But you didn't address the question of convicted criminals being your leaders. Progress there too.

Yet your government had not a bit of appreciation for Imran Khan's statement.


What it's always been, some form of a plebiscite, district by district if needed.

You can't talk about humanity and peace and ending bloodshed while continuing to support India's occupation of Kashmir.

Shame your country rejected the district by district plebiscite then

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Shame your country rejected the district by district plebiscite then

Bring it up again then.

 

[Peshwa]

Democracy is about freedom of the people. If Pople don't want to be with you, in a democracy they have a right to leave.

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Absolutely wrong!
Democracy is only a form of government that allows people to choose their own leaders through a vote. It’s about representation, not sovereignty.
Democracy does not guarantee the right to sovereignty over land.
Are you suggesting that if majority of people in my building in nyc want to free ourselves and form a new country in the middle of manhattan, that it is our right and that we should be allowed so?!

Show me an instance where democracy gives you that right.

A vote for plebiscite is not democracy. Please understand the difference. The former is a means to an end, the latter a form of government, ie. Once you have established rule over land, who governs the land. Democracy would come as a next step to plebiscite if the people choose that form of governance.

 

[Desert Fox]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10156988029984730

"Aman Ki Asha" group, all women, all liberals, where's their condemnation of the hell Indian paramilitary troops have unleashed on Kashmir?

I don't have a Facebook account, could someone post these images at them.

It's always the "Aman" ka Tamasha crowd, very quick to sellout their national interests and principles for $ocial media popularity and Bollywood.

These scums need to be sent to the LoC for a change where they can spend some time with our jawans under fire, hell send their @sses to siachen to give them a dose of the hardships and sacrifices our men make safeguarding and upholding their Pakistan while these traitors and sellouts sip their chai in the comfort of their expensive homes in gated upper class communities in Lahore and Islamabad fantasizing about Bollywood.

This is what happens when you allow a considerable portion of your populace to become softies addicted to superficiality and materialism.

@Psychic @The Sandman @Metanoia @OsmanAli98 @Taimur Khurram

You don't like the "Liberals", you don't like the Left... Who do you like then ??

Liberalism is a left leaning ideology, historically speaking. Even now Liberalism can easily accommodate extremist leftist ideologies like Bolshevism/Communism/Marxism.

We see this happening in every western country with the ripples making their way to every nation on this earth.

 

[Psychic]

That is precisely what the Kashmiri did until 89. And even now, there are 2500 bidding for jobs in the armed forces.

British Indian army had 2.5 million men in 1945---Means you guys shouldn't consider ghandhi as your baapu since you were happy under the raj and didn't need independence. @Desert Fox

 

[Desert Fox]

Feminist check.
Liberal check.
'Human rights activist' (oh the irony)
Putting up all sorts of trash comforting the force which maims Kashmiri children check.

One must wonder how many little girl servants she must have in her household doing slave labor so she can have all the free time to be a champion of human rights on the internet.

Lahori Check

More of this lahori liberal trash

https://twitter.com/SehyrMirza

Khotai kha kha k in kanjaron k dimagh kharab ho gaye hain

It says she writes of 'outlook India', which says it all.