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Spotlight on Afghan refugees in Pakistan - The Washington Post

NOWSHERA, Pakistan — A few hundred men took to the streets in a suburb of this city early this month, furiously chanting for the expulsion of neighbors they described as interlopers.

The objects of their ire were Afghan refugees, millions of whom reside here in Pakistan. They are hardly newcomers — many fled war, Russian occupation or Taliban rule years or even decades ago. Many were born in Pakistan.

But the recent demonstration was a sign of bubbling discontent about Afghans in Pakistan, who comprise the world’s largest refugee population. While their presence has long been a source of tension, Pakistani politicians and the media are increasingly exaggerating their numbers and identifying them as a problem that must be solved as the neighboring nations eye the finale of the U.S.-led Afghan war, remote as that seems for now.

On an official visit to Australia last month, Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani called on the international community to help repatriate Afghans, who he said were “causing numerous difficulties” and spreading polio. In a recent interview, Interior Minister Rehman Malik accused the refugees of being “involved in criminal activities,” and said sending Afghans home was among Pakistan’s priorities.

The spotlight on Afghan refugees comes as the ever-wary neighbors trade barbs about cross-border violence and a potential negotiated settlement to the war in Afghanistan. Afghan officials, like their U.S. counterparts, have blamed Pakistan for fueling the Taliban insurgency, a claim Pakistan denies. But Pakistan wants a key role in reconciliation, and the refugees — who by most accounts Pakistan has hosted fairly graciously — could provide leverage.

At the same time, persistent violence has led to a decrease in refugee returns to Afghanistan, and there is scant sign that those remaining will soon leave. Amid a failing economy and political jockeying ahead of 2013 elections in Pakistan, analysts say Afghans are convenient targets. Indeed, the argument here echoes the U.S. immigration debate, with concerns about foreigners who commit crimes, steal jobs and fail to assimilate.

“We have been treating them as our brothers,” said Sher Bahadur, 64, one Nowshera resident who joined the recent demonstration, which took place after a fight between Pakistanis and Afghans. “Now the situation is so bad that we fear they have the might, power and resources to displace us.”

The complaints are not new, but the tenor has alarmed Afghan officials. One senior Afghan official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said Pakistan is showing “early signs of new pressure” over refugees. The official said it was unclear whether the motivation is a desire to see Afghans leave, win additional refugee aid or blame Afghans for Taliban activity inside Pakistan.

According to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, 1.7 million registered Afghan refugees live in Pakistan; the government says the figure is around 2 million. Another 1 million are believed to be in Pakistan illegally, said Habibullah Khan, secretary of the government’s States and Frontiers Regions Division. In the first 10 months of 2011, 43,000 Afghan refugees returned home, a figure that was 59 percent lower than the same period last year, the UNHCR said.

The majority of refugees are ethnic Pashtuns who have blended into Pakistan’s Pashtun-dominant belt along the border, which has long been poorly patrolled and traversed by migrant populations, including militants. Afghanistan, in fact, does not recognize the border, nor do many Pashtuns.

Originally housed in camps, most refugees now live in regular neighborhoods, where some have become fixtures in the transportation, clothing and carpet industries. Most are poorly-paid laborers.

There is little doubt the Afghans’ presence has affected Pakistan’s weak economy, but just how is debatable. Pakistan hosts more refugees for every dollar of per capita income than any other nation, which makes it difficult to absorb and support them, according to the UNHCR. But Afghans also contribute, said Rustam Shah Mohmand, Pakistan’s former refugee commissioner.

“Pakistan gets foreign exchange” from Afghan carpet exporters, Mohmand said. “Many have relatives in the West who send remittances. . . . They provide cheap farm labor to the landowners in the frontier.”

Yet many Pakistanis depict Afghans as drug- and gun-runners, in part because they are often arrested after militant attacks and violent crimes. The accusations are unfair, human rights advocates say.

Last year, the Pakistani government decided that all Afghan refugees would be “voluntarily” repatriated after the end of 2012. What that means remains unclear. A plan to offer visas will probably apply to only about 150,000 refugees, Khan said. But Tim Irwin, a UNHCR spokesman, said “there’s certainly no talk of anyone being forced back.”

There is such talk in Nowshera, however, where thousands of Afghans live. The recent fight broke out with a quarrel between Afghan and Pakistani youths, after which adults jumped into the fray, residents said. Pakistanis — who refer to themselves as “locals” — said Afghans attacked with rods, wounding several, then followed them to the hospital with Kalashnikovs.

Last week, dozens of Pakistani men packed into one elder’s home and recited grievances: Afghans keep to themselves, and they insulted Pakistan during the brawl. They are rich and buy off police. They are bad drivers.

“We are Pashtun, but we are not Afghan. We are Pakistani,” said Mohammed Akbar, 31. A man sitting on a sofa interjected: “The Afghans should go back!”

Yet a visit to Afghan elders — at the grand home of a clothing importer — revealed how indelibly the immigrants have become part of the landscape. Several had lived in Pakistan for 40 years and held dual citizenship. The fight, they shrugged, was a mere scuffle being exploited by Pakistani community leaders for political gain.

“We are mixing. But whenever such an incident happens, they label us Kabulis,” or Kabul natives, said refugee Jamil Khan, 23, who participated in the fight.

Both sides said the issue would be settled by elders, according to local tradition. But the Pakistanis said tensions would remain rife.

“Nobody believes that they will go,” said Liaqat Gilani, a former district mayor.

A short drive away at a former Afghan refugee camp that is now a squalid slum, truck owner Watan Khan, 39, said he has no plan to return to the home town he left in 1978, in Afghanistan’s Taliban-riddled Logar province. Therefore, he said, he has no right to complain about Pakistani treatment.

“Even if our lives are not as good as locals, we have no choice,” Khan said. “We are living in someone else’s land.”

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There is only one solution. Make them go away by gun point. Send in the army to support the people of Pakhtunkhwa. They have no legal documentation or permit to live there. I know there's lots of Afghani Pakhtuns posing as Pakistanis on the Internet, but they are not taken seriously and most Pakistanis know them for who they are.
 
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Pakistan is already over-burdened as it is....

govt. had announced that those with no NICs or ''temporary cards'' would be banished from the country but as usual words never fully translated into action

i pray to God that these people can return to their homes in peace, with dignity. They are a liability on us...a HUGE liability. but surely they WANT to be back in their home countries.

Iran and Pakistan have dealt with the majority of this crisis, it has had social and economic costs.....
 
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Pakistani Pakhtuns are very patriotic Pakistanis. They have always stood with Pakistan from day one. They are the one who freed half of Kashmir voluntarily. Its funny when Afghans think they will join Afghanistan. Even during the South Waziristan operation the locals preferred travelling hundreds of miles away to even Karachi than a few dozen miles to Afghanistan.

If Afghan refugees want to stay in Pakistan, then they should work for this:

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If not, then go back to Afghanistan. Either way, Pakistan will be a prosperous country while Afghanistan's future remains uncertain.
 
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i am confused on this topic .. Sometime i feel that they must go but if i imagine myself onto their position i would have done the same ...

Best bet is to end this war first if we really want to solve our problems otherwise who will want to return if there is War going on .
 
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God damn.. im not pashtun.. but quetta is full of them afghan druggies too.. they should go back to their country.
 
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I have no idea what this Government is doing, the facts are right infront of us but they refuse to take care of this problem. Pakistan is already a poor country and these millions of Afghans are just over burdening our nation more when we ourselves are going through such a severe economic crunch.

I am sorry to say but these Afghan refugees are involved in illegal activities whether they are small such as petty thieves or mobile snatching or bigger ones such as kidnapping, prostitution and drug smuggling. Whichever neighbourhood these Afghan refugees move into results in a huge spike in crime. Dont believe me, take a trip down to the Afghan Basti and you will get the answer. They dont respect our laws, they dont respect our police and they dont respect our customs. Enough is enough, we have tolerated this nuisance for long enough. Its time for them to go home as they are no longer welcome in Pakistan. Its obvious that they will not leave voluntarily, Police and Paramilitary need to be called in and they should be forcefully loaded into buses bound towards Afghanistan. End of story, we have been Mr. Nice Guy for way to long.
 
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Estimate is that there are more than 5 million afghans in Pakistan. They wont return so easily, many have acquired pakistani citizenship through illegal means.
 
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We should not be cruel on our Afghan brothers. If we force them to return now, all we'll be doing is giving Uncle Sam more target practice. As the US/NATO fails to perform on the ground, they tend to drop "daisy cutters" on civilians and then claim to have killed alot of "taliban".
 
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Estimate is that there are more than 5 million afghans in Pakistan. They wont return so easily, many have acquired pakistani citizenship through illegal means.

those who were born in pakistan or have long residence should be naturalized..as long as they agree to surrender afghan nationality.
 
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Punjab should also start sharing the burden of these refugees , out of 5 mill 2.5 of them should be housed in punjab and given pakistani nationality .
 
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Pakistani Pakhtuns are very patriotic Pakistanis. They have always stood with Pakistan from day one. They are the one who freed half of Kashmir voluntarily. Its funny when Afghans think they will join Afghanistan. Even during the South Waziristan operation the locals preferred travelling hundreds of miles away to even Karachi than a few dozen miles to Afghanistan.

If Afghan refugees want to stay in Pakistan, then they should work for this:

Pakistan-Afghanistan Confederation
pakistan-afghanistan-the-conjoined-twins.jpg


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If not, then go back to Afghanistan. Either way, Pakistan will be a prosperous country while Afghanistan's future remains uncertain.

in this way the land of pure will let traitors, thiefs, smugglers, backstabbers and corrupts in we dont want our land to be impurified
 
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Punjab should also start sharing the burden of these refugees , out of 5 mill 2.5 of them should be housed in punjab and given pakistani nationality .

we cant send them to afghanistan thats impractical and unnecessary...
and will cause much suffering.....
best thing will be to block the borders and let no more come in...and those who are here should be made legal...so that they have no reason to shuttle between afghanistan and pakistan.
 
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Pakistani Pakhtuns are very patriotic Pakistanis. They have always stood with Pakistan from day one. They are the one who freed half of Kashmir voluntarily. Its funny when Afghans think they will join Afghanistan. Even during the South Waziristan operation the locals preferred travelling hundreds of miles away to even Karachi than a few dozen miles to Afghanistan.

If Afghan refugees want to stay in Pakistan, then they should work for this:

Pakistan-Afghanistan Confederation
pakistan-afghanistan-the-conjoined-twins.jpg


images



If not, then go back to Afghanistan. Either way, Pakistan will be a prosperous country while Afghanistan's future remains uncertain.

This is just your thought brother , i never saw any of afghan leader want to join us , but if they do without disturbing our democracy and freedom and give up their militant ways and be civilized then there might be some hope of this , without these things it would be like doing suicide.

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we cant send them to afghanistan thats impractical and unnecessary...
and will cause much suffering.....
best thing will be to block the borders and let no more come in...and those who are here should be made legal...so that they have no reason to shuttle between afghanistan and pakistan.

we can if gvt decides , we have right to decide its our country
 
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