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A group of senior doctors in Pakistan and abroad on Tuesday wrote a letter to the government, urging it to review its decision to allow congregational prayers to be held in mosques and limit the prayers to 3-5 persons as it had done previously in view of the coronavirus outbreak.

The letter, the veracity of which was confirmed to Dawn.com by Indus Hospital CEO Dr Abdul Bari Khan, was also addressed to the ulema and business community. While thanking the government and ulema for developing a consensus over the issue, the letter listed the medical community's "strong reservations" over the decision to allow prayer congregations.

On Saturday, President Dr Arif Alvi had announced that neither the state machinery nor clerics would stop citizens from visiting mosques as the government accepted almost all demands of the clerics related to the holding of Friday, Taraweeh and daily congregational prayers with the condition of social distancing and other precautionary measures.

But the letter written by the doctors warned that with mosques across the country being filled predominantly by people over the age of 50, the risk of the virus spreading is high. It said videos that surfaced in the past 48 hours had shown that more than 80 per cent of the people attending prayers in mosques were mostly in their 60s and 70s.

"Clearly this has resulted in the violation of the first and foremost principle of preventing the spread of the virus in the most vulnerable group" of elderly people, stated the letter, which has been endorsed by the Pakistan Islamic Medical Association (PIMA).

"With Ramazan approaching, we would understandably expect higher number of namazis (worshippers) attending the prayers. Moreover, long Taraweeh prayers and waiting times will lead to prolonged gatherings. It is all but certain that this will cause significant mayhem, as the mosques practising social distancing will only be able to accommodate 20-25pc of the regular namazis, which will further worsen the situation," it added.

According to the letter, the mismanagement could also result in conflicts between worshipers, mosque administrations and law enforcement agencies, as observed in some areas of Karachi recently.

Hospitals in Karachi have started experiencing a "significant influx of corona positive patients", the communique revealed, adding: "We anticipate these numbers and resultant mortality to expand exponentially in the next few days."

"This will undeniably result in significant pressure on our already compromised health system."

The doctors explained that increased exposure to the virus increases the likelihood of getting infected and, as a consequence, of complications and death. "We fear that allowing congregational prayers in larger number in our mosques may contribute to such fatal outcomes," the letter stated.

It expressed the fear that all of the above issues will have the combined effect of jeopardising the "reputation of Islam and that of our ulema" and will lead to "unwanted loss of lives".

Noting that Pakistan is considered as a "fort of Islam", the letter said that the existence of the Muslim ummah is closely linked to the strength and progress of Pakistan.

"In these circumstances, if Covid-19 disease becomes an epidemic in Pakistan and the government loses control of its management in the country, it will not just be a failure of Pakistan as a country but it may have substantial unwanted and unforeseen effects on the whole Muslim ummah," the letter said.

It also cautioned that while doctors are ready to put their lives at risk, if healthcare professionals in Pakistan die as per the trend seen in other countries, "there won’t be many resources
including manpower to look after our patients".

'Indiscipline' of Pakistani society
The medics also clarified that Pakistanis "are no more immune to this virus than the rest of the world" , saying data released by the UK's National Health Service had shown that a vast majority of healthcare staff who died there due to Covid-19 comprised Asians including many Muslims.

They observed that the "social fiber" of the Pakistani society is one where "mismanagement, indiscipline and not following or obeying the rules is predominantly common [and] where [even] educated people do not follow the day-to-day traffic rules (for example) and miscommitment in our dealings is a norm".

With such habits and behavioural patterns, it is "almost impossible" for ulema, mosque managements and the administration to make people abide by the conditions mentioned in the consensus document of the government and the ulema, especially in densely populated areas of the country "where people are generally not educated and unable to comprehend the consequences of such violations", their letter stated.

It added that while the comparison between the opening of mosques with the opening of businesses and shops is "not valid", the doctors also requested the government and business community to "practice patience" and continue to keep markets and non-essential shops closed and only allow home deliveries from restaurants.

In the same vein, "any other worldly matters leading to public gatherings and interactions should also be curtailed in exactly the same fashion", the letter suggested, reminding that the novel coronavirus does not distinguish between people based on the nature of their activities but the strength, quantity and duration of their gatherings.

The letter was signed by the following doctors:

  • Dr Abdul Bari Khan, Karachi
  • Dr Faisal Mahmood, Karachi
  • Dr Khurram Khan, London
  • Dr Shamvil Ashraf, Karachi
  • Dr Saad Niaz, Karachi
  • Dr Abdul Basit, Karachi
  • Dr Hanif Chatni, Karachi
  • Dr Muhammad Razi, Mirpurkhas
  • Dr Fareed Shah, Madina
  • Dr Zahid Jamal, Karachi
  • Dr Yahya Chawla, Karachi
  • Dr Mughees, Makkah
  • Dr Raza Sayyed, Karachi
https://www.dawn.com/news/1551117/i...back-decision-to-allow-congregational-prayers
 
A group of senior doctors in Pakistan and abroad on Tuesday wrote a letter to the government, urging it to review its decision to allow congregational prayers to be held in mosques and limit the prayers to 3-5 persons as it had done previously in view of the coronavirus outbreak.

The letter, the veracity of which was confirmed to Dawn.com by Indus Hospital CEO Dr Abdul Bari Khan, was also addressed to the ulema and business community. While thanking the government and ulema for developing a consensus over the issue, the letter listed the medical community's "strong reservations" over the decision to allow prayer congregations.

On Saturday, President Dr Arif Alvi had announced that neither the state machinery nor clerics would stop citizens from visiting mosques as the government accepted almost all demands of the clerics related to the holding of Friday, Taraweeh and daily congregational prayers with the condition of social distancing and other precautionary measures.

But the letter written by the doctors warned that with mosques across the country being filled predominantly by people over the age of 50, the risk of the virus spreading is high. It said videos that surfaced in the past 48 hours had shown that more than 80 per cent of the people attending prayers in mosques were mostly in their 60s and 70s.

"Clearly this has resulted in the violation of the first and foremost principle of preventing the spread of the virus in the most vulnerable group" of elderly people, stated the letter, which has been endorsed by the Pakistan Islamic Medical Association (PIMA).

"With Ramazan approaching, we would understandably expect higher number of namazis (worshippers) attending the prayers. Moreover, long Taraweeh prayers and waiting times will lead to prolonged gatherings. It is all but certain that this will cause significant mayhem, as the mosques practising social distancing will only be able to accommodate 20-25pc of the regular namazis, which will further worsen the situation," it added.

According to the letter, the mismanagement could also result in conflicts between worshipers, mosque administrations and law enforcement agencies, as observed in some areas of Karachi recently.

Hospitals in Karachi have started experiencing a "significant influx of corona positive patients", the communique revealed, adding: "We anticipate these numbers and resultant mortality to expand exponentially in the next few days."

"This will undeniably result in significant pressure on our already compromised health system."

The doctors explained that increased exposure to the virus increases the likelihood of getting infected and, as a consequence, of complications and death. "We fear that allowing congregational prayers in larger number in our mosques may contribute to such fatal outcomes," the letter stated.

It expressed the fear that all of the above issues will have the combined effect of jeopardising the "reputation of Islam and that of our ulema" and will lead to "unwanted loss of lives".

Noting that Pakistan is considered as a "fort of Islam", the letter said that the existence of the Muslim ummah is closely linked to the strength and progress of Pakistan.

"In these circumstances, if Covid-19 disease becomes an epidemic in Pakistan and the government loses control of its management in the country, it will not just be a failure of Pakistan as a country but it may have substantial unwanted and unforeseen effects on the whole Muslim ummah," the letter said.

It also cautioned that while doctors are ready to put their lives at risk, if healthcare professionals in Pakistan die as per the trend seen in other countries, "there won’t be many resources
including manpower to look after our patients".

'Indiscipline' of Pakistani society
The medics also clarified that Pakistanis "are no more immune to this virus than the rest of the world" , saying data released by the UK's National Health Service had shown that a vast majority of healthcare staff who died there due to Covid-19 comprised Asians including many Muslims.

They observed that the "social fiber" of the Pakistani society is one where "mismanagement, indiscipline and not following or obeying the rules is predominantly common [and] where [even] educated people do not follow the day-to-day traffic rules (for example) and miscommitment in our dealings is a norm".

With such habits and behavioural patterns, it is "almost impossible" for ulema, mosque managements and the administration to make people abide by the conditions mentioned in the consensus document of the government and the ulema, especially in densely populated areas of the country "where people are generally not educated and unable to comprehend the consequences of such violations", their letter stated.

It added that while the comparison between the opening of mosques with the opening of businesses and shops is "not valid", the doctors also requested the government and business community to "practice patience" and continue to keep markets and non-essential shops closed and only allow home deliveries from restaurants.

In the same vein, "any other worldly matters leading to public gatherings and interactions should also be curtailed in exactly the same fashion", the letter suggested, reminding that the novel coronavirus does not distinguish between people based on the nature of their activities but the strength, quantity and duration of their gatherings.

The letter was signed by the following doctors:

  • Dr Abdul Bari Khan, Karachi
  • Dr Faisal Mahmood, Karachi
  • Dr Khurram Khan, London
  • Dr Shamvil Ashraf, Karachi
  • Dr Saad Niaz, Karachi
  • Dr Abdul Basit, Karachi
  • Dr Hanif Chatni, Karachi
  • Dr Muhammad Razi, Mirpurkhas
  • Dr Fareed Shah, Madina
  • Dr Zahid Jamal, Karachi
  • Dr Yahya Chawla, Karachi
  • Dr Mughees, Makkah
  • Dr Raza Sayyed, Karachi
https://www.dawn.com/news/1551117/i...back-decision-to-allow-congregational-prayers

The Islamic Republic listening to doctors and scientists? Good joke.
 
What a bunch of bullshit to say Pakistanis are the only people who don't follow lockdown.

In America, in Europe, every effing where people don't obey the lockdown and are forced to stay at homes. Guess what, they don't come out cause they will die of starvation in home but they're bored out of their minds.

As for the coronavirus, like i said. It doesn't matter what the government does now. They unleashed this virus upon Pakistanis for cheap american dollars as aid, for their greed. Imran Khan is on record saying it is a like nazla zukam, the evil shaytan sitting in government who make poor Pakistanis suffer for sugar and wheat must have thought we can now profit off coronavirus too, its just a flu. Now enjoy the suffering.
 
As for the coronavirus, like i said. It doesn't matter what the government does now. They unleashed this virus upon Pakistanis for cheap american dollars as aid, for their greed. Imran Khan is on record saying it is a like nazla zukam, the evil shaytan sitting in government who make poor Pakistanis suffer for sugar and wheat must have thought we can now profit off coronavirus too, its just a flu. Now enjoy the suffering.
Who is going to gave Pakistan anything,when whole world economy is under lockdown and is heading towards a disaster?
 
Who is going to gave Pakistan anything,when whole world economy is under lockdown and is heading towards a disaster?

https://news.abplive.com/news/world...llion-emergency-financing-to-pakistan-1199853

IK has begged for aid several times now.

The ironic thing is IK insults Riasat e Medina daily but couldn't follow clear hadiths. Don't go to area of epidemic, don't come from area of epidemic. Quarantine people.

Every person that died, their blood is on IKs hands. It's clear cut murder.

I was shocked when i saw my family member come from China as late as end of February. He wasn't quarantined. How could the government not have closed borders?

Now i am supposed to believe the munafiqat tears that he cares for poor? He destroyed our country. When it was as simple as shutting down borders and quarantining people. Today, Pakistan has shut its borders and won't even bring its own people. What's the point now? Who are you fooling?

Here, i am a future predictor now. Pakistan has thousands of cases. Its going to reach 20k soon. You aren't testing people. Test people and see how many people are infected.

People aren't even testing themselves because they don't want to be quarantined in crappy government facilities. People aren't tellingaabout coronavirus deaths because they want a proper janaza.

It's disgusting. How i as a citizen know more about Pakistan condition than this munafiq shedding tears. And i don't even have to try and he cares? What a joke.

Pakistan has already become Italy because we have criminals for government. The difference is the Pakistani criminal government still won't care about containing this virus.
 
So the whole world imported this virus :rofl::big_boss:

So if the whole world becomes Kafir, you will become one too?

Just checking how much you follow other countries? Because we Pakistanis have a disgusting habit of following the bad of other countries and proudly exclaiming about it but feel rigor mortis and death when following the good of other countries and become munafiq of highest calibre crying excuses?
 
So if the whole world becomes Kafir, you will become one too?

Just checking how much you follow other countries? Because we Pakistanis have a disgusting habit of following the bad of other countries and proudly exclaiming about it but feel rigor mortis and death when following the good of other countries and become munafiq of highest calibre crying excuses?
Nobody wanted this virus n nobody imported go n first read histroy how pandemic spreads
 
Maybe he should have thought about that when importing coronavirus?
Govt committed blunders at many level,but you must know Govt can't make sense into minds of ultra-religious people,tbh one way or another it would have reached our door steps.
 

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