Pakistani clerics issue fatwa against suicide-killings.

[PeaceGen]

https://nypost.com/2018/01/16/pakistani-clerics-issue-fatwa-against-suicide-bombings/

ISLAMABAD — More than 1,800 Pakistani Muslim clerics have issued an Islamic directive, or fatwa, forbidding suicide bombings, in a book unveiled by the government Tuesday.

For years, the South Asian nation has been plagued by violence by Islamist militants, who often use suicide bombers and preach that their struggle is a holy war to impose Islamic rule.

Suicide attacks are frequently condemned as fanatical and immoral, especially when civilians are killed, but insurgents view the tactic as their most effective weapon.

Seeking to curb “terrorism” that has resulted in tens of thousands of casualties since the early 2000s, the clerics declared suicide bombings to be forbidden, or “haraam.”

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that's really good news in my opinion.

militarily futile attacks (like suicide bombings are), are bad Karma at the very least.

 

[Trisonics]

https://nypost.com/2018/01/16/pakistani-clerics-issue-fatwa-against-suicide-bombings/



that's really good news in my opinion.

militarily futile attacks (like suicide bombings are), are bad Karma at the very least.

In a glance.. maybe but they could have done better by trying to get to the root. What they tried to address is the means of which there are many. Bombing is harder to execute but driving a car into a crowd that has happened in other countries is not so difficult. Maybe I didn't read the news in full ..it's still a step FORWARD! All the best!

 

[Solomon2]

Haram is not the same as criminally punishable. Declaring something haram onlys mean that G-d punishes on judgment day, yes? Correct me if I'm wrong, but whether the offender may continue to run loose or not depends on the local culture.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Haram is not the same as criminally punishable. Declaring something haram onlys mean that G-d punishes on judgment day, yes? Correct me if I'm wrong, but whether the offender may continue to run loose or not depends on the local culture.

In our culture we don't take over peoples homes while they are sleeping. We are barbarians but even we have some honour and ethics. Cheers.

 

[Solomon2]

In our culture we don't take over peoples homes while they are sleeping. We are barbarians but even we have some honour and ethics. Cheers.

If you have to make it up then you're only pretending to honour - but in doing so you are making a strong statement about your own ethics.

 

[El Sidd]

Haram is not the same as criminally punishable. Declaring something haram onlys mean that G-d punishes on judgment day, yes? Correct me if I'm wrong, but whether the offender may continue to run loose or not depends on the local culture.

How do you suggest to punish suicide?

Collect their flesh and bones and force life back?

 

[Solomon2]

How do you suggest to punish suicide?
Collect their flesh and bones and force life back?

Fatwa isn't about suicide but suicide attacks. These almost always involve third-party enablers providing equipment, ideology, etc. Laws can be passed and prosecutions made against such people.

As for the suicide attacker too, if he survives, there may be the possibility of rehabilitation rather than execution. KSA's rehab program enrolled a surviving suicide bomber, even though his attack killed twelve people: link. (The bomber claimed he was hired to drive a tanker truck, not a truck bomb.)

 

[El Sidd]

Fatwa isn't about suicide but suicide attacks. These almost always involve third-party enablers providing equipment, ideology, etc. Laws can be passed and prosecutions made against such people.

As for the suicide attacker too, if he survives, there may be the possibility of rehabilitation rather than execution. KSA's rehab program enrolled a surviving suicide bomber, even though his attack killed twelve people: link. (The bomber claimed he was hired to drive a tanker truck, not a truck bomb.)

Unlike other countries we have zero tolerance towards terrorism.

All other facilitators break the law as well. They should be punished to death.

That rehab Program failed when one of its first graduates exploded a week after being given all clear.

 

[Solomon2]

Unlike other countries we have zero tolerance towards terrorism.

All such statements from Pakistanis usually carry a unique definition of terrorism with them so not much value there.

That rehab Program failed when one of its first graduates exploded a week after being given all clear.

Links, please.

 

[El Sidd]

All such statements from Pakistanis usually carry a unique definition of terrorism with them so not much value there.


Links, please.

We define what terrorism is. You should by now come to this conclusion.

Anyhow just google man. How lazy one can be? And you chose Propaganda to be your profession. Like kar di desi harkat kaahil hone ki.

Go give an Indian 12 pieces of silver. He will hire someone for 6 and Report back.

 

[PeaceGen]

Unlike other countries we have zero tolerance towards terrorism.

yeah, that *is* true in the major & moderate cities of Pakistan actually, according to my news analyses over the years.

All other facilitators break the law as well. They should be punished to death.

it's your jurisdiction (moderate Pakistani's jurisdiction i mean, leaders and the people together).
if you feel you need to use the death-penalty on these kinds of people, you have my support.
you're only going to execute adults anyways, are you?
adults are responsible for their own choices, we say over here in Europe (and the rest of the Western world).

That rehab Program failed when one of its first graduates exploded a week after being given all clear.

Not surprising
But at least it was tried.

 

[El Sidd]

yeah, that *is* true in the major & moderate cities of Pakistan actually, according to my news analyses over the years.




it's your jurisdiction (moderate Pakistani's jurisdiction i mean, leaders and the people together).
if you feel you need to use the death-penalty on these kinds of people, you have my support.
you're only going to execute adults anyways, are you?
adults are responsible for their own choices, we say over here in Europe (and the rest of the Western world).



Not surprising
But at least it was tried.

well my buddy the thing is we take the words Thou shall not kill quite seriously but we do not take thou shall not steal that much seriously hence the corruption problem in the region.

there is a nice little battle going on in the world that is individual rights vs collective rights.... its quite interesting to observe this as to know where the masses are heading.

as far as rehab is concerned. once you have killed a human being there is no turning back. putting these people in rehab only mess them up even more.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

So they woke up after thousands of deaths and not for the first time such fatwas are issued by clerics. Fatwas credibility is next to zero in Pakistan now.

 

[Solomon2]

We define what terrorism is. You should by now come to this conclusion.

It's not O.K. if the purpose of your re-definition is to alter what other people meant when they used the word, "terrorism".

 

[El Sidd]

It's not O.K. if the purpose of your re-definition is to alter what other people meant when they used the word, "terrorism".

and its not OK to shove your explanation of terrorism down our throats.