Pakistani Ahmadis to boycott elections to protest separate voter list

[Dalit]

Pakistan used to be a progressive society back in the 50's/60's/70's with great potential . Now look at us , Issuing fatwas , declaring people kafir , killing each other on blasphemy allegations and what not. The problem in our people is they will throw their brand of islam in your face and expect you to follow that , if you dont you will be declared kafir. There is literally no tolerance in us. Its as if we have nothing better to do all day but indulge in useless BS.

This has zero relevance with Fatwa, kafir or tolerance etc.

The Ahmadis need to stop whining. They don't qualify as Muslims. Period. You don't call an apple an orange. I am sick and tired of Ahmadi whining. They are not special. Believe in whatever you want to believe, but stop imposing your fake "Islam" on others. There is broad consensus among all factions within Islam that Ahmadis are non-Muslims. They don't adhere to basic principles of Islam. What is there left to discuss?

The demands by the Ahmadi community are therefore surreal. The election authorities have accommodated the Ahmadi community to the best of their ability. If the Ahmadis feel like boycotting the election they are free to do so. We are not going to change the definition of faith to accommodate Ahmadis. That is ludicrous and you know it.

 

[Khan_21]

This has zero relevance with Fatwa, kafir or tolerance etc.

The Ahmadis need to stop whining. They don't qualify as Muslims. Period. You don't call an apple an orange. I am sick and tired of Ahmadi whining. They are not special. Believe in whatever you want to believe, but stop imposing your fake "Islam" on others.

The demands by the Ahmadi community are therefore surreal. The election authorities have accommodated Ahmadi community to the best of their ability. If the Ahmadis feel like boycotting the election they are free to do so. We are not going to change the definition of faith to accommodate Ahmadis. That is ludicrous and you know it.

If anybody has been imposed upon, it's them. They get killed, their relatives mothers/fathers get killed. You are sitting in Netherland in comfort of your home typing away with no realization of ground realities. People have stoned them to death just because of their faith. Our founding father had no problem with them and gave them important posts in government.

And who gave you the authority define faith?Who is we here? Pakistani government?Islam inside Pakistan is not recognizable. Everybody has their own mosque and declares others as kafirs. Wahhabi proclaims barelvi as kafirs , Ahal e hadees proclaims all others kafir , Sunni calls shia kafir. Keep it up and whatever is left in this country run it to the ground.

 

[Dalit]

If anybody has been imposed upon, it's them. They get killed, their relatives mothers/fathers get killed. You are sitting in Netherland in comfort of your home typing away with no realization of ground realities. People have stoned them to death just because of their faith. Our founding father had no problem with them and gave them important posts in government.

And who gave you the authority define faith?Who is we here? Pakistani government?Islam inside Pakistan is not recognizable. Everybody has their own mosque and declares others as kafirs. Wahhabi proclaims barelvi as kafirs , Ahal e hadees proclaims all others kafir , Sunni calls shia kafir. Keep it up and whatever is left in this country run it to the ground.

The same old BS. The Ahmadis are free to practice their own faith as long as they do not interfere with Islam. I condemn all kinds of oppression subjected to any minority group, but let's not call Ahmadis Muslims because they are not. Once again, the Ahmadis should have the right to practice their unique faith in peace, but they should not impose their illegal will on the majority. Our founding fathers never practiced the definition of "Islam" propagated by the Ahmadi sect.

No one gave me the authority to define Islam, but the learned scholars along with God and his final prophet have that authority. Neither do you have the authority to define Islam. There is no ambiguity regarding the finality of prophethood. Even a layman understands that. The Ahmadi sect challenges the finality of prophethood. All streams within Islam unanimously agree that Ahmadis transgress the basic tenets of Islam. Your denial won't change that fact.

This has nothing to do with kafir, Sunni, Shia etc. This is about definition. We cannot change the definition set by Allah and his final prophet. You might as well change Islam all together. Let an apple remain an apple. Don't change it into an orange.

Now the Pak elections are being taken hostage by Ahmadis to impose their will on the majority. Won't happen.

 

[Khan_21]

The same old BS. The Ahmadis are free to practice their own faith as long as they do not interfere with Islam. I condemn any kind of oppression to any minority group, but let's not call Ahmadis Muslims because they are not. Once again, the Ahmadis shoud have the right to practice their unique faith in peace, but they should not impose their illegal will on the majority.

No one gave me the authority to define Islam, but the learned scholars along with God and his final prophet have that authority. Neither do you have the authority to define Islam. There is no ambiguity regarding the finality of prophethood. Even a layman understands that. The Ahmadi sect challenges the finality of prophethood. All streams within Islam unanimously agree that Ahmsdis transgress the basic tenets of Islam. Your denial won't change that fact.

This has nothing to do with kafit, Sunni, Shia etc. This is about definition. we cannot change the definition set by Allah and his final prophet. You might as well change Islam all together.

Do you know how many Ahmadi's/Shais/Hazaras have been killed inside Pakistan?Thousands. Inside Quetta not too long ago hazaras would get shot on daily basis and same is the situation with Shia's. Pakistan is the only state in the world which wears religion on its sleeve and not follow its true core values. We have thousands of Jahil folk inside the country who are willing to kill people based on different faith. This is about how minorities get treated not about if they are muslims or not.

 

[Dalit]

Do you know how many Ahmadi's/Shais/Hazaras have been killed inside Pakistan?Thousands. Inside Quetta not too long ago hazaras would get shot on daily basis and same is the situation with Shia's. Pakistan is the only state in the world which wears religion on its sleeve and not follow its true core values. We have thousands of Jahil folk inside the country who are willing to kill people based on different faith. This is about how minorities get treated not about if they are muslims or not.

Do you know how many Sunnis have been killed in Pakistan? Let's not get down that road. All are Pakistanis.

Stop turning this into Shia, Sunni, Ahmadi etc. Just stop imposing your will and live the way you want to live. Ahamdis won't be classified as Muslims because they simply don't adhere to the most basic tenets of Islam. There is no discussion here.

I wish the Ahmadi community in Pakistan best of luck and they have the right to exercise their Ahmadi faith. If they are subjected to hatred, killing etc. the concerned authorities need to bring the culprits to swift justice. That goes for any sect or group in Pakistan and not only Ahmadis.

 

[Khan_21]

Do you know how many Sunnis have been killed in Pakistan? Let's not get down that road. All are Pakistanis.

Stop turning this into Shia, Sunni, Ahmadi etc. Just stop imposing your will and live the way you want to live.

Sunnis have been killed but because of what? Religious bigotry, supporting militants and spreading that inside the country. It all comes down exactly to the same point, Religious intolerance/Supporting militants and spreading a false narrative of jihad which has turned an entire society into beasts. Stop supporting militants, stop giving them fodder so that we can get rid of this cancer from our society.

 

[Jackdaws]

keep you interest to your self and we know what are your interests........BTW see what is happening in India as all of your neighbors and Human Rights organizations and UN is more concerned about stability and safety of minorities in India.

Thanks for your advice. We are the ones taking in refugees from our neighbors - there are threads to this effect. Do read up.

 

[El Sidd]

I need caramel Popcorn for this

 

[newb3e]

Sometimes single vote matters

ohh another indian concerned about Pakistan!

Thanks for your advice. We are the ones taking in refugees from our neighbors - there are threads to this effect. Do read up.

ohh how cute!!

 

[Yaseen1]

it is good they not vote.their vote is not needed in Pakistan.they should be thrown out of Pakistan in to Arabian sea

 

[KAMDEV]

Dunia me kitna gum hai , mera gum kitna kum hai.

 

[Kompromat]

No big deal. They've been doing so for decades.

 

[El Sidd]

Dunia me kitna gum hai , mera gum kitna kum hai.

Is baat ki gehrayi me doob kar marja

 

[KAMDEV]

it is good they not vote.their vote is not needed in Pakistan.they should be thrown out of Pakistan in to Arabian sea

30000 pakistani hindus got long term visa, better ahmadis also come.

Is baat ki gehrayi me doob kar marja

Ha ha ha.....Ok siddi. Let me save ahmadis first .

 

[313ghazi]

If ahmadi were non muslims .. why were they counted as muslim in 1947 referendum ?

it suited our agenda then? Life is tough.