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Gwadar Port set to become key Pak and global strategic hub

Karachi, Mar.23 : Gwadar, located on the southwestern coast of Pakistan, was just a small fishing hamlet at one time, but now is set to become not only a hub of shipping and commercial and industrial activities, but also a key geo-strategic location.

Located close to the Strait of Hormuz in the Persian Gulf through which over 13 million barrels of oil pass every day, this coastal town located at the intersection of oil-rich Middle East, South Asia where one-fifth of the world's population lives and Central Asian Republics (CARs) having vast reserves of oil and minerals, is also likely to emerge as the country's most strategically-located deep-sea port.

Gwadar port, the third deep-sea port of Pakistan, may not seem to be of use to Pakistan as there is no need of a feeder port in Balochistan, yet it will have global ramifications.

Countries like Russia and China will find this port of great importance to their futuristic needs as both have so far been unsuccessful in establishing ports in hot waters.

China's decision to finance the construction of the Gwadar port and the coastal highway linking the port to Karachi will help its plans to develop western China. The distance from Kashgar to the Chinese east coast ports is 3,500 km, whereas the distance from Kashgar to Gwadar is only 1,500 km. The cost benefits to China of using Gwadar as the port for western China's imports and exports are evident.

China has no blue water navy and feels defenceless in the Persian Gulf against any hostile action to choke off its energy supplies. To cope with the new challenges, the Chinese leadership envisaged a new plan that was called by the US as "assembling a string of pearls".

Besides Gwadar, this string includes Chittagong of Bangladesh in the Bay of Bengal and Myanmar in the Indian Ocean. China has helped build the Chittagong port in Bangladesh where it is seeking an extensive naval and commercial access. In the case of Myanwar, Beijing has showered billions of dollars in military aid.

It has provided support for building several ports, road and rail links from the Chinese province of Yunnan to the Bay of Bengal, and a monitoring post on Myanmar's Coco Islands for sea traffic.

The new Chinese plans have rung alarm bells in India and the US too. India feels that it is encircled by China from three sides - Myanmar, Tibet and Pakistan. To counter Sino-Pak collaboration, India has brought Afghanistan and Iran into an economic and strategic alliance.

Following the Chinese ambitions in the region, India has pursued closer military ties with the US and issued a new naval doctrine stressing the need of protecting energy routes and responding to Beijing's inroads into the Arabian Sea.

To counter the Gwadar port that is also called the Chinese Gibraltar by Washington, India has built Chabahar port in Sistan-Balochistan province of Iran - just adjacent to Gwadar. India is also helping Iran in building a 200km road that will connect Chabahar with Afghanistan. It will provide access via land to the port for their imports and exports to and from Central Asia. Presently, India is in urgent need of a shorter transit route to quickly ship its trade goods to Afghanistan and Central Asia.

Despite the fact that the Gwadar port is meeting Chinese purposes, the US has not objected to building the sea port. President Bush sees Gwadar as an advantage rather than a threat. He is confident that Pakistan will not allow the Chinese Navy to block US trade goods on the route and inside sources believe Musharraf has made some promises in that regard.

http://story.malaysiasun.com/index.php/ct/9/cid/303b19022816233b/id/236452/cs/1/
 
How does India currently transports good to Afghanistan and Central Asia?
 
How does India currently transports good to Afghanistan and Central Asia?

At present, Pakistan allows Afghan goods to reach India through the Wagah border but India sends its goods to Afghanistan through Iran
 
At present, Pakistan allows Afghan goods to reach India through the Wagah border but India sends its goods to Afghanistan through Iran



Before we can embark on any type of transport access to INDIA-AFGHANISTAN INDIA/ and AFGHANISTAN must assure PAKISTAN that PAKISTAN'S security will not be disturbed and THEY will not conduct ANTI PAKISTAN activities eg NO chabahar port in Iran no Baluchistan violence no Durand line claims by AFGHANISTAN respect and recognition of Pakistan's sovereignty is a must and there fore cannot and will not be allowed to be compromised.:flag:
 
Very interesting. Gwadar can change the destiny of Pakistan but when will it happen? Is interesting to wait and see. Gwadar lease is also set to expire in around 5 decades.
India also has made an airbase in Tajikistan. Musharraf has also announced a new port in Balochistan and Shaukat Aziz has announced the Keti Bandar Port.The future transit route is only Pakistan for landlocked Afghanistan, Tajikistan ,Uzbekistan & Azerbaijan. Pakistan can easily persue an open policy for its transit routes and gain the maximum. India can in no way matchthe investment made by China. Pakistan in anycase is in a win win position in Afghanistan. Till the time the current instability continues to the time stability returns and Northern Alliance is out of power overturn by a democratic eletion. Pakistan is already gaining a lot from Afghanistan and the proof is cement and other exports.
 
Actually I think we should just not allow India access to Afghanistan, EVER.

India's upto no good, and Afghanistan is the best place to do what they want to do. It would be a "Aa bayl mujhe maar" type situation.
 
Actually I think we should just not allow India access to Afghanistan, EVER.

India's upto no good, and Afghanistan is the best place to do what they want to do. It would be a "Aa bayl mujhe maar" type situation.

doesnt matter,

we are supplying afghanistan thru Iran and u cant do anything about it
 
Actually I think we should just not allow India access to Afghanistan, EVER.

India's upto no good, and Afghanistan is the best place to do what they want to do. It would be a "Aa bayl mujhe maar" type situation.

I think this is a very bad position to be taken this will create more hostility between afghanistan and paksitan, india will benefit from that. We need to show the afghan people that they are our brothers and we help them any way we can .This will also earn us much needed foriegn exchange. When countries are dependent o each other for trade the likely hood of both of them going to war is greatly deminished
 
Afghan brothers hospitality is not worth it. If they can't learn to make do without dealing with a national threat, then so be it.

We need to help ourselves first. Do you think Afghan brothers are really in control? They have sham governments and militias calling the shots. Who India makes deals with is not going to be in our control and neither in Afghani control.
 
I really doubt its an effective supply. Top targets in Balochistan met a sorry fate. So I can live with that. I don't want to make it easier for your government if I was in charge.
 
It ain't effective enough as supplying directly though!:eek:

I really doubt its an effective supply.

Presently We are not supplying afghans for any economic incentives but rather for Strategic incentives..i.e. we just want to be friends with the newly resurrected afghan nation before other "actors"

But even that will change in the future...

We still have a good alternative route i.e.
Mumbai(our economic hub)/Gujarat(our textile and petroleum hub)--->Iran(Bandar abbas/Chabahar port)-->Western Afghanistan(stable compared to eastern and southeastern afghanistan)

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given that afghan's main imports are capital goods ,textiles,food and petroleum products the above route is not bad or is even better compared to the route through pakistan(where the goods have to pass through some unstable regions ...)

anyways sea routes are always much more economical compared to land routes (per Kilometer)


btw we are also buliding a 200km highway connecting Chabahar to Afghanistan
 
...and if Pakistan goes on treating Karzai or anybody else in that post on a touch-me-not basis... the present imports of Afghanistan which are skewed towards pakistan at 25% will veer towards India(which now accounts for just 5.6%) there by corresponding with the size of our economy...:bunny:
 
Your route through Iran may not last and the thing about transporting through road is, its fast.

Giving a trade route would mean giving an air route too. How are we to know what goes in? Iran might help you with the trade but I'm guessing India would not want to involve Iranian customs in a scandal with transporting illegal materials too, namely guns, bombs, etc.

To get all these things into Afghanistan India has to spend a whole lot more. Why should we make it cheaper?
 

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