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ISLAMABAD ― Pakistan has signed a contract for the construction of four Milgem/Ada-class corvettes with the Turkish state-controlled shipyard M/s ASFAT A.S. The deal, inked July 5, is part of Pakistan’s efforts to replace aged warships featuring systems nearing the end of manufacturer support, boost its conventional deterrent vis-a-vis India, and better safeguard its maritime economy and trade links.

According to a Navy news release, the contract includes “complete transfer of technology and the transfer of intellectual proprietary rights for the design of these ships to Pakistan.”

Four ships will be built ― the first two in Turkey at Istanbul Naval Shipyard, and the third and fourth in Pakistan by state-owned shipyard KSEW ― as part of the technology transfer package.
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Indigenous construction of the second pair is intended to help Pakistan’s shipbuilding industry grow and increase its contribution to the nation’s economy.

Though the Ada design features considerable Turkish-developed systems and weaponry, much is still sourced from third parties including the U.S., with whom Pakistan’s relations are presently firmly at their nadir.

Under the present climate, it’s almost certain the U.S. won’t provide clearance for the onward supply of equipment (or direct purchase via Washington); this includes the RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile, the Ada corvette’s primary air defense system.

When asked by Defense News about this situation, the Navy did not explain how it has managed to circumvent this, whether it still hopes to acquire the system, whether the service has replaced it with an alternative (possibly Chinese such as the FL-3000N/HQ-10), or whether the service will simply recycle the Phalanx CIWS from its ex-British frigates (possibly along with Harpoon anti-ship missiles if they still have shelf life remaining) until a better solution becomes available.

Author, analyst and former Australian defense attache to Islamabad Brian Cloughley says the Pakistan Navy “will avoid all U.S. equipment, if possible, on the grounds that they can have no guarantee of supply of spares, ammunition, etc. The attitude of [U.S. President Donald] Trump and Congress is such that it would be most unwise to waste time even applying for U.S. systems.

“The Chinese route seems to be the most practicable, with indigenous systems if possible.”

The use of indigenous technology appears to be firmly on the cards, as the news release says the fourth corvette “will be designed jointly by Pakistan’s Maritime Technologies Complex (MTC) and will be the first indigenously designed and constructed frigate.”

Use of the term “frigate” may imply extensive redesign is planned, possibly enlargement that adds more capable systems and weaponry, similar to Turkey further developing the Ada design into the Istanbul-class frigate.

When asked, the Navy did not clarify if this was the case, but Cloughley says it could be possible, or merely a “misnomer.”

However, an “indigenously developed missile system” will be fitted to the corvettes, (probably a reference to Pakistan’s Harba anti-ship missile), and certainly to the fourth corvette if not the others, in which case Cloughley believes Pakistan will then have “time to look around for a new SAM [surface-to-air missile].”
 
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Harba is a very potent weapon. Its range is almost twice as the Harpoon with similar performance and hit probability. From what i know the Navy will arm all of its upcoming warships with Harba including Type-54P, F-22P/MLU and Ada class. As far as the air defense system goes, there are various Chinese systems available to us and we can strip and reinstall Phalanx CIWS from our old boats.
 
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https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2...uilding-technology-transfer-deal-with-turkey/

pic_1516635434.jpg


ISLAMABAD ― Pakistan has signed a contract for the construction of four Milgem/Ada-class corvettes with the Turkish state-controlled shipyard M/s ASFAT A.S. The deal, inked July 5, is part of Pakistan’s efforts to replace aged warships featuring systems nearing the end of manufacturer support, boost its conventional deterrent vis-a-vis India, and better safeguard its maritime economy and trade links.

According to a Navy news release, the contract includes “complete transfer of technology and the transfer of intellectual proprietary rights for the design of these ships to Pakistan.”

Four ships will be built ― the first two in Turkey at Istanbul Naval Shipyard, and the third and fourth in Pakistan by state-owned shipyard KSEW ― as part of the technology transfer package.
images

Indigenous construction of the second pair is intended to help Pakistan’s shipbuilding industry grow and increase its contribution to the nation’s economy.

Though the Ada design features considerable Turkish-developed systems and weaponry, much is still sourced from third parties including the U.S., with whom Pakistan’s relations are presently firmly at their nadir.

Under the present climate, it’s almost certain the U.S. won’t provide clearance for the onward supply of equipment (or direct purchase via Washington); this includes the RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile, the Ada corvette’s primary air defense system.

When asked by Defense News about this situation, the Navy did not explain how it has managed to circumvent this, whether it still hopes to acquire the system, whether the service has replaced it with an alternative (possibly Chinese such as the FL-3000N/HQ-10), or whether the service will simply recycle the Phalanx CIWS from its ex-British frigates (possibly along with Harpoon anti-ship missiles if they still have shelf life remaining) until a better solution becomes available.

Author, analyst and former Australian defense attache to Islamabad Brian Cloughley says the Pakistan Navy “will avoid all U.S. equipment, if possible, on the grounds that they can have no guarantee of supply of spares, ammunition, etc. The attitude of [U.S. President Donald] Trump and Congress is such that it would be most unwise to waste time even applying for U.S. systems.

“The Chinese route seems to be the most practicable, with indigenous systems if possible.”

The use of indigenous technology appears to be firmly on the cards, as the news release says the fourth corvette “will be designed jointly by Pakistan’s Maritime Technologies Complex (MTC) and will be the first indigenously designed and constructed frigate.”

Use of the term “frigate” may imply extensive redesign is planned, possibly enlargement that adds more capable systems and weaponry, similar to Turkey further developing the Ada design into the Istanbul-class frigate.

When asked, the Navy did not clarify if this was the case, but Cloughley says it could be possible, or merely a “misnomer.”

However, an “indigenously developed missile system” will be fitted to the corvettes, (probably a reference to Pakistan’s Harba anti-ship missile), and certainly to the fourth corvette if not the others, in which case Cloughley believes Pakistan will then have “time to look around for a new SAM [surface-to-air missile].”
Good news and definitely Pakistan can go with Turkish and Chinese mixer.
 
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Very good news indeed . Pakistan Turkey should cooperate for developing 4000-4500 ton multi role frigate with 32 air defense vls on front and 16+/- vls on aft for long range anti ship and land attack cruise missile .
 
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Masha Allah. Alhamdulillah. Great foresight and planning shown by Navy leadership. These are truly patriotic and visionary leaders of the country. I can't write enough good words about this planning. The turnaround time is quick, the partner is reliable, they are avoiding sanction prone systems at all cost, and indigenous efforts are starting quite early.

This is how the JF-17 program should have been managed. PAC should have had an indigenous design by 2016.

@Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Bilal Khan 777 @Oscar
 
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Sultan Abdul Hamid Han had a couple of sub-marines built by hiring some European engineers 100+ years back! And, a live demo of torpedoing a ship was presented. He was raising a generation of engineers, scientists etc. to further his projects. However, that generation has got lost in 100 years of war since then. Now, all of his projects are coming to fruition!!

We need to show little more patience with the “audacity to build” of these “young and crazy” Turks...
 
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FL-3000N is the logical solution .. seems like PN will go for 3 ADA and 3 indigenous design (Jinnah class) frigates . This will fulfill the needs of frigates , next logical purchase should be type-52C or type-55 ( aegis air defense ) .

On a personal note I really hope PN would go for a dedicated sq of flankers for naval strikes .
 
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Pakistan doesn't just buy a ship, it transfers 20 years of accumulation and infrastructure. Improvement of shipyard infrastructure, staff procurement , material processing technologies and system engineering will pave the way for the Pakistani navy to build its own fully customized frigates.

The Pakistan Navy will be able to reshape these ships according to their needs and add Chinese navionic and weapon systems.

We shared these two issues with you in the forum months ago.

We will see how the two countries' common vision in the naval industry will lead to strategic gains, in near future.
 
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Very good news indeed . Pakistan Turkey should cooperate for developing 4000-4500 ton multi role frigate with 32 air defense vls on front and 16+/- vls on aft for long range anti ship and land attack cruise missile .
In some distance future... I hope Bd can join us as well and have a strong navy in bay of Bengal :)
 
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