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Yes. Particularly, when a rational discussion is almost close to impossible.
Pakistan to grant consular access to Indian spy Kulbhushan on Friday: FO
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Yes. Particularly, when a rational discussion is almost close to impossible.
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ohh yes you cant talk sense with idiots!
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It's clear that on PDF if any Pakistani is shown the mirror... then everyone else is a a troll..
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I hope Pakistan do not soft while putting terms and condition, we have seen what Indians did after Mata ji and Patni meeting. need to learn.
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I guess the Indoos need constant slaps with truth (below):
Asked for 5 - got 1, rejected 4!
FINAL SUBMISSION
BY THE REPUBLIC OF INDIA
(1) The Government of India requests this Court to adjudge and declare that, Pakistan acted in
egregious breach of Article 36 of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, 1963 (Vienna
Convention) in:
(i) Failing to inform India, without delay, of the detention of Jadhav;
(ii) Failing to inform Jadhav of his rights under Article 36 of the Vienna Convention on
Consular Relations, 1963;
(iii) Declining access to Jadhav by consular officers of India, contrary to their right to visit
Jadhav, while under custody, detention or in prison, and to converse and correspond with
him, or to arrange for his legal representation.
And that pursuant to the foregoing,
(2) Declare that:
(a) the sentence by Pakistan’s military court arrived at, in brazen defiance of the Vienna
Convention rights under Article 36, particularly Article 36 paragraph 1 (b), and in
defiance of elementary human rights of Mr. Jadhav, which are also to be given effect as
mandated under Article 14 of the 1966 International Covenant on Civil and Political
Rights (ICCPR), is violative of international law and the provisions of the Vienna
Convention;
(b) India is entitled to restitutio in integrum;
(3) Annul the decision of the Military Court and restrain Pakistan from giving effect to the
sentence or conviction in any manner, and
(4) direct it to release the Indian National, Jadhav, forthwith, and to facilitate his safe passage to
India;
5) In the alternative, and if this Court were to find that Jadhav is not to be released, then
(i) Annul the decision of the Military Court and restrain Pakistan from giving effect to the
sentence awarded by the Military Court,
or in the further alternative
(ii) direct it to take steps to annul the decision of the military court, as may be available to it
under the laws in force in Pakistan,
and in either event
(iii) direct a trial under the ordinary law before civilian courts, after excluding his confession
that was recorded without affording consular access, and in strict conformity with the
provisions of the ICCPR, with full consular access and with a right to India to arrange for
his legal representation.
Thank you.
The PRESIDENT: I thank the Agent of India, Dr. Mittal. The Court takes note of the final
submissions which you have just read on behalf of the Republic of India.
https://www.icj-cij.org/en/case/168
#2 - rejected
#3 - rejected
#4 - rejected
#5 - rejected
Asked for 5 - got 1, rejected 4!
FINAL SUBMISSION
BY THE REPUBLIC OF INDIA
(1) The Government of India requests this Court to adjudge and declare that, Pakistan acted in
egregious breach of Article 36 of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, 1963 (Vienna
Convention) in:
(i) Failing to inform India, without delay, of the detention of Jadhav;
(ii) Failing to inform Jadhav of his rights under Article 36 of the Vienna Convention on
Consular Relations, 1963;
(iii) Declining access to Jadhav by consular officers of India, contrary to their right to visit
Jadhav, while under custody, detention or in prison, and to converse and correspond with
him, or to arrange for his legal representation.
And that pursuant to the foregoing,
(2) Declare that:
(a) the sentence by Pakistan’s military court arrived at, in brazen defiance of the Vienna
Convention rights under Article 36, particularly Article 36 paragraph 1 (b), and in
defiance of elementary human rights of Mr. Jadhav, which are also to be given effect as
mandated under Article 14 of the 1966 International Covenant on Civil and Political
Rights (ICCPR), is violative of international law and the provisions of the Vienna
Convention;
(b) India is entitled to restitutio in integrum;
(3) Annul the decision of the Military Court and restrain Pakistan from giving effect to the
sentence or conviction in any manner, and
(4) direct it to release the Indian National, Jadhav, forthwith, and to facilitate his safe passage to
India;
5) In the alternative, and if this Court were to find that Jadhav is not to be released, then
(i) Annul the decision of the Military Court and restrain Pakistan from giving effect to the
sentence awarded by the Military Court,
or in the further alternative
(ii) direct it to take steps to annul the decision of the military court, as may be available to it
under the laws in force in Pakistan,
and in either event
(iii) direct a trial under the ordinary law before civilian courts, after excluding his confession
that was recorded without affording consular access, and in strict conformity with the
provisions of the ICCPR, with full consular access and with a right to India to arrange for
his legal representation.
Thank you.
The PRESIDENT: I thank the Agent of India, Dr. Mittal. The Court takes note of the final
submissions which you have just read on behalf of the Republic of India.
https://www.icj-cij.org/en/case/168
#2 - rejected
#3 - rejected
#4 - rejected
#5 - rejected
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India Asks Pakistan For "Unimpeded" Consular Access To Kulbhushan Jadhav
On Thursday, India sent a communication to Pakistan making clear its position that the consular access must be "unimpeded" and should be in the light of the judgement by the International Court of Justice or ICJ.
All India | Press Trust of India | Updated: August 02, 2019 14:18 IST
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India told Pak to give consular access in an environment free from the "fear of intimidation"
NEW DELHI:
India has asked Pakistan to provide "unimpeded" consular access to Kulbhushan Jadhav in an environment free from the "fear of intimidation" and reprisal, in sync with the ruling by the International Court of Justice in his case, official sources said today.
Earlier this week, Pakistan sent India a proposal offering consular access to Mr Jadhav on Friday.
On Thursday, India sent a communication to Pakistan making clear its position that the consular access must be "unimpeded" and should be in the light of the judgement by the International Court of Justice or ICJ.
Official sources said Pakistan's response to India's communication is now awaited.
The External Affairs Ministry on Thursday said it was evaluating Pakistan's offer of granting consular access to Kulbhushan Jadhav in the ICJ judgement in the case.
There were reports that Pakistan had put some conditions to grant consular access to Mr Jadhav, reported news agency Press Trust of India.
One of the conditions reportedly was the presence of a Pakistani official when the Indian prisoner is allowed to meet Indian officials as part of the consular access, reported Press Trust of India.
Kulbhushan Jadhav, 49, a retired Indian Navy officer, was sentenced to death by a Pakistani military court on charges of alleged "espionage" in April 2017 following which India had moved the International Court of Justice.
Following the ICJ order, India has asked Pakistan to grant full consular access to Mr Jadhav at the earliest in "full compliance and conformity" of the world court's verdict.
In its 42-page order, the court, while rejecting Pakistan's objection to admissibility of the Indian application in the case, held that "a continued stay of execution constitutes an indispensable condition for the effective review" of the sentence of Kulbhushan Jadhav.
COMMENT
The ICJ upheld India's stand that Pakistan is in egregious violation of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, 1963, on several counts in the
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ind...-consular-access-to-kulbhushan-jadhav-2079325
On Thursday, India sent a communication to Pakistan making clear its position that the consular access must be "unimpeded" and should be in the light of the judgement by the International Court of Justice or ICJ.
All India | Press Trust of India | Updated: August 02, 2019 14:18 IST
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India told Pak to give consular access in an environment free from the "fear of intimidation"
NEW DELHI:
India has asked Pakistan to provide "unimpeded" consular access to Kulbhushan Jadhav in an environment free from the "fear of intimidation" and reprisal, in sync with the ruling by the International Court of Justice in his case, official sources said today.
Earlier this week, Pakistan sent India a proposal offering consular access to Mr Jadhav on Friday.
On Thursday, India sent a communication to Pakistan making clear its position that the consular access must be "unimpeded" and should be in the light of the judgement by the International Court of Justice or ICJ.
Official sources said Pakistan's response to India's communication is now awaited.
The External Affairs Ministry on Thursday said it was evaluating Pakistan's offer of granting consular access to Kulbhushan Jadhav in the ICJ judgement in the case.
There were reports that Pakistan had put some conditions to grant consular access to Mr Jadhav, reported news agency Press Trust of India.
One of the conditions reportedly was the presence of a Pakistani official when the Indian prisoner is allowed to meet Indian officials as part of the consular access, reported Press Trust of India.
Kulbhushan Jadhav, 49, a retired Indian Navy officer, was sentenced to death by a Pakistani military court on charges of alleged "espionage" in April 2017 following which India had moved the International Court of Justice.
Following the ICJ order, India has asked Pakistan to grant full consular access to Mr Jadhav at the earliest in "full compliance and conformity" of the world court's verdict.
In its 42-page order, the court, while rejecting Pakistan's objection to admissibility of the Indian application in the case, held that "a continued stay of execution constitutes an indispensable condition for the effective review" of the sentence of Kulbhushan Jadhav.
COMMENT
The ICJ upheld India's stand that Pakistan is in egregious violation of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, 1963, on several counts in the
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ind...-consular-access-to-kulbhushan-jadhav-2079325
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India Asks Pakistan For "Unimpeded" Consular Access To Kulbhushan Jadhav
On Thursday, India sent a communication to Pakistan making clear its position that the consular access must be "unimpeded" and should be in the light of the judgement by the International Court of Justice or ICJ.
All India | Press Trust of India | Updated: August 02, 2019 14:18 IST
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India told Pak to give consular access in an environment free from the "fear of intimidation"
NEW DELHI:
India has asked Pakistan to provide "unimpeded" consular access to Kulbhushan Jadhav in an environment free from the "fear of intimidation" and reprisal, in sync with the ruling by the International Court of Justice in his case, official sources said today.
Earlier this week, Pakistan sent India a proposal offering consular access to Mr Jadhav on Friday.
On Thursday, India sent a communication to Pakistan making clear its position that the consular access must be "unimpeded" and should be in the light of the judgement by the International Court of Justice or ICJ.
Official sources said Pakistan's response to India's communication is now awaited.
The External Affairs Ministry on Thursday said it was evaluating Pakistan's offer of granting consular access to Kulbhushan Jadhav in the ICJ judgement in the case.
There were reports that Pakistan had put some conditions to grant consular access to Mr Jadhav, reported news agency Press Trust of India.
One of the conditions reportedly was the presence of a Pakistani official when the Indian prisoner is allowed to meet Indian officials as part of the consular access, reported Press Trust of India.
Kulbhushan Jadhav, 49, a retired Indian Navy officer, was sentenced to death by a Pakistani military court on charges of alleged "espionage" in April 2017 following which India had moved the International Court of Justice.
Following the ICJ order, India has asked Pakistan to grant full consular access to Mr Jadhav at the earliest in "full compliance and conformity" of the world court's verdict.
In its 42-page order, the court, while rejecting Pakistan's objection to admissibility of the Indian application in the case, held that "a continued stay of execution constitutes an indispensable condition for the effective review" of the sentence of Kulbhushan Jadhav.
COMMENT
The ICJ upheld India's stand that Pakistan is in egregious violation of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, 1963, on several counts in the
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ind...-consular-access-to-kulbhushan-jadhav-2079325
Monkey is as good as dead for Indoos. They just want to play politics and Pakistan is playing that game much better.
There was no order by ICJ to give 'unimpeded' access.
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Pakistan wants to record Jadhav's conversation with Indian officials
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ith-indian-officials/articleshow/70489517.cms
Crying started, it is up to Pakistan how where and when allow this meet.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ith-indian-officials/articleshow/70489517.cms
Crying started, it is up to Pakistan how where and when allow this meet.
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They must be demanding that Monkey is flown to India for consular access in RAW HQ!
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or do not want to get embarrassed, Bandar tamasha recorded.....that is the meeting...for indians Monkey is just being used to show 56"
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Now Pakistan has fulfilled by offering consular access on our terms. Let's see if India goes to ICJ again for 'unimpeded' access.
Time to relax and watch them cry.
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There is nothing in in the LAW stating terms and conditions. It should be accept it or reject it. Pakistan should not change any conditions put.
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Did you say beg ?? lol ...your lawyer fought to stop us from snatching the access which you denied with all your might !! I heard your lawyer stopped India from winning all other argument (PDF logic) but still he coudnt stop the access grant .
WHat I want is irrelevant but what India wanted , it got and what Pakistan never wanted is now being forced to do it,,yes you can keep him in jail while we plan our next move !! India has our hero's back !
Yes, I said "Beg". Since you emphasized that you can take things by "hook or crook". The consular access was in inevitable and we all knew that. However, as you love to brag about India's unimaginable powers, it was quite a shame not to exradite him back.
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Yes, I said "Beg". Since you emphasized that you can take things by "hook or crook". The consular access was in inevitable and we all knew that. However, as you love to brag about India's unimaginable powers, it was quite a shame not to exradite him back.
lets teach you basics... when we ask and you don't give but are forced to give when dragged to ICJ its called snatching...not begging. Its a right every country has.
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