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Pakistan to build several mega Nuclear Reactors: Report

how economical is it to reprocess waste..
I'm not sure about the cost of it but China among other countries have made strides in this field. It could be very well economical to reprocess the waste(substantial amounts of uranium can be extracted and used again)...the rest of the waste can be isolated and stored. It's not the feasibility of this that concerns me. It's the cutting of corners to reduce costs that concerns me(which happens a lot in Pak).
 
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nuclear waste can be used to develop low yield weapons
Genius Case closed.
Where will we hide the Radioactive waste?
I'm sure some members here will be volunteers to store it at their homes. Ghar le jao lol
 
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http://www.pakistaneconomist.com/20...ng-oil-import-bill-and-its-refining-capacity/

The way forward is Hydel / Nuke / Solar and Cars/Motor bikes on Electricity ,this is the only way forward since Import bill is rising and around 11 Billion

Pakistan’s import bill is likely to reach $54 billion during outgoing financial year 2016-17. However, the government has estimated to bring down the import bill to $48.9 billion in the next fiscal year. The government has estimated food imports at $5.7 billion in the year 2017-18. Similarly, the government has projected machinery import at $7.5 billion, transports group $2.7 billion, and metal group at $3.7 billion for the next financial year, according to the Annual Plan 2017-18.



Import of oil products would cost $11.1 billion to the national kitty. The break-up of oil import showed that government would import petroleum products worth $6.7 billion and petroleum crude worth of $3 billion. Meanwhile, the government would also spend huge amount worth $7.4 billion on importing agriculture and chemical goods. Similarly, the government has estimated $10.6 billion for the import of other products.
 
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How much radioactive waste do you think is created these days?


They should extract depleted uranium from waste and make armour for tanks and armored cars... like m1a2s
 
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http://www.pakistaneconomist.com/20...ng-oil-import-bill-and-its-refining-capacity/

The way forward is Hydel / Nuke / Solar and Cars/Motor bikes on Electricity ,this is the only way forward since Import bill is rising and around 11 Billion

Pakistan’s import bill is likely to reach $54 billion during outgoing financial year 2016-17. However, the government has estimated to bring down the import bill to $48.9 billion in the next fiscal year. The government has estimated food imports at $5.7 billion in the year 2017-18. Similarly, the government has projected machinery import at $7.5 billion, transports group $2.7 billion, and metal group at $3.7 billion for the next financial year, according to the Annual Plan 2017-18.



Import of oil products would cost $11.1 billion to the national kitty. The break-up of oil import showed that government would import petroleum products worth $6.7 billion and petroleum crude worth of $3 billion. Meanwhile, the government would also spend huge amount worth $7.4 billion on importing agriculture and chemical goods. Similarly, the government has estimated $10.6 billion for the import of other products.
problem is not only we are importing crude but also petro products, with such a huge oil bill,w e should have invested in petro products our self..look at india for exmaple
 
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That risk can be mitigated...however the one thing that concerns me is the nuclear waste. In a country like Pak where ppl constantly cut corners to cut costs...I'm not sure how safely they will be containing the nuclear waste.

Yea in a country where majority don't care about living near sewer sites ,The understanding of Science is quite extremely poor to the level I don't trust .
Not to mention modern nations themselves have struggled to contain nuclear waste for years.

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Subsurface disposal of nuclear waste is a proven method. Like I said, for any human activity there is an impact. It is how you mange those risks and long term liabilities is the critical ask.
Bro Its not just about radioactivity ,The risks can be from terrorism to seismic activity.

High-level nuclear waste is the inevitable end result of nuclear energy production. The waste remains radioactive and/or radiotoxic for at least 100 000 years. It is estimated that the total amount of high-level nuclear waste in the world today is between 250 000 and 300 000 tons. The amount of waste increases daily.

Here is how some countries are tackling the issue if nuclear waste:

JAPAN

For years, Japan has struggled to find a site to safely store highly radioactive waste from nuclear power plants that will remain active for as long as 100 000 years.

It seeks to continue its fuel recycling programme and envisions an underground facility that can store more than 40 000 vitrified waste cylinders, each weighing half a ton and enclosed in a thick steel canister and an additional thick layer of clay, at a site 300 meters (990 feet) underground or deeper.

The 3.5 trillion yen ($35 billion) repository is planned for launch by 2040, but a delay is likely given the lack of site candidates.

Read: 5 Important questions about Japan's nuclear disaster

Image: Diagram of a vitrified waste cylinder and how it will be stored underground. From NuclearNews.net

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UNITED STATES

A plan to dispose of spent fuel rods from commercial power plants and high-level waste from the country's weapons program at a 500-meter-deep (1 640-foot-deep) underground site at Yucca Mountain in Nevada failed in 2009 after more than $90 billion was spent.

The government is now looking at extending the use of interim "dry cask" storage for spent fuel to buy time until it can find a new site for a possible 2048 launch.

Image: Diagram of how dry cask storage works. From Thinkclimateconsulting.com.au

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FINLAND

One of the world's most successful models, a current test site, called Onkalo, which means "cave," will be used as a final repository starting around 2020 to dispose of 9,000 tons of spent fuel without reprocessing, to be stored in protective casks. The site will be located as deep as 450 meters (1 480 feet) underground on hard crystalline bedrock.

Watch: Video explaining how some countries are disposing of nuclear waste, with special focus on Finland's Onkalo project. It also mentions the documentary Into Eternity that explores the long-term ramifications of storing nuclear waste. Watch Into Eternity here.


SWEDEN

Another successful model, Sweden is expecting to start construction next year on a 500-meter (1 640-foot) - deep repository to dispose of 12 000 tons of spent fuel, without reprocessing, for a planned launch in 2029. The project has so far cost about $7.4 billion since 1990.

Image: Sketches of the underground Spent Fuel Repository at Forsmark in Söderviken, close to the Forsmark Nuclear Power Plant. Here, at a depth of approximately 500 metres in bedrock that is 1.9 billion years old, plans are underway for a final repository for some 12,000 tonnes of spent nuclear fuel. From SKB.se

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FRANCE

Experienced in fuel reprocessing, fabrication and storage of vitrified high-level waste, France has helped Japan with fuel recycling technologies.

The country has identified a candidate site near its deep underground research site in the northeast town of Bure, to be located as deep as 500 meters (1,640 feet) underground on clay bedrock. It will store vitrified waste and high-level waste from the country's fuel reprocessing program, for a planned launch around 2025.

Image: How Centre Industriel de Stockage Géologique (Cigéo) would expand underground through a natural layer of clay in Bure, France. By Andra for World Nuclear News.

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BRITAIN

The country has a fuel reprocessing policy, but not all spent fuel is expected to be recycled. Britain has not found a research venue or a final repository, though its Nuclear Decommissioning Authority has been searching since 2008. Under the current plan, Britain will dig as deep as 1,000 meters (3,300 feet) to create a repository, for a possible launch by the late 2050s.

According to an article in The Telegraph, The UK Department for Energy and Climate Change asked councils to “volunteer” to store nuclear waste four years ago, following the “Managing Radioactive Waste Safely” White Paper.

The request was met with silence, until three West Cumbrian councils suggested that they might be willing to store more waste around the existing Sellafield power station.

GERMANY

Under Germany's nuclear phase-out policy, all power stations are to be closed by around 2022. Spent fuel is being managed jointly by the utilities for interim storage until final disposal by the federal government.

Separated high-level waste from past reprocessing in France and Britain will return to Germany by 2022 for final disposal. The northern town of Gorleben's salt dome is considered a potential site for geological disposal, with a planned launch around 2035.

However, not all are in favour of the move, with environmentalists and experts warning against the dangers of transporting nuclear waste through the countryside and possible future risk of a disaster at Gorleben.

Image: Inside the Gorleben salt mine, from Spiegel.de.

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http://www.health24.com/Lifestyle/E...s-are-tackling-nuclear-waste-storage-20140715

In your home
y ? that was outa question.
 
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y ? that was outa question.
Charity begins at home :D also as you claimed that rest of the Pakistan is uneducated and lives near the sewers so it seems you're the only educated person here and will be able to cope with this waste in a good way. After all, you have been alive with so much waste in your home and brain.
 
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we should deal with those who agree for most TOT, so we can grow on our own in future..
 
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Charity begins at home :D
Nuclear charity ?No thx
Who wants to end up like Hisashi Ouchi.

Charity begins at home :D also as you claimed that rest of the Pakistan is uneducated and lives near the sewers so it seems you're the only educated person here and will be able to cope with this waste in a good way. After all, you have been alive with so much waste in your home and brain.

So nice you edit the post now .
That's funny because i never claimed I'm educated by aristotle either although I have An A-levels degree from cambridge ,I preferred to live here in PK by choice ,Even though my friends and family are abroad and i could go live there easily ,If i could want I could pack my bag and leave for Germany or the UK even today,Its not a problem.

Here even elite prefer living in sewers' go to DHA or bahria ,Ya'll can see a nice bridge connected the two over a huge sewer the size of a river.
I'm from middle class ,I lived in a middle class neighborhood for nearly 2 years in Rawalpindi,Not one place is free from broken sewers be it satellite town or even at times saddar,Instead of fixing people just walk past it yourself just reflecting the mentality I'm talking about .Expat

We live in Bahria town now ,but i would still prefer the northern area's ,Much cleaner and when we go there the local people mock us saying "We know it smells nice there" .
 
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Nuclear charity ?No thx
Who wants to end up like Hisashi Ouchi.



So nice you edit the post now .
That's funny because i never claimed I'm educated by aristotle either although I have An A-levels degree from cambridge ,I preferred to live here in PK by choice ,Even though my friends and family are abroad and i could go live there easily ,If i could want I could pack my bag and leave for Germany or the UK even today,Its not a problem.

Here even elite prefer living in sewers' go to DHA or bahria ,Ya'll can see a nice bridge connected the two over a huge sewer the size of a river.
I'm from middle class ,I lived in a middle class neighborhood for nearly 2 years in Rawalpindi,Not one place is free from broken sewers be it satellite town or even at times saddar,Instead of fixing people just walk past it yourself just reflecting the mentality I'm talking about .Expat

We live in Bahria town now ,but i would still prefer the northern area's ,Much cleaner and when we go there the local people mock us saying "We know it smells nice there" .
Thanks for your favour on us for staying in Pakistan. I would request you to tone down your rant a bit. I'm living abroad but whenever I'm Pakistan.. I praise its positive aspects despite facing a lot of issues. Bashing the whole country is not helpful. Apply your education to your writing skills first you can start by replacing the commas "," with periods "." so one can understand your message and consider that you're applying your knowledge in practical life too.
 
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no but they have russain reactors

You know exactly what I am talking about, nice try.

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi aims to advance the purchase of massive nuclear reactors and fuel from France and Canada to power a resurgent economy
 
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