Pakistan to arm fighters with Chinese BVR missiles

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Pakistan to arm fighters with Chinese BVR missiles​

BEIJING (PTI): Pakistan will buy Chinese air-to-air SD-10 missiles and avionics to arm its 250 JF-17 Thunder fighter fleet, the country's air force chief has said, amid signs that the French had spurned offer to equip them.

"Islamabad is seeking to deepen military cooperation with Beijing", Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman Chief of the Pakistani Air Force told the 'Global Times' revealing that his country may also opt to acquire other advanced defence missile systems including Chinese Surface to Air Missiles (SAM) systems.

Pakistan has opted to go in for full Chinese armament systems for the jointly developed fighters and Suleman currently on a visit to China told the paper that the advanced active radar and homing middle-range missile developed by China, called the SD-10 will become the standard Beyond Visual Range (BVR) weapon of the JF-17.

"PAF has no plans to install western devices and weapons on the aircraft for the time being", Pakistani Air Force Chief said.


'Global Times' quoting unnamed sources claimed that the French consortium has withdrawn from a reported 1.2 billion euro contract to supply radars and missiles for the first wave of 50 JF-17 fighters, after pressure from India.

French sources had reported that a joint bid had been made by French aeronautic company ATE along with Thales Group and MBDA.
The paper said that Pakistan may also buy up to four batteries of the Chinese SAM missiles.

The Pakistan Air Force Chief is currently on a visit to China to attend the Zhuhai Air Show now underway in southern China, where the JF-17s were a major attraction.

The SD-10 (ShanDian-10) is a radar guided air-to-air missile developed by China in 2002. The Red Air Force has inducted these missiles in 2007 and the ones being supplied to Pakistan would be the missiles first exports.

SD-10 is said to be a variant of Italian Aspide missiles supplied to China in late 80s.

Pakistan Air Force has a big fleet of Chinese made fighters including F-7PGs and A-5s. The medium technology JF-17 or Thunder jets manufactured jointly with China are a new addition to PAF.

Pak to arm fighters with Chinese BVR missiles - Brahmand.com

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Dont we already have SD-10? i think so.... not to forget our own H-4?

 

[farhan_9909]

So it means NRIET AESA for Jf-17II

What about the darter and IRIS-T?

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

Dont we already have SD-10? i think so.... not to forget our own H-4?

H-2/4 both are Stand off weapons not BVR missiles. Air to ground Stand off weapons.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

So it means NRIET AESA for Jf-17II

What about the darter and IRIS-T?

Expect primary and secondary weapons for this air craft. SD-10 is the first BVR AAM chosen for JF-17 and expect few more along with time.

H-2/4 both are Stand off weapons not BVR missiles. Air to ground Stand off weapons.

BVR is not only associated with AAM. H-2 H-4 are BVR Missiles but not AAM.

 

[SEAL]

PAF and other buyers will have same system?

 

[PakSher]

The air warfare will change in the coming years and BVR missiles will be the new trend. Dog fights will be reduced and dependence on BVRs will decide the results in the air superiority and air operations.

 

[AUz]

Can we integrate American BVR missile Aim-120C to JF-17 thunder??? Mean to say,Can JFT fire Aim-120C to its full range with same precision as F-16 C/D???

Thanks in Advance.!!!

 

[fatman17]

Can we integrate American BVR missile Aim-120C to JF-17 thunder??? Mean to say,Can JFT fire Aim-120C to its full range with same precision as F-16 C/D???

Thanks in Advance.!!!

not until we get a western fire-control radar! (i think)

 

[Donatello]

not until we get a western fire-control radar! (i think)

Not really, they can decode the AIM 120 computer software and maybe clone a version on the JF-17 computer?

Though i don't know if the Chinese OS and Western OS can work at the same time on the Motorola Computer that JF-17 architecture is based on.


But, why do the hassle, SD-10 can be purchased whenever, lets arm F-16s with AIM 120s.

 

[ANG]

Hi, you would also need the souce code to integrate the AAM with the fire control radar. But the problem, is the US never ever gives that to anyone, as it is classified and proprietary property. The French normally give that stuff though. Take care.

 

[Donatello]

Hi, you would also need the souce code to integrate the AAM with the fire control radar. But the problem, is the US never ever gives that to anyone, as it is classified and proprietary property. The French normally give that stuff though. Take care.

Well, knowing the computer that is there on the AIM 120 missile itself, you can know which software it runs, wipe that out and put yours in.

The problem is finding the exact kind of chip it is running which itself is going to be a huge task.

 

[mughaljee]

is this package better then french , ? (which they refused)

 

[Arsalan]

Pakistan has confirmed it will buy Chinese missiles and flight systems to equip its 250 JF-17 Thunder jet fighters as it seeks to deepen military cooperation with Beijing, state media said Thursday.

Rao Qamar Suleman, air chief marshal of the Pakistan Air Force, told the Global Times newspaper Chinese radar systems and SD-10 mid-range homing missiles would be used on the fighters co-developed by the two nations.

"PAF has no plans to install Western devices and weapons on the aircraft for the time being," the newspaper quoted Suleman as saying.

Pakistan may also buy up to four Chinese surface-to-air missiles, as it seeks stronger cooperation with China to help upgrade its armed forces, Suleman told the China Daily in a separate interview.

He made the remarks on the sidelines of the annual Zhuhai Air Show now under way in southern China.

Chinese defence experts played down the comments, saying any cooperation did not target any country and did not compare with deals adopted during a visit to India this month by US President Barack Obama, the China Daily said.

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[wali87]

Could someone please clarify on what RADAR will be complimenting the SD-10? and is it AESA ? or what?