What's new

Pakistan should recognize taliban.

dabong1

<b>PDF VETERAN</b>
Joined
Nov 28, 2006
Messages
4,417
Reaction score
1
Tuesday, March 04, 2008
Ahmed Quraishi

Why don't our American friends send a drone across the Pakistan border to kill Baitullah Mehsud, a man seen by many here as an agent of the Indians and their anti-Pakistani friends in the Kabul regime?

Nor is Mr Mehsud the only terrorist operating against Pakistan receiving support from Afghan soil. Intelligence reports indicate that several terrorists who are spreading unrest in Balochistan enjoy safe havens in Afghanistan.

If someone thinks this is the stuff of conspiracy theories, he -- or she, in the case of US ambassador to Pakistan Ann Patterson -- needs to read the book Charlie Wilson's War. Or just talk to Oliver North of Latin American fame. There is nothing fictional about the art of creating and fomenting insurgencies against governments.

To understand the game, here is a simplified and imaginary example: In 2002, we used to know about most of the possible terrorists in Pakistan's tribal region, their backgrounds and connections. In 2008, there are more of them, all claiming to be Mujahideen, and we don't know who they are, what's their background, and whose war they are fighting. Discount from this hypothetical example the number of misguided Pakistanis who naively joined this anti-Pakistan terrorism thinking it is real jihad, and the picture is complete.

Pakistan's interim interior minister, Mr Hamid Nawaz, has finally dared to say publicly what a lot of people already know. If our American friends are not stabbing us in the back, due to our real or imaginary duplicity in the war on terror, the US is certainly turning a blind eye to strong anti-Pakistan activities in a US-controlled Afghanistan.

Now is the time the interior minister went beyond his recent statement to talk about another idea that is gaining currency in Islamabad: Start talking to Afghanistan's Taliban.

One fast emerging idea is to broker a peace deal for Afghanistan. This is something that Islamabad's other two allies, the United States and the Karzai administration, have failed to do in the past six years.

Whether Lt-Gen Mushtaq Baig's Feb 25 assassination was carried out by religious terrorists or was remote-controlled by a "foreign hand" disguised as an extremist, the ball ultimately rests with Afghanistan's Taliban.

The biggest loser in the current stalemate in Afghanistan is Pakistan and not the US or NATO. Almost all the major players in the region -- the US, Afghan warlords, Iran, Russia, India, the Karzai regime -- have made some gains in the situation that emerged after 9/11. Even the Taliban are now making gains inside Afghanistan.

According to officials watching this story, outside elements are working in collusion with disgruntled local extremists, many of them apparently misguided or deliberately indoctrinated to work against the Pakistan state. This is where the Afghan Taliban enter the picture. The Afghan Taliban have so far refrained from attacking US ally Pakistan despite Islamabad's "U-turn" after 9/11.

Many Afghan war veterans in Pakistan who maintain peaceful and discreet contacts with the Afghan Taliban have conveyed messages from the Afghan militia to Pakistani border officials on several occasions. The gist of all these messages has consistently been the same: "We are not supporting the Pakistani Taliban."

The sudden rise of the "Pakistani Taliban" initially puzzled the Afghan Taliban. It could be true that the Afghan Taliban initially saw this as a welcome development that would help the cause of resisting the invaders in Afghanistan and leverage the Musharraf administration's pro-US policies. But the Afghan Taliban grew suspicious when the self-styled Pakistani Taliban, awash with money and weapons, turned their guns on Pakistan. In January, Mullah Omar withdrew recognition from Baitulah Mehsud.

To stop Afghanistan from turning into a permanent base for anti-Pakistan destabilisation activities, Pakistani officials will have to think out of the box. This will not be possible without the help of the Afghan Taliban.

The best idea to emerge is for Islamabad to declare neutrality in the war in Afghanistan. According to this idea, Pakistan could talk to both the Taliban and the Karzai administration while maintaining equal distance from both. Islamabad already has a working relationship with Kabul but will need to restore the lost relationship with the Taliban. If the Pakistani broker can establish its credentials as a neutral party, there can be hope for brokering peace between Kabul and its local enemies.

The only downside to this idea is the reaction of the United States. And we have seen the first sign of it in the reaction of the US embassy in Islamabad to the statement of our interior minister. Ambassador Patterson dismissed the minister's statement as simply "untrue." She needs to explain why the US Department of State continues to refuse to designate the so-called Balochistan Liberation Army a terrorist organisation, the way London did.

One more question to Ms Patterson: Will the US forces help us seal the border from the Afghan side if the Pakistanis decide to launch a major military operation to wipe out the anti-Pakistan terrorists from the border region? Will her government help us by giving us access to drones, satellites and night-vision equipment?

With the newly elected federal parliament preparing to take over in the next few days, hopes are growing that Pakistan's Afghan policy will finally be freed from US blunders in Afghanistan.



The writer is a talk-show host.

Email: aq@ahmedquraishi.com
 
.
One thing people easily forget is that using irregular militant groups by government is a time honored tradition that spans all continents and cultures :chilli:

Military powers since the dawn of times have supported irregular terrorist militias in addition to their regular armed forces. The ancient terror groups like the Jewish Sicarii ,the Shia Hashshashin and Hindu Maurya's shadows were just one of many groups regular government used as proxies, but just like the neo-taliban these groups have their own agendas which at times ran opposite to their main benefactors and resulted in armed conflicts. Therefore the trick is to minimize conflicting points, find compromises and enhance trust (all covertly and implicitly off course hehe). Play your cards right and you might have one less border to worry about. Everything is fair is love and war :smitten:
 
.
Yes it is now time for Pakistan to have two pronged strategy, wipe out Mehsud and neutrally play with in Afghanistan. On the US fron we might get some uneasiness but we ll have to get over with it once and for all.
 
.
The author makes a fundamental error - he fails to ask the question that does the US have the force level to 'seal' the border?

'Seal the border' is a catch all used by civilians day dreamers.

It is never possible to seal any border and more so a mountainous one!

If that were so possible, then there would be no infiltrators coming into Kashmir and the insurgency in Kashmir would have vanished!
 
.
The US cant seal her wn border with mexico or canada properly. Mexican civillians cross over illegally everyday. American and Canadian criminals often cross the US-Can border illegaly to avoid being caught in their own country. So if USA cant seal her own borders, how will they seal the afghan-pak border?
 
.
The US cant seal her wn border with mexico or canada properly. Mexican civillians cross over illegally everyday. American and Canadian criminals often cross the US-Can border illegaly to avoid being caught in their own country. So if USA cant seal her own borders, how will they seal the afghan-pak border?

I agree with you. The U.S. border is also a bit more stable but their broder cant be sealed. The Pakistani border is very unstable gepgraphically and it is even harder to seal that but we are trying our best, gut I doubt that the border will ever be sealed 100%.
 
.
The Predator UAVs are being used by the Americans and Pakistanis from the Pakistani soil for the war against "terrorism" already... no need to cross the border and waste the expensive fuel. ;)
 
.
US can’t seal Pak-Afghan border, the only solution which I thinks should be the diplomacy. Initially we need to convince US that the Afghan Pashtoon areas have strong ties with Pakistan hence they should be controlled by Pakistan and they can control the non-Pushtoon areas. This will surely improve the situation since sooner or later we have to take action in Afghanistan. Then after controlling these areas we should try to bring Taliban in the main political stream they can raise their Islamic voice politically and violence should be avoided.
 
.
Thats what I ve always said that the real problem is the US presence in Afghanistan.

Instability in balochistan.
terrorism and so called Pakistani taliban .


are all SUPPORTED by whosoever is sitting in Afghanistan (India,USA,UK,NATO,Israel).


Afghan taliban are good People .They are in our interests.They are fighting against our enemies .


Mullah omar clearly said that "We have no links or ties with baitullah mehsud and fighting against a muslim country is not against our policy"

If people like Fazlullah and Baitullah are really TALIBAN and JIHADIS then they should take their guns and get the hell out of pakistan and go into AFGHANISTAN and KICK the *** of NATO and INDIAN CONSULATES.
 
.
Thats what I ve always said that the real problem is the US presence in Afghanistan.

Instability in balochistan.
terrorism and so called Pakistani taliban .


are all SUPPORTED by whosoever is sitting in Afghanistan (India,USA,UK,NATO,Israel).


Afghan taliban are good People .They are in our interests.They are fighting against our enemies .


Mullah omar clearly said that "We have no links or ties with baitullah mehsud and fighting against a muslim country is not against our policy"

If people like Fazlullah and Baitullah are really TALIBAN and JIHADIS then they should take their guns and get the hell out of pakistan and go into AFGHANISTAN and KICK the *** of NATO and INDIAN CONSULATES.

If Mullah Omar has said that he has no links with Fazullah and Baitullah, then why should ke not take action against them?

Interesting, what?
 
.
If Mullah Omar has said that he has no links with Fazullah and Baitullah, then why should ke not take action against them?

Interesting, what?


Sir you are suggesting that Mullah Umer should cross over to Pakistan to take action against Baituillah and Fazlullah ???????????????

:) Why he should?. Pakistan is already taking action against these terrorists sponsored by outsiders.
 
.
Yes it is now time for Pakistan to have two pronged strategy, wipe out Mehsud and neutrally play with in Afghanistan. On the US fron we might get some uneasiness but we ll have to get over with it once and for all.
i wish it was that easy, but the more aid we receive, by the way which is in the form of loans, the more we have to do in this war. besides, mehsud should be eliminated as soon as possible, i like to scold the army for taking so long. the rest of the groups in those areas have nothing to do with the attacks.
 
.
Sir you are suggesting that Mullah Umer should cross over to Pakistan to take action against Baituillah and Fazlullah ???????????????

:) Why he should?. Pakistan is already taking action against these terrorists sponsored by outsiders.

What logic!!!! :woot:

Does Mullah Omar carry out every single AQ action himself? :tsk:

Why should he?

Because these two are, as per him, are in no way connected and that they are misusing his umbrella!
 
.
What logic!!!! :woot:

Does Mullah Omar carry out every single AQ action himself? :tsk:

Why should he?

Because these two are, as per him, are in no way connected and that they are misusing his umbrella!

hmmmm i think i agree with your suggetion specially the reason why he should take action agianst Baitullah.

But i dont think so it is feasible at the moment as Umer better concentrate in his own country.

Plus the powers behind Baitullah are stronger than Umer.

So lets wait for appropriate time
 
.
This is by the way interesting that we hear every now and then by our government that Mehsud is behind everything that is going wrong inside pakistan from suecide attacks to the murder of BB, yet somehow they always comeup short of acting against him or for that matter Mehsud tribe. Why is double standards being shown here, its beyond understanding. One thing is for sure that if we believe US is going to do so for our sake, we are so sadly mistaken. Every country has their own interets and priorities and killing Mehsud isnt for sure one of them so far.
 
.

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom