Pakistan seeks information on Indian Army’s exercise in Rajasthan

[Raftaar]

Wat ever my pak frds post, truth remains u lost half of Pakistan in 1971 .....

Instrument of surrender signed by General niazi
A picture speaks a 1000 words !!!

In 1987 , strategic Siachen was lost !

Still not satisfied

 

[The-king]

numerical superiority!!?? according to whom?? according to your army propaganda, which was released to save face of unprofessional pakistan army??
indian army strength was 3000 and pakistan army had 26000 soldiers...

lol... look who is taking...
in Operation Zarb-e-Azb your military brought both navy and air force along with army to fight some ill equipped and ill trained rebels who are pakistani citizens. ... now you are crying that India brought AF to bomb pakistan army soldiers in kargil?? your failed army chief Mr. Musharraf try to back-stab us by 1st ask for peace talk and same time covertly send his expendable army soldiers to die in the mountains.
lol.. we maintain such large air force for bombing the enemy.. not for spreading propaganda and imaginary victory like Pakistan air force do.

tiger hill is with india. only time your army was able to take control was in 1999, that too at the time there was no indian army soldiers there.

feeling proud of sponcering terrorism??

The gentleman in thsi video is laying or gen Araora / Sam what he is sayaing every word contradict what Arora and sam said. Conclusion he is laying.

 

[Imran Khan]

What could be reason of concerns? It's just 35000 people.

we have mutually agreed protocol and details india sheared are not enough so we asked more . nothing to be worry its normal

Pakistan has been informed as per pact about this winter exercise. what else they wish to know why this exercise is being done ?

sure they have some questions janab

 

[Raftaar]

I agree with you

 

[illusion8]

I apologize i wrote it wrong actually it's 1:11 or regular 1:9
Dear kiddo,
Bangladesh : untold facts by Shariful Haqu Dalim
Dalim was a Major in Pakistan Army at time of 1971,he was very close officer of Col:Attaul Ghani Usmani of Mukti Bahni.
He writes in his above book:
"Indian Army came with 0.5 million troops,Indian Army started shelling Pakistani Positions in Nov to assists Mukti's in infiltration.At the out break of war India deployed 0.5 million troops and 278 aircraft in Eastern Theater, 0.2 million Mukti's were acting as Spearhead.Number of Pakistani troops was 1 complete division with heavy weapons and other all units with small Arms,that put PA strength at 45000 regular.There were 55000 irregular which put there strength at 0.1 million."
Now please sir, enlight me on your above claim of strength.

As the common pakistani saying of that time goes -

The defense of the East lies in the west.

.sanctioned and available Indian soldiers back in 71 would have been closer to .8 million.

The Indian war planners must have been pretty stupid to deploy .5 million troops against 45,000 troops and leave .2 million troops to face the .5 million pakistani troops and other irregulars on the western sector..not to forget the pa's strike corps and other inventories available in West pakistan.

Or, yahya khan and his generals were stupid enough to nor utilise this numerical advantage PA had in the west to barge into Punjab and other Indian sectors to overwhelm with such an advantageous position. They could very well have forced a IA retreat from the eastern sector...but the IA won on both sectors incidentally.

Both of them weren't stupid. ..so this Major is most certainly lying through his ***.

Every unit and it's numbers who went
onto which sector has been well documented on both sides in war journals.

 

[Ind4Ever]

lolzzz.........Because last time in 1965,you were dreaming of having tea in gymkhana Lahore but that never happened,then again in 1971 you only dared to fight with numerical superiority of 1:70.
In kargil you brought Air force to deal with small Arms carrying soldiers.
In 2002 you came like Tiger,but went back with tail in legs like a dog.
In 2008 you again came and went back in way as you came in 2002,you can only win if there is another Yahya and Mukti bahni.

Haha another misinformed member. 1965 1971 2002 yeah poor India happy?

How do u even came to this conclusion that your views can change real history which had happened already and done!!! Over!!! ???

Fighting tilling the end?

 

[Last Samuri]

ITS GOOD FOR PAKISTANI TOO

They pick up useful tit bits of info on how india will CONDUCT lightening strikes 50km deep into pakistan in ten diffrent zones all at the same time

 

[Sine Nomine]

As the common pakistani saying of that time goes -

The defense of the East lies in the west.

.sanctioned and available Indian soldiers back in 71 would have been closer to .8 million.

The Indian war planners must have been pretty stupid to deploy .5 million troops against 45,000 troops and leave .2 million troops to face the .5 million pakistani troops and other irregulars on the western sector..not to forget the pa's strike corps and other inventories available in West pakistan.

Or, yahya khan and his generals were stupid enough to nor utilise this numerical advantage PA had in the west to barge into Punjab and other Indian sectors to overwhelm with such an advantageous position. They could very well have forced a IA retreat from the eastern sector...but the IA won on both sectors incidentally.

Both of them weren't stupid. ..so this Major is most certainly lying through his ***.

Every unit and it's numbers who went
onto which sector has been well documented on both sides in war journals.

The total strength of Indian Army at that time was above 1 million,that major Dalim was instrumental in everything.

 

[vsdave2302]

What could be reason of concerns? It's just 35000 people.

May be cold start excercise.

lolzzz.........Because last time in 1965,you were dreaming of having tea in gymkhana Lahore but that never happened,then again in 1971 you only dared to fight with numerical superiority of 1:70.
In kargil you brought Air force to deal with small Arms carrying soldiers.
In 2002 you came like Tiger,but went back with tail in legs like a dog.
In 2008 you again came and went back in way as you came in 2002,you can only win if there is another Yahya and Mukti bahni.

Hummmmm In 1971 71000 Pakistani soldiers surrendered to 15000 numerical superiors soldiers of India.

 

[illusion8]

The total strength of Indian Army at that time was above 1 million,that major Dalim was instrumental in everything.

It was closer to 0.8 million active and available. .For your knowledge - There is a large number non combatants too in an army, the one's that hold a pen or a rolling pin or a syringe or a spanner for e.g.

 

[hkdas]

The gentleman in thsi video is laying or gen Araora / Sam what he is sayaing every word contradict what Arora and sam said. Conclusion he is laying.

he is contradicting any thing.. and he don't need to lie because he knows the ground situation better than sam manekshaw. he was there when pakistan army surrender. he force pakistan army general to surrender.

Read post -20 to understand the critical situation, after issuing threats, the bubble burst.

wiki link is not reliable. anyone can edit the wiki..

There were 0.5 million Indian troops and 0.2million Mukti's,if you have time read any book written by an Indian Army officer who fought there.
These two Bengali Gentleman, who were alive and healthy at that time can shed light on this numerical topic.
@asad71 @Md Akmal

Lt Gen(Retd) Jacob was commanding officer of indian army in 1971 war. he knows the exact strength of indian army in 1971 war than a foot soldier of Mukthibahini.
pakistan army officer/soldiers turned Mukthibahinis don't have any control or any information on the number of indian army troops deployed in 1971.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

At this time---the rivers are flowing with very little water and are easier to cross.

So---pretty much this is the best time to make a strike. As threats have already been hurled----it will be a matter of concern.

 

[Sine Nomine]

It was closer to 0.8 million active and available. .For your knowledge - There is a large number non combatants too in an army, the one's that hold a pen or a rolling pin or a syringe or a spanner for e.g.

It was more then that ready for war+the one's you mentioned are required to be combat ready+all strength shown is not exact.Indian wasn't naive to just relay on 0.8 million men after 1962,1965 & 1967.when she was expecting war on both fronts after 1965.

 

[The-king]

he is contradicting any thing.. and he don't need to lie because he knows the ground situation better than sam manekshaw. he was there when pakistan army surrender. he force pakistan army general to surrender.

Indian are Indians always to proving this gentleman correct you are telling me Field Marshall Sam and General Arora was wrong waoo that is great excellent. But even in neutral history books you find that 3000 troops near Dhaka and 300000 troops waiting outside to attack surrounded Pakistan army and the civilians and believe me Pakistan army can fight more then 6 month but in that case civilian casualties would be more to save civilians and the families of armed forces they surrendered.
Regards,

 

[Sine Nomine]

Lt Gen(Retd) Jacob was commanding officer of indian army in 1971 war. he knows the exact strength of indian army in 1971 war than a foot soldier of Mukthibahini.
pakistan army officer/soldiers turned Mukthibahinis don't have any control or any information on the number of indian army troops deployed in 1971.

Please Quote Me when you have gone through........
Surrender at Dacca : birth of a nation...By JFR Jacob