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Lingering Cold War animosities between Russia and Pakistan seem to be residing, with both regional heavyweights looking to improve bilateral relations.

A sign of the warming ties came in the form of a landmark announcement this week by Pakistan's National Security Committee, which, for the first time, named the strengthening of the country's relations with Russia as one of its top foreign policy recommendations.

The recommendation, which was swiftly approved by the Pakistani parliament, signified growing support for closer ties between Moscow and Islamabad.

But it did not stop there. Pakistan Foreign Office spokesman Abdul Basit confirmed that Vladimir Putin, early in his third term as president, plans to travel to Islamabad for high-level talks in September -- a first for a Russian head of state.

Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari paved the road for Putin's visit, which has not been confirmed by Russian officials, last year when he made the first official visit of a Pakistani head of state to Moscow in almost 40 years.

Not long ago, such occasions would have been unthinkable. Russia's staunch support for Pakistan's arch-rival, India, was a thorn in relations. So, too, was Pakistan's support for Afghan mujahedin rebel groups who fought the Soviet Union during its 10-year occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s.

But much has changed since then in South Asian politics.

Relations between long-term allies Pakistan and the United States have hit a low. The U.S.'s decision in May 2010 to enter Pakistan to conduct a raid on Osama bin Laden's compound without informing that country's authorities caused outrage, as did the deaths of over 28 soldiers in a U.S. drone attack in November that led Pakistan to close all its Afghan supply routes to NATO.

Some observers have been quick to point out a strategic shift in Pakistan's foreign policy toward the United States, while others insist that ties between Moscow and Islamabad have deepened as a result of Pakistan's widening rifts with Washington.

Rustam Shah Mohmand, Pakistan's former ambassador to Afghanistan, however, does not read too much into the situation.

"Possibly relations with Russia will strengthen a [little bit] after Putin's visit. [Pakistan] should have strengthened its relations with Russia long ago," Mohmand says. "This visit will likely increase trade, political contacts, but it does not mean that it can bring about change to Pakistan's foreign policy vis-a-vis the United States."

One particular source of concern for Pakistan has been the burgeoning relationship between India, Pakistan's neighbor and main rival, and the United States.

In recent years, India and the United States have held joint military exercises in the Indian Ocean, while a multibillion-dollar defense deal is on the cards as part of the new booming strategic relationship.

Sartaj Aziz, Pakistan's former foreign minister, says Russia may be forging stronger ties with Pakistan in order to capitalize on the rift in U.S.-Pakistan ties.

"As you know, India's relations had expanded with the United States, although it [India] had good ties with Russia," Aziz says. "It is no longer like the Cold War, obviously Russia is watching the Pakistan-U.S. tension and [might be thinking of restoring] some balance."

Whether or not Russia and Pakistan might become strategic partners is open to debate. But what is certain is that the two countries are aiming to forge greater economic ties, especially in the field of energy.

Russia has indicated its willingness to get involved in the proposed TAPI pipeline project that is envisioned to transport gas from Turkmenistan to Afghanistan and on to Pakistan and India.

The pipeline, if built, could bring much needed gas to energy-starved India and Pakistan.

Russian investors are also interested in the Thar coal project in Sindh Province, which would involve developing a large energy complex with a capacity of producing 6,000 megawatts of coal-based electricity.


Pakistan, Russia Make Nice
 
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Well its good for both India and Pakistan as Russia can exert influence and help maintain peace.

Russia Pakistan strategic relationship is a possibility but only if India and Pakistan permanently sort out their disputes until then its just Trade that would dominate.
 
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Well its good for both India and Pakistan as Russia can exert influence and help maintain peace.

Russia Pakistan strategic relationship is a possibility but only if India and Pakistan permanently sort out their disputes until then its just Trade that would dominate.

Its called politics my dear.... its not just trade.... russia isnt ussr anymore nor india is as important geopolitically or strategically to usa,russia,china or any great power as is Pakistan...
 
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^ Finally a post that is actually level minded.

Pakistan can get investments from the Russian KGB, *ahem*, I mean billionaires.

I wonder about Russian Coal plants. How well designed are they? Output.
 
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@ Pak National: I was referring to navtrek.

Although his/ her peace then trade causality doesnt make sense. Its usually trade then peace that happens. For example, the USSR and USA traded with each other and so did France and Germany after WW2.
 
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We should keep good relations with all powers near home..even if they dont meet our immediate interests.
Thinking of the mohallah gujjar..nobody like him..but at time of need..he is the "bhai" of every girl in the mohallah!
 
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Enlighten me.

ur thinking is at a very low level.

ur wrong because u think pakistan is at the epicentre of a war in afghan makes it a very imp player.loll pakistan's contribution to world economy and politics is tiny insignificant. russia wants to play in pakistan just like usa and india are doing in balouchistan.

todays relations are based predominantly on trade and development, scientific institutions, multi billion infrastructure projects and pakistan has none of them and prolly wont have for next 10 yrs. it only offers the world a warzone to play and a market to sell their weapons. grow up buddy and think bigger.
 
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Pakistan has realized that its anti-Soviet policies to appease the US were misguided and against its long term interests. Now that Pakistan has been time and again presented with the evidence that the USA is nobody's friend and totally unreliable, it is time for Pakistan to make things right with Russia. Russia is a lot closer to Pakistan geographically than the US.

I am a strong supporter of China-Pakistan-Russia Partnership.
 
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ur thinking is at a very low level.

ur wrong because u think pakistan is at the epicentre of a war in afghan makes it a very imp player.loll pakistan's contribution to world economy and politics is tiny insignificant. russia wants to play in pakistan just like usa and india are doing in balouchistan.

todays relations are based predominantly on trade and development, scientific institutions, multi billion infrastructure projects and pakistan has none of them and prolly wont have for next 10 yrs. it only offers the world a warzone to play and a market to sell their weapons. grow up buddy and think bigger.

This analysis is correct upto the point regarding Russia wanting to play it's game,
sure that is how it is, Russia wants to play their game and we want to play our game.
As long as the two are aligned both are good.

As for the rest of post menstrual bickering that your average upbringing and lower than usual self esteem forced out.
Would you risk the scare of applying the same formula to all the countries Hindu-stan is courting with these days ?

Would you be a good boy, and try to explain how come Hindu-stan has been run over by foreign armies and then made a humble subject.
 
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This analysis is correct upto the point regarding Russia wanting to play it's game,
sure that is how it is, Russia wants to play their game and we want to play our game.
As long as the two are aligned both are good.

As for the rest of post menstrual bickering that your average upbringing and lower than usual self esteem forced out.
Would you risk the scare of applying the same formula to all the countries Hindu-stan is courting with these days ?

Would you be a good boy, and try to explain how come Hindu-stan has been run over by foreign armies and then made a humble subject.

hmm well i thought i amde myself clear. i dont think that pakistan has anything to offer to russia.

after the soviet collapsed, their economy was destroyed. they lost over 70% of it. now russia is again becoming a bigger power. their economy is growing and they want to show the world they can face the united states again because they still have a strong military.

they can do it supporting iran and pakistan and going against usa and if usa attacks iran russian planes could be present there. :tup:
investment :rofl:. what will russia invest in pakistan. i have never heard anyone investing a single doll in pakistan. best of luck attracting russian investments lol. even china backed out after investing 186 million in gawdar port.

moreover russia will not sell any military hardware to pakistan, india will object if it did and russia cant lose india for pakistan. not a fair deal right. :)

about india, our relations are now more on trade and development than defence. we now in process of building everything ourselves and within this decade we wil be almost self sufficient. we might not need russia after 2020.
 
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Enlighten me.

Russia dont need paksitan but you need russia.You said india is not important for russia.
FYI,Paksitan is desperate to bring russia here to fill the gap of U.S since china is not in position and they cant do even.
Russia will bring more stabilty in region and is the only country which can threaten U.S presently ;)
Pakistan cant give anything to Russia or offer to russia.Iran has a lot to offer but still they refused to give weapons to them ;)
Russia entry in paksitan is very good news for india.Earlier india was alone to deal with china and paksitan but now we have russia too.;)

You need russia badly and we can inspire them to pressurize you ;)

and on other hand,we have good relations with U.S too which is not going to leave region or a-stan till next 10 yrs atleast ;)

Your low IQ and retarded indian mentality wouldnt understand geo politics and the great game currently being played in the region... better go and take a nap..

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