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Pakistan rejects BRICS' statement on militant groups

Ok Mr High IQ , Please explain why on earth your COAS has rejected U.S. statement ?

Is it the job of FO or ISPR ?

If your Defence Minister rejects then it is to defame your establisment and it your Forces rejects then it is safeguarding your National interest

COOL 8-)

US blamed Pakistan, BRics didnt mentioned Pakistan at all, nor they said that Pakistan is aiding them like US did. cant you low IQ bharati understand the difference?

if they didnt blamed us we have no reason to defend oursleves, its like begani shadi main Abdullah diwana.

anyways what BSI among BRICS mean for us? nothing, we value our partnership with China and Russia.
 
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where i said he know more or less, what i questioned is whether Brics blamed us or not, named us or not?
It's worse than that: the Declaration was very specific:


"...We strongly condemn terrorist attacks resulting in death to innocent Afghan nationals. There is a need for immediate cessation of violence. We reaffirm our support to the people of Afghanistan in their efforts to achieve "Afghan-led and Afghan-owned" peace and national reconciliation, to the ongoing international efforts...We support the efforts of the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces in fighting terrorist organizations.

"We, in this regard, express concern on the security situation in the region and violence caused by the Taliban, ISIL/DAISH, Al-Qaida and its affiliates including Eastern Turkistan Islamic Movement, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, the Haqqani network, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammad, TTP and Hizb ut-Tahrir.


"We deplore all terrorist attacks worldwide, including attacks in BRICS countries, and condemn terrorism in all its forms and manifestations wherever committed and by whomsoever and stress that there can be no justification whatsoever for any act of terrorism. We reaffirm that those responsible for committing, organizing, or supporting terrorist acts must be held accountable. Recalling the primary leading role and responsibility of states in preventing and countering terrorism, we stress the necessity to develop international cooperation, in accordance with the principles of international law, including that of sovereign equality of states and non-interference in their internal affairs. We reaffirm solidarity and resolve in the fight against terrorism, value the 2nd BRICS Counter-Terrorism Working Group Meeting held in Beijing on 18 May 2017, and agree to strengthen our cooperation.

We call upon all nations to adopt a comprehensive approach in combating terrorism, which should include countering radicalization, recruitment, movement of terrorists including Foreign Terrorist Fighters, blocking sources of financing terrorism including, for instance, through organized crime by means of money-laundering, supply of weapons, drug trafficking and other criminal activities, dismantling terrorist bases, and countering misuse of the Internet including social media by terrorist entities through misuse of the latest Information and Communication Technologies (ICTs). We are committed to prevent and counter the growing spread of terrorist narratives, and to tackle all sources, techniques and channels of terrorist financing. We call for swift and effective implementation of relevant UNSC Resolutions -"
This is an ultimatum in all but name: a message that this is Pakistan's last chance to change course without at the very least "losing face", as the Chinese put it. The bit about "sovereign equality of states" and citing UN obligations and what are the terms UNSCR 1373 (which limits such sovereignty) is a kind of line in the sand.

As German newspaper Deutsche Welles puts it:

Pakistan's foreign policy in a nutshell: As long as China is backing us, we don't have to worry about the United States or the rest of the world.

But China is not backing Pakistan's policies any more. Now what will Pakistan's policymakers do?

One more thing: this game of foreign leaders saying one thing publicly and then Pakistani leaders claiming to their own people that foreign leaders reversed themselves in private conversations [link] is also a driver in Pakistan's diplomatic isolation: no foreign official can have any assurance that a private conversation with a Pakistani official won't be mis-represented. So the dirty laundry has to be discussed in the open, putting a premium on posturing and egos. Not a good thing. Perhaps ordinary Pakistanis and the Pakistani media can do something to lower tempers by not taking such claims at face value and calling their officials to account?
 
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It's worse than that: the Declaration was very specific:


"We, in this regard, express concern on the security situation in the region and violence caused by the Taliban, ISIL/DAISH, Al-Qaida and its affiliates including Eastern Turkistan Islamic Movement, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, the Haqqani network, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammad, TTP and Hizb ut-Tahrir.

How superbly specific. It has Bharati tourette syndrome written all over it. Half of these are CIA created groups. Who's dirty laundry is this exactly?

China was releasing statements warning India not to use this as a ranting platform, so as far as Pakistan is concerned, Chinas position is very clear already.

Modi did what we already expected.​
 
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This is an ultimatum in all but name: a message that this is Pakistan's last chance to change course without at the very least "losing face", as the Chinese put it. The bit about "sovereign equality of states" and citing UN obligations and what are the terms UNSCR 1373 (which limits such sovereignty) is a kind of line in the sand.

That's your analysis, i dont think China or Russia even know who the fvck LeT and JeM or when they last time attack any country, they are as indifferent to them as Indian using Afghan soil for terrorism in Pakistan. their main concerns are ISIS, Al Qaeeda and ETIM. you wont see Russian or Chinese media making big fuss out of it, its only your Indian allies who are celebrating condemnation of already designated Islamic/Kashmiri nationalists organization by UN such as LeT. other then that its clear to China and Russia that Pakistan has accepted US and UN mediation offer related to Kashmir dispute but its your bharati allies which are running from any permanent solution..

Pakistan's foreign policy in a nutshell: As long as China is backing us, we don't have to worry about the United States or the rest of the world.
But China is not backing Pakistan's policies any more. Now what will Pakistan's policymakers do?

DW is anti Pakistan source, again your analysis, China will remain as indifferent to it as they are to Indian state sponsored terrorism against Kashmir and Pakistanis. you are talking about China which few days ago defended Pakistan against Trump' statement and applauded Pakistan's effort against terrorism.

foreign leaders
i am sure other then modi they even dont know who the fvck those groups are, they just condemned them bcoz they were designated by UN.

you have to accommodate the participant somewhere in the statement, and they just did, you are taking it too seriously..
 
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China was releasing statements warning India not to use this as a ranting platform, so as far as Pakistan is concerned, Chinas position is very clear already...​
This is a joint declaration and includes China's signature. @KN-1

Note: there is one more possibility, that Pakistan has changed course already in word and deed but this is not yet obvious outside of government circles. Therefore the U.S., China, India, etc. now all feel comfortable issuing "tough" statements to reap public gains, secure in the knowledge that doing so no longer risks pushing Pakistan outside their common interest.
 
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US blamed Pakistan, BRics didnt mentioned Pakistan at all, nor they said that Pakistan is aiding them like US did. cant you low IQ bharati understand the difference?

Isn't it obvious, whole world including Indians are having low IQ

Only guys like you can decipher the diplomatic language of the adopted resolution :pakistan:

China will remain as indifferent to it as they are to Indian state sponsored terrorism against Kashmir and Pakistanis. you are talking about China which few days ago defended Pakistan against Trump' statement and applauded Pakistan's effort against terrorism.

If China really says one thing and does the other like you mentioned, then shouldn't you be a bit worried ?
 
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This is a joint declaration and includes China's signature. @KN-1

Note: there is one more possibility, that Pakistan has changed course already in word and deed but this is not yet obvious outside of government circles. Therefore the U.S., China, India, etc. now all feel comfortable issuing "tough" statements to reap public gains, secure in the knowledge that doing so no longer risks pushing Pakistan outside their common interest.

i dont mind their signature on it as long as they dont mention Pakistan..

no one will cry on LeT and JeM, they dont matter to us at all.
 
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India is burning all its energy to officially endorse Pak a terrorist country to prolong its rule in Kashmir... Indian has good strategy they are fight on 3 fronts.
1. Insurgency through Afghanistan inside Pakistan. Supporting terrorist elements like exiled Nawabs of Baluchistan and people type Altaf Hussain using mohajir card or MQM.
3. Running anti Pak lobby in Washington.
3. Using all international platform to address Pakistan a terrorist supporting country. BRICS

But, it really worked yet ?
 
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It's worse than that: the Declaration was very specific:


"...We strongly condemn terrorist attacks resulting in death to innocent Afghan nationals. There is a need for immediate cessation of violence. We reaffirm our support to the people of Afghanistan in their efforts to achieve "Afghan-led and Afghan-owned" peace and national reconciliation, to the ongoing international efforts...We support the efforts of the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces in fighting terrorist organizations.

"We, in this regard, express concern on the security situation in the region and violence caused by the Taliban, ISIL/DAISH, Al-Qaida and its affiliates including Eastern Turkistan Islamic Movement, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, the Haqqani network, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammad, TTP and Hizb ut-Tahrir.


"We deplore all terrorist attacks worldwide, including attacks in BRICS countries, and condemn terrorism in all its forms and manifestations wherever committed and by whomsoever and stress that there can be no justification whatsoever for any act of terrorism. We reaffirm that those responsible for committing, organizing, or supporting terrorist acts must be held accountable. Recalling the primary leading role and responsibility of states in preventing and countering terrorism, we stress the necessity to develop international cooperation, in accordance with the principles of international law, including that of sovereign equality of states and non-interference in their internal affairs. We reaffirm solidarity and resolve in the fight against terrorism, value the 2nd BRICS Counter-Terrorism Working Group Meeting held in Beijing on 18 May 2017, and agree to strengthen our cooperation.

We call upon all nations to adopt a comprehensive approach in combating terrorism, which should include countering radicalization, recruitment, movement of terrorists including Foreign Terrorist Fighters, blocking sources of financing terrorism including, for instance, through organized crime by means of money-laundering, supply of weapons, drug trafficking and other criminal activities, dismantling terrorist bases, and countering misuse of the Internet including social media by terrorist entities through misuse of the latest Information and Communication Technologies (ICTs). We are committed to prevent and counter the growing spread of terrorist narratives, and to tackle all sources, techniques and channels of terrorist financing. We call for swift and effective implementation of relevant UNSC Resolutions -"
This is an ultimatum in all but name: a message that this is Pakistan's last chance to change course without at the very least "losing face", as the Chinese put it. The bit about "sovereign equality of states" and citing UN obligations and what are the terms UNSCR 1373 (which limits such sovereignty) is a kind of line in the sand.

As German newspaper Deutsche Welles puts it:

Pakistan's foreign policy in a nutshell: As long as China is backing us, we don't have to worry about the United States or the rest of the world.

But China is not backing Pakistan's policies any more. Now what will Pakistan's policymakers do?

One more thing: this game of foreign leaders saying one thing publicly and then Pakistani leaders claiming to their own people that foreign leaders reversed themselves in private conversations [link] is also a driver in Pakistan's diplomatic isolation: no foreign official can have any assurance that a private conversation with a Pakistani official won't be mis-represented. So the dirty laundry has to be discussed in the open, putting a premium on posturing and egos. Not a good thing. Perhaps ordinary Pakistanis and the Pakistani media can do something to lower tempers by not taking such claims at face value and calling their officials to account?
With NK kept in "operational" mode, do they need to say anything else????
 
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Isn't it obvious, whole world including Indians are having low IQ

i don't care about rest of the world and bharatis, but you obviously is a low IQ nutter.

Only guys like you can decipher the diplomatic language of the adopted resolution

You can shove that resolution where sun dont shine, i am not forcing you to accept my interpretation.
 
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India is burning all its energy to officially endorse Pak a terrorist country to prolong its rule in Kashmir... Indian has good strategy they are fight on 3 fronts.
1. Insurgency through Afghanistan inside Pakistan. Supporting terrorist elements like exiled Nawabs of Baluchistan and people type Altaf Hussain using mohajir card or MQM.
3. Running anti Pak lobby in Washington.
3. Using all international platform to address Pakistan a terrorist supporting country. BRICS

But, it really worked yet ?
I can assure you in advance - nothing's gonna work!!!!
 
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If they can room freely inside Pakistan and hold rallies frequently than they are not considered terrorists by the state of Pakistan. Hence the condemnation.

Well, even OBL was NOT FOUND in Pakistan !
 
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You can shove that resolution where sun dont shine, i am not forcing you to accept my interpretation
If you promise to meet me then I will keep a copy of resolution handy :p:
 
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The minister’s response follows a statement on Monday by Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa that also called for patrons of the Pakistan-based militant groups to be held to account. “These organizations, they have some of their remnants in Pakistan, which we’re cleaning,” Defence Minister Khurram Dastagir Khan told a private news channel, without specifying which groups he was referring to.

BRICS did not name Pakistan. But why did it rattle Pakistan? CHOR KI DAADHI MAIN TINKA.:agree:

BRICS is rejected.
lol...desperation at its peak.misleading title.Pakistan has not rejected anything in the said memorandum. this is authors own title. pak has always rejected the blame of safe havens which was an answer to the tv anchors question... and thats what he said there. so wrong title.bad luck try again.

and whn he didnt specify groups he is talking about cleaning remnants of TTP..the India/Afghanistan based TTP. he is talking about the khyber1v and rad ul fasad. .which have nothing to do with kashmir
 
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