Pakistan ranked 7th, Turkey ranked 11th in latest GlobalFirePower rankings. Ukraine sees a massive rise.

[MMM-E]

Who is your rival anyway? Who is a match for SUPER POWER TURKIYE-E-E--E?

Our rivals are big powers since 1500s
Ottoman Empire , British Empire , France , Russian Empire , Holy Roman Empire

Countries like Greece,Egypt,Israel are not in the same league with Turkiye
you are our ex- vassals as like other 40 countries

sooner or later Turkiye will return to its former strength

Israel must come to terms with Turkey's superpower status in the Middle East, said Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz​

Israel needs to come to terms with Turkey's superpower status in the Middle East, Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz

Turkey will become a “superpower in our region… There is no question about it,” Mofaz stated. “We should have a strategic relationship with Turkey like we had in the past.”

Mofaz: Turkey Will Become Mideast 'Superpower'

Israel must come to terms with Turkey's superpower status in the Middle East, said Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz.

www.israelnationalnews.com

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Nukes matter, thermo-nukes even more....

Pak most probably has acquired the capability of producing the thermo-nukes and pairing them with their MIRV missiles*. It itself increase her fire power by 1m times.....

Conventional power alone can't deter existential threats from the rival militaries....

*A senior member of the PDF has indirectly acknowledged this.

 

[Foinikas]

you are our ex- vassals

This masturbatory fantasy has to stop. Half the world was vassal to the other half at some point in history.

It's ridiculous to say stuff like "oh you are our ex-vassals" in 2023.

 

[Abid123]

Countries like Greece,Egypt,Israel are not in the same league with Turkiye
you are our ex- vassals

In what league exactly? Israel is a nuclear power with enough warheads for every major city and military base in Turkey meanwhile Egypt's land army is far superior. Egypt has 1000+ M1 Abrams tanks and 500 T-90s on order. The strongest muslim land army.

 

[MMM-E]

In what league exactly? Israel is a nuclear power with enough warheads for every major city and military base in Turkey meanwhile Egypt's land army is far superior. Egypt has 1000+ M1 Abrams tanks and 500 T-90s on order. The strongest muslim land army.

Still dreaming about a concept from ww2

The strongest muslim land army is Turkish Army
We prefer 250 UCAVs instead of 1.000 Tanks

250 UCAVs can hit even moving Tanks from 100-150 km away
TRLG-230 laser guided MLRS can hit even moving Tanks from 70 km away
ALPAGUT kamikaze Drone with IIR / TV can hit even moving Tanks from 60 km away

land based KUZGUN-KY missile can hit even moving Tanks from 40 km away
land based KUZGUN-TJ missile can hit even moving Tanks from 150 km away

also KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet and TISU unmanned stealth Bomber on the way

The Enemy Army doesn't even know where it came from



Egypt can not develop even 5th gen anti-Tank missile ..


To produce everything for Army

Tank , Howitzers , MLRS , Ballistic Missiles , Cruise Missiles , Air Defense Systems , MANPADS , Anti-Tank Missiles , AESA Radars , Electronic Warfare Systems , Kamikaze Drones , UCAVs , Attack and Utility Helicopters

USA , France , Russia , China , Turkiye ,

 

[Zarvan]

Yeah because they arent idiots, as long as you have the industrial capacity you can produce many more in times of need. We lack industrial capacity to even make cars, france has its own airospace and car companies.

Where I said they are not an economic power.

 

[Abid123]

Turkish Air Force has 200 F-16s which were produced between 1990 and 2012
and modernized with most modern systems-missiles for $3,9 billion in 2015

also Turkiye modernize 35 F-16 block-30 to block70 standard
total of 235 F-16 with most modern 4 Boeing E-7T AEWCs for network centric warfare


Iran has outdated weak tiny Airforce

-- 40 MIG-29
-- around 20 F-14 fully mission capable


and USA blocked 100 F-35A to Turkiye

but its new Turkish unmanned stealth Fighter Jet KIZILELMA
and Air superiority Fighter Jet TFX ..... Iran,Egypt only can dream about it

Iran has been under sanctions and arms embargo for decades. Turkey would collapse in a week if the US sanctioned Turkey as hard as Iran is sanctioned. You would be able to produce 1/10th the weapons Iran has.

 

[MMM-E]

Iran has been under sanctions and arms embargo for decades. Turkey would collapse in a week if the US sanctioned Turkey as hard as Iran is sanctioned. You would be able to produce 1/10th the weapons Iran has.

Turkiye produced Aircraft even in 1936-1944 , when Iran was free ,,

Turkish Aircraft 1936-1944 ... what about İran in 1936-1944 ?
stop compare İran with Turkiye

Pro American leaders/Generals blocked Aviation and Defense Industry in Turkiye between 1947-2003

even there was not a single Turkish Rifle
USA backed military coups always blocked patriotic leaders in Turkiye
1960,1971,1980,1997 and last one 2016 to destroy president ERDOGAN

also Turkiye under attack since 1985 and lost over $500 billion to fight PKK terrorism since 1985

also since 2013 , Turkiye and Turkish economy under attack by USA-France and their terrorists/puppets .... Turkiye lost hundreds of billions of Dollars since 2013


on the other uselees sanctions on Iran ..
Russia-China-France-Germany even Turkiye always ignored American sanctions on Iran ..

 

[Foinikas]

Turkiye produced Aircraft even in 1936-1944 , when Iran was free ,,

Turkish Aircraft 1936-1944 ... what about İran in 1936-1944 ?
stop compare İran with Turkiye
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Pro American leaders blocked Aviation and Defense Industry between 1947-2003

even there was not a single Turkish Rifle
USA backed military coups always blocked patriotic leaders in Turkiye
1960,1971,1980,1996 and last one 2016 to destroy president ERDOGAN

also Turkiye under attack since 1985 and lost over $500 billion to fight PKK terrorism since 1985

also since 2013 , Turkiye and Turkish economy under attack by USA-France and their terrorists/puppets .... Turkiye lost hundreds of billions of Dollars since 2013


on the other uselees sanctions on Iran ..
Russia-China-France-Germany even Turkiye always ignored American sanctions on Iran ..

Why do you keep spamming the same photos of some aircraft Turkey built in the 40s? Nobody cares,you've been spamming it dozens of times,it's tiresome. Stop crying about the '40s and the Cold War.

 

[MMM-E]

Why do you keep spamming the same photos of some aircraft Turkey built in the 40s? Nobody cares,you've been spamming it dozens of times,it's tiresome. Stop crying about the '40s and the Cold War.

Greek troll again jumped to my post , when I talking to other members
keep crying with your backward countries ,, jealous trolls


2023 and Turkish Fighter Jets KIZILELMA and MMU

 

[mike2000 is back]

Ca

hundreds of billions in military

Care to show us a link which shows Ukraine has receive hundreds of billions(that should be close to China's total defence budget)of military equipment ? Or you are just saying things for the sake of it? Lol

 

[R Wing]

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Care to show us a link which shows Ukraine has receive hundreds of billions(that should be close to China's total defence budget)of military equipment ? Or you are just saying things for the sake of it? Lol

Aid from the US alone is touching $100bn.

Here you go:

"A German think tank has been tracking it: Only last week, US President Joe Biden pledged another $45bn in support for Ukraine – a package Congress will now negotiate over. If the proposal is passed, it would be the fourth US aid package for Ukraine and the total money allocated for Ukraine since February would be nearly $100bn."​

Source: https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2022/12/27/how-much-money-has-the-west-spent-on-the-ukraine-war​

And, yes, it's staggering! This is a mix of mil and humanitarian aid, but the majority goes to defense ('security assistance' and 'military equipment.')

Also, let's say I'm a lying troll, and the actual combined aid from ALL sources is $100bn (instead of 'hundreds of billions.') That wouldn't necessarily negate my point, would it?

 

[ThunderCat]

Yep. I thought Ukraine is done within a month after Russian Army crossed the border. But here we are witnessing Ukraine's resilience...

Much thanks to NATO supplied weapons. Pakistan is also sending weapons there, but Pakistan's contribution to Ukraine is probably very insignificant. The main advantage is NATO support.

A lot of Pakistan's artiliary being sold to Ukraine are Soviet era knock-offs.

 

[LegionnairE]

A strong country doesn't need its people to constantly advertise it because everyone knows and agrees they are strong. However a weak country needs diehard fanboys like MMME to try and convince Turkey is relevant when it is the 5th most powerful country in the middle east.

1. Egypt
2. Iran
3. Saudi
4. Israel (no nukes in this scenario)
5. Turkey

I like how you reversed that list to **** with mme

He has little dick syndrome from living in Germany, this is his coping mechanism.