Pakistan ranked 7th, Turkey ranked 11th in latest GlobalFirePower rankings. Ukraine sees a massive rise.

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Unconventionally,
Russia
USA
China
France
UKD
Pakistan
India
North Korea

USA,China,UK,France,Russia,Japan,S.Korea,Turkiye,Italy ,Germany rules military technologies in the World


Pakistan , N.Korea have only missile technology ... nothing else

where are Pakistan , N.Korea ?



TOP NAVAL INDUSTRIES

USA , UK , France , Russia , China , India , Japan , S.Korea , Turkiye , Italy , Spain , Germany


TOP AVIATION INDUSTRIES

USA , UK , France , Russia , China , India , Japan , S.Korea , Turkiye , Italy , Brazil


TOP UCAV Technologies

USA , Turkiye , Israel , China


Top EW Technologies

USA , UK , France , Russia , Turkiye , Israel


AESA Radar technology

USA , UK , France , Russia , China , S.Korea , Israel , Turkiye , India , Italy , Japan


Gasturbine Engine / single crystal blade and bliks technologies

USA , UK , France , China , Turkiye .. ( Russia-Ukraine )


Top Missile Technologies

USA , UK , France , Russia , China , S.Korea , N.Korea , Israel , Turkiye ,Pakistan , Iran , India


To produce everything for Army

Tank , Howitzers , MLRS , Ballistic Missile , Cruise Missile , Air Defense Systems , MANPADS , Anti-Tank Missiles , AESA Radars , Electronic Warfare Systems , Kamikaze Drones , UCAVs , Attack and Utility Helicopters

USA , France , Russia , China , Turkiye ,

 

[Abid123]

not Greece .... but USA-France which are more stronger than backward India

You are telling me that USA-France are your enemies? Seriously? If that is the case why are you guys in NATO? Your enemy USA also has bases in Turkey with nuclear weapons.

 

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You are telling me that USA-France are your enemies? Seriously? If that is the case why are you guys in NATO? Your enemy USA also has bases in Turkey with nuclear weapons.

Not NATO , but USA-France support FETO , PKK/YPG , HAFTAR , Armenia , Greece to fight Turkiye in Syria,Libya,Caucasia and in the Eastern Mediterranean

and Turkiye lost over $500 billion since 2013


USA-Europe used Ukraine as proxy against Russia
USA-France now use Greece as proxy against Turkiye

USA-France use arms embargo on Turkiye
on the other hand , USA-France arming Greece

even USA deployed 1.000+ Tanks,Howitzers,IFVs,AFVs in Greece
USA deployed 100+ Helicopters including AH-64 Attack Helicopters in Greece
USA deployed dozens of F-15 and F-35 Fighter Jets in Greece

also USA-France armed-trained 100.000+ PKK/YPG Terrorists in Syria against Turkiye


Russia is fighting USA-Europe over Ukraine
Turkiye to fight USA-France over Greece and PKK/YPG

 

[Abid123]

If their meter is nuclear bombs, then yes Pakistan could have a better place in any list but honestly above France? France produces jet engines, naval engines, submarines, planes etc. Pakistan cannot stand above France and Pakistani friends can confirm this better than me.

They don't take into account industrial capability. They use over 60 individual factors to determine a countries ranking.

The main ones are:
-Manpower
-Financials
-Air power
-Land power
-Naval power
-Logistics
-Natural resources
-Geography

Pakistan is superior in Manpower, land power, natural resources and geography while France is superior in financials, Air power, Naval power and logistics.

So its basically a tie at 4-4.

 

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Pakistan is superior in Manpower, land power, natural resources and geography while France is superior in financials, Air power, Naval power and logistics.

So its basically a tie at 4-4.

what about natural resources and geography ?

Pakistan lacks defense industry
Pakistan lacks power projection
Pakistan lacks high quality sophisticated weapons
Pakistan lacks money
Pakistan lacks military bases abroad

France,Japan,Turkiye are stronger than Pakistan
Brazil is not even in top 15


AIRFORCE

Pakistan
-- 134 JF-17
-- 75 F-16
-- 14 J-10C

Brazil
-- 32 JAS-39 GRIPEN
-- 42 F-5
-- 46 AMX

Turkiye
-- 235 F-16

in 2002 Turkiye preferred F-35 instead of Eurofighter

but USA blocked 100 F-35A to Turkiye
and Turkiye develops KIZILELMA , TISU and TFX to modernize its Airforce

 

[MMM-E]

Japan should be in top 5


-- 62 F-16
-- 155 F-15
-- 27 F-35A/B ( 117 on order )

-- 17 E-2 AEWC
-- 4 E-767 AEWC

Maritime Patrol and ASW
-- 68 P-3C
-- 23 P-1

17 V-22

12 AH-64 and 88 AH-1S , 132 OH-1 Attack Helicopters

2 LHD and 2 light Aircraft Carrier to carry F-35B

-- 22 Submarines

36 Destroyers

3 Frigates

 

[renhai]

I am very aware that China is an industrial powerhouse of epic proportions and currently one of the leading actors in the weapon industry and they do it extremely fast.. They are extremely professional and nobody can counter that or say otherwise because it is simple ground facts.

China can develope anything and I don't contest this bro.. Because ground realities are ground realities..

In Terms of Quantity in arms production

1.China
2.USA


In terms of Quality the Turks edge out China atleast in this last 5 years due to many ground breaking releases and proved stuff...

1.USA
2.Turkey
3.China

In terms of Quality and I am big fan of Chinese systems but lets be honest there is some mixed consumer reviews maybe because China doesn't want to sell ''state of the art products'' which means why they could sell lower end stuff to other countries but there are also positive reviews mixed in there from some customers...

Example: At gun-point to their head most countries would chose Turkey's products over that of China if it meant life or death. People would put their trust in turkish produced end products.. I mean countries like Poland, Ukraine, Germany etc etc if they had two options for survival reasons to break the bank for it would definitely be Turkish produced

How many times do I need to say??!! Go and see the outside world! Do you think you know China and the world well?

Türkiye is a backward agricultural country! You say it has something to do with the word "quality"?! Don't forget that China helped Türkiye make cars! And Türkiye fans just make international jokes!

What a troll team dreaming about backward technology to destroy a country
Aircraft Carrier with low quality copy weapons like J-15 Fighter Jet with huge RCS

only one Ukrainian Anti-Ship Missile was enough to turn Russian guided missile Cruiser MOSKVA into crap of metal

real technology is unmanned Submarine , unmanned Vessels and UCAVs and unmanned stealth Fighter Jets to attack enemy Naval Force like JAWS ... and game over

even I am not talking about supersonic missiles and hypersonic anti-ship Ballistic Missile

I forgot to tell little Türkiye something. China's aircraft carrier strike group has two types 055.

In the evening I will teach you what technology is. And how far is Türkiye from the word "technology". Expectations. lol

 

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Türkiye is a backward agricultural country! You say it has something to do with the word "quality"?! Don't forget that China helped Türkiye make cars! And Türkiye fans just make international jokes!

false flager troll
even USA,Germany buys from China because of Chinese products are very cheap
hundreds of millions of poor Chinese work $2 per day under communist regime



btw Turkiye is industrialized country to produce everything with better quality

including ASELPOD Targeting Pod

Pakistan prefered high quality Turkish targeting pod for JF-17 Fighter jets instead of low quality Chinese targeting pod

Pakistan will continue buying high quality Turkish weapons like T-929 Attack Helicopter , KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet ... also TFX Fighter Jet on the way


high quality targeting pods in the world
USA,Turkiye,Israel and France

high quality Turkish targeting pod

I forgot to tell little Türkiye something. China's aircraft carrier strike group has two types 055.

In the evening I will teach you what technology is. And how far is Türkiye from the word "technology". Expectations. lol

copycat China with low quality weapons

even Kazakhstan stoped buying low quality Chinese UCAVs .... Kazakhstan will produce high quality Turkish UCAVs

false flager Greek troll

 

[PakistaniandProud]

If their meter is nuclear bombs, then yes Pakistan could have a better place in any list but honestly above France? France produces jet engines, naval engines, submarines, planes etc. Pakistan cannot stand above France and Pakistani friends can confirm this better than me.

If you point to economy, then the numbers shouldn't be a factor. For example Iran despite being sanctioned can easily survive any blockade, since it produces every peteochemical products. Iran is a sanction/blockade proof country.

On the other hand, indonesia cannot survive any blockade.

You are right Ukraine has had some infra from Soviet legacies but are mostly outdated and destroyed by Russian attacks. Without full NATO support, they wouldnt be able to stand for a year of Russian attacks.

Yeah, majority of us think Japan and France should be above Pakistan.

 

[renhai]

false flager troll
even USA,Germany buys from China because of Chinese products are very cheap
hundreds of millions of poor Chinese work $2 per day under communist regime



btw Turkiye is industrialized country to produce everything with better quality

including ASELPOD Targeting Pod

Pakistan prefered high quality Turkish targeting pod for JF-17 Fighter jets instead of low quality Chinese targeting pod

Pakistan will continue buying high quality Turkish weapons like T-929 Attack Helicopter , KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet ... also TFX Fighter Jet on the way


high quality targeting pods in the world
USA,Turkiye,Israel and France

high quality Turkish targeting pod
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copycat China with low quality weapons

even Kazakhstan stoped buying low quality Chinese UCAVs .... Kazakhstan will produce high quality Turkish UCAVs

false flager Greek troll

Let's admit one fact first. The Chinese aircraft carrier strike group (one aircraft carrier+2 type 055+2 type 052d+nuclear submarine, etc.) is enough to massacre turkey.

Of course, the world buys Chinese cars because of their technology and quality. But only Turkey buys Chinese cars because Turkey cannot manufacture cars independently.

Turkey is a backward agricultural country. It mainly produces some primary products and low-end technical products.... A real power will not brag about the lowest end of the aviation industry ~ UAV...

Turkey UAV is mainly copied from China and the United States.

Turkey's combat UAV is a copy of China's AVIC Dark Sword. Not J-20. turkey has no technology to copy J-20.

I'm shocked to see an agrarian country that can't even produce EW planes and AWACS talking about electronic pods.

And I hope this backward agricultural country can understand that JF-17 is made in China (only supplied to Pakistan). Not made in Turkey.

of course. Welcome Turkey to buy JF-17.

Seems to be in the real world. Most Turks can understand the distance between Turkey and "technology" and "quality".

last. I admit that Chinese factories only give Turkey workers 5 cents a month.

Chinese tech giant Xiaomi opens factory in Turkey

Xiaomi's production plant in Istanbul to employ 2,000 people - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

Imagine... an agricultural country caught in China's debt trap now considers itself an industrial country. lol.

@Titanium100 I will show you how big the world is.

 

[PakistaniandProud]

They don't seem to understand that East Asia and the Mediterranean are very different.

Think about it. When this country talks about "quality", it finds that it cannot even make cars independently in 2023.

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@Titanium100 Remember. The world is very, very big.......

Yeah. If South Korea, Japan or even Taiwan were put on the map in the middle east, they would instantly be a regional superpower making their neighbors look weak in comparison.

 

[SQ8]

Trying to rank firepower is trying to rank the best tasting buffet based upon the number of calories.

 

[HelloKitty94]

false flager troll
even USA,Germany buys from China because of Chinese products are very cheap
hundreds of millions of poor Chinese work $2 per day under communist regime



btw Turkiye is industrialized country to produce everything with better quality

including ASELPOD Targeting Pod

Pakistan prefered high quality Turkish targeting pod for JF-17 Fighter jets instead of low quality Chinese targeting pod

Pakistan will continue buying high quality Turkish weapons like T-929 Attack Helicopter , KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet ... also TFX Fighter Jet on the way


high quality targeting pods in the world
USA,Turkiye,Israel and France

high quality Turkish targeting pod
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copycat China with low quality weapons

even Kazakhstan stoped buying low quality Chinese UCAVs .... Kazakhstan will produce high quality Turkish UCAVs

false flager Greek troll

Do you have any ideas how strong China is in this field?

Targeting/Optic systems has become such a piece of cake for China that Chinese military fans stopped talking about this kind of technology since around 2010....like 13 years ago.

Best Global Universities for Optics

We don't even want to argue with you on this topic because it's so trivial and outdated, brings 0 value to our knowledge.

 

[PakistaniandProud]

Pakistan lacks military bases abroad

Pakistan has many bases abroad, mainly via the "United Nations". We have bases in the UAE and Saudi Arabia. We've trained many Arab nations in the 60s.

 

[Goritoes]

Apparently no one likes the list or agree with but some how sneak their countries in there lol Chinese, Turk's, Iranian's, Indonesia , etc Why is everyone so emotional over putting their Militaries on top 5 or top 10 ? Of course Pakistani's didn't made the list, in fact I see more Pakistani's shocked to see our Army on 7th position, some Members are so emotional and Jazbati, that one Turkish guy has put Turkiye in every list known to man, and than we have that Chinese dude who claim that Chinese Carrier group will wipe out Turkey, than we have these 2 Iranian members trying to sneak Iran into the top 10, and dissing on KSA lol

Never mind guys, just passing by