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I was not factual incorrect but an Indian girl on a Pakistan forum has to bow to the power of the moderators or commit jauhar like Rajput Hindu wives from being turned into sex slaves.
Topic was something else. You want to discuss your comments, please make a separate thread. We encourage good writers.. But just ensure that you don't do propaganda (just like the quoted post). Your post should be backed by credible sources.
 
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The Muslims in BD hate India 10X more than the Paks for they're 10X more in the receiving end from the Indians...

Some examples of BD Muslims' die hard hatred for India:
  • After the elimination of the Mujib regime, BD Army's Deputy Chief - an Indian stooge - wanted to do a coup to reverse the process of making a Pak-like Muslim state out of BD. He and his principal cohorts - all ex Mukti Bahini - were immediately killed by the Muslim officers, who themselves were ex Mukti!! And, nobody even bothered to bury them as their dead bodies were rotting around
  • BD's Muslim President Ziaur Rehman - an ex Pak Ordu infantry/intelligence officer and ex Mukti - was killed via a RAW ops as he had almost made a mini Pak out of BD. The ex Mukti general, who took the lead in the assassination, was killed by the angry soldiers by repeated bayonet charges, and they kicked his dead body into the sewage
 
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Bengal is home of progressive politics in the region.

India's balkanisation will also start from Bengal.
 
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Bengalis were fighting for a Muslim nation since before Jinnah.

Read up partition of Bengal 1905, this sent a clear message to the Brits, and to everyone else in the RAJ, simple message we can't live in peace with abusive landowning jamindar brahmins.


Year later, All India Muslim League was formed in Dhaka with a top leadership consisting mostly of Bengalis, some of whom went on to be leaders of united Pakistan.


Don't know why no one is taught this bit of history, neither Bengalis nor Pakistanis.

regardless they were fighting before Jinnah or not,, Jinnah was the ultimate medium ; the guy who lead the independence movement that took bengalis to their own homeland..

The real reason you dont teach your children about him is something else..
 
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regardless they were fighting before Jinnah or not,, Jinnah was the ultimate medium and who lead the independence movement that took bengalis to their own homeland..

The real reason you dont teach your children about him is something else..


Hilarious but whatever.
 
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no substantive answer...there were many other west pakistanis who worked with bengalis for their homeland.. too sad you cant own them as well


Not in a mood to enlighten the ignorant, I will tag you some other day.


Just so you know we don't hate Jinnah, We are indifferent to him is all.
 
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Not in a mood to enlighten the ignorant, I will tag you some other day.
Most Bangladeshis see Jinnah through the prism of post-1971 politics. Factually, this perception remains historically inaccurate and clouded by jingoism. Without Jinnah, Bangladesh would not even exist today of course.

It was due to Jinnah’s leadership that West and East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) were formed, and the movement for Pakistan was spearheaded mainly by his efforts. There is academic consensus over this. Before 1949, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, whom the Bengalis call “Bangabandhu”, was in fact one of the staunch loyalists of Jinnah and the Muslim League’s campaign for an independent Pakistan. Without East Pakistan separating, the Bangladeshis would undoubtedly be Indians today, and perhaps living as second-class citizens there; much like the East Bengali refugees whom Indians call a “burden”.

Many Bengali commentators cite the 1950s Bengali Language Movement as the reason for animosity. But the truth is that Jinnah died in 1948 (a year after Pakistan’s independence), and the seeds of Bengali agitation were laid much later (due to political reasons which is a whole another debate).

There is then the vague reference to a speech in Dhaka where he advocated Urdu as a national language, which other Bangladeshi nationalists prefer to cite. But there is no evidence that Jinnah even opposed the use of Bengali at a provincial level; he simply maintained that at the federal level, Pakistan should have one national language (a lingua franca) which would be used as the official mode of communication between all groups. Similar to how English is used today. It did not prevent the Punjabis, Sindhis, Pashtuns, Baloch, Kashmiris, Saraikis etc. from using or studying their own native languages within their provinces. None of these ethnicities had major problems either with using one standard lingua franca. If one looks at India, they have given a special union status to Hindi and English, while all other languages are designated ‘co-official’ in their respective states. Similarly Urdu historically has a significant role among the Muslim masses of the subcontinent. Even today, most Bangladeshis are more likely to understand Urdu than Pakistanis are to understand Bengali.

Therefore it can be concluded that the Bangladeshi narrative of Jinnah is mostly fabricated and one that relies on the anti-Pakistan narrative which developed from 1950s onwards. It does not have any meaningful foundations. There were definitely no anti-Jinnah sentiments in 1947/1948 when East Pakistan became independent. It was artificially manufactured post-1950 to 1970s.


- taken from a nice quora post on the subject by Nazeer K
 
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Most Bangladeshis see Jinnah through the prism of post-1971 politics. Factually, this perception remains historically inaccurate and clouded by jingoism. Without Jinnah, Bangladesh would not even exist today of course.

It was due to Jinnah’s leadership that West and East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) were formed, and the movement for Pakistan was spearheaded mainly by his efforts. There is academic consensus over this. Before 1949, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, whom the Bengalis call “Bangabandhu”, was in fact one of the staunch loyalists of Jinnah and the Muslim League’s campaign for an independent Pakistan. Without East Pakistan separating, the Bangladeshis would undoubtedly be Indians today, and perhaps living as second-class citizens there; much like the East Bengali refugees whom Indians call a “burden”.

Many Bengali commentators cite the 1950s Bengali Language Movement as the reason for animosity. But the truth is that Jinnah died in 1948 (a year after Pakistan’s independence), and the seeds of Bengali agitation were laid much later (due to political reasons which is a whole another debate).

There is then the vague reference to a speech in Dhaka where he advocated Urdu as a national language, which other Bangladeshi nationalists prefer to cite. But there is no evidence that Jinnah even opposed the use of Bengali at a provincial level; he simply maintained that at the federal level, Pakistan should have one national language (a lingua franca) which would be used as the official mode of communication between all groups. Similar to how English is used today. It did not prevent the Punjabis, Sindhis, Pashtuns, Baloch, Kashmiris, Saraikis etc. from using or studying their own native languages within their provinces. None of these ethnicities had major problems either with using one standard lingua franca. If one looks at India, they have given a special union status to Hindi and English, while all other languages are designated ‘co-official’ in their respective states. Similarly Urdu historically has a significant role among the Muslim masses of the subcontinent. Even today, most Bangladeshis are more likely to understand Urdu than Pakistanis are to understand Bengali.

Therefore it can be concluded that the Bangladeshi narrative of Jinnah is mostly fabricated and one that relies on the anti-Pakistan narrative which developed from 1950s onwards. It does not have any meaningful foundations. There were definitely no anti-Jinnah sentiments in 1947/1948 when East Pakistan became independent. It was artificially manufactured post-1950 to 1970s.


- taken from a nice quora post.


Irrelevant, I never said we hate Jinnah, We just refuse to worship him.

As a group, We fought the british occupiers more than any other ethnicity, to tame us, they broke our backs with deliberately induced famines.


Jinnah is one man and his achievements and contributions are acknowledged and respected but that does not discount the fact that bengalis did the heavy lifting for Independence, No clue what you're on about.



I suggest you read the history of Britain and Bengal, You will learn a thing or two and more importantly you'll learn why they used famines as a weapon to rein us in.
 
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