Pakistan pitches for mutual demilitarisation of Siachen after Lance Naik Koppad's death

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New Delhi:On a day Siachen braveheart Lance Naik Hanamanthappa Koppad died, Pakistan on Thursday said time has come for "urgent" resolution of Siachen issue between it and India by mutually withdrawing troops from there to ensure more lives are not lost due to harsh conditions on the glacier.

Representational image. AFP

Koppad, who was admitted to Army hospital after being rescued alive three days ago from beneath tonnes of snow six days after an avalanche hit his post in Siachen at an altitude of 19,600 feet, died earlier in the day.

"These tragedies only reinforce the need to resolve the issue... urgently and through peaceful means, through dialogue," Pakistan High Commissioner Abdul Basit said while referring to a proposal of mutual withdrawal of troops from Siachen made by his Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif at the UN General Assembly last year.

"So, we strongly feel that the time has come to ensure that more lives are not lost due to harsh conditions in Siachen," the Pakistan envoy added.

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Pakistan pitches for mutual demilitarisation of Siachen after Lance Naik Koppad's death - Firstpost

 

[Abingdonboy]

New Delhi:On a day Siachen braveheart Lance Naik Hanamanthappa Koppad died, Pakistan on Thursday said time has come for "urgent" resolution of Siachen issue between it and India by mutually withdrawing troops from there to ensure more lives are not lost due to harsh conditions on the glacier.

Representational image. AFP

Koppad, who was admitted to Army hospital after being rescued alive three days ago from beneath tonnes of snow six days after an avalanche hit his post in Siachen at an altitude of 19,600 feet, died earlier in the day.

"These tragedies only reinforce the need to resolve the issue... urgently and through peaceful means, through dialogue," Pakistan High Commissioner Abdul Basit said while referring to a proposal of mutual withdrawal of troops from Siachen made by his Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif at the UN General Assembly last year.

"So, we strongly feel that the time has come to ensure that more lives are not lost due to harsh conditions in Siachen," the Pakistan envoy added.

PTI


Pakistan pitches for mutual demilitarisation of Siachen after Lance Naik Koppad's death - Firstpost

Opportunism of the most despicable kind.

The reason Siachin has not been and cannot be demilitarised thus far is because the Pakistani side has REFUSED to share the Actual Ground Postion Line (AGPL) with the Indian side to date. The reason being, doing so would be an admission that Pakistan doesn't hold an inch of the Siachin glacier and is present only on the lower ground with the IA posts overlooking them.


Unless the Pakistani side has changed their stance and is now willing to share the AGPL then what has changed? Being on the lower ground it is actually the PA that is most at risk of natural calamities, a withdrawel by the IA now without Pakistan providing the AGPL would be a disgrace to the 800+ brave Indians who have laid down their lives holding Siachin for their country.

 

[SRP]

Not Accepted. Thank you.

 

[mkb95]

they are only doing it bcos indian presence in siachen is a strategic disadvantage to pak side since it gives us better fighting position.
same as in kargil,they took position on higher ground resulting in high indian casualty.
if we leave now,and they pull off another kargil(which we can never trust them if they will not do it again) it will be another bloodbath on indian side.

 

[haviZsultan]

they are only doing it bcos indian presence in siachen is a strategic disadvantage to pak side since it gives us better fighting position.
same as in kargil,they took position on higher ground resulting in high indian casualty.
if we leave now,and they pull off another kargil(which we can never trust them if they will not do it again) it will be another bloodbath on indian side.

Get your facts right. India's operation Meghdoot and incursion into Siachen which resulted in the thievery of land from us resulted in Pakistan's future operation in kargil. Kargil was a response to siachen, not the other way around. Look at history and ask what happened first, the siachen conflict or the kargil debacle. It was India which invaded Siachen. Kargil was a response to even things but Indian media was in its initial phase of growing increasingly powerful. It convinced America and other countries that Pakistan was being belligerant and combative.

Not a word was raised on the Siachen attack which India launched but Pakistan was asked to pull back in Kargil. Unfortunate and shows that India's soft power had been growing since that early. Pakistani government should have done something to curtail this growing influence and perhaps we wouldn't have American offers to India to sell f16s better than ours or a nuke deal.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Get your facts right. India's operation Meghdoot and incursion into Siachen which resulted in the thievery of land from us resulted in Pakistan's future operation in kargil. Kargil was a response to siachen, not the other way around. Look at history and ask what happened first, the siachen conflict or the kargil debacle. It was India which invaded Siachen.

There is no other way to put this except to say this is the perspective from the losing side. The Indian Army simply pre-empted a Pakistani operation to do the very same, a matter of a few weeks and some different circumstances and histroy would be very different.


Playing the game of "he started it first" doesn't change the ground realities of today which are India occupies the Siachin glacier, none of Pakistan's posts are on the glacier and are all on a downward elevation from India's and under constant observation. No amount of parroting of your own highly selective historical record is going to change that.

 

[surya kiran]

Get your facts right. India's operation Meghdoot and incursion into Siachen which resulted in the thievery of land from us resulted in Pakistan's future operation in kargil. Kargil was a response to siachen, not the other way around. Look at history and ask what happened first, the siachen conflict or the kargil debacle. It was India which invaded Siachen. Kargil was a response to even things but Indian media was in its initial phase of growing increasingly powerful. It convinced America and other countries that Pakistan was being belligerant and combative.

Not a word was raised on the Siachen attack which India launched but Pakistan was asked to pull back in Kargil. Unfortunate and shows that India's soft power had been growing since that early. Pakistani government should have done something to curtail this growing influence and perhaps we wouldn't have American offers to India to sell f16s better than ours or a nuke deal.

Who told the Pakistani government to sign the Kashmir Agreement without reading? What does the wording of the Agreement say regarding Siachen?

There is no other way to put this except to say this is the perspective from the losing side. The Indian Army simply pre-empted a Pakistani operation to do the very same, a matter of a few weeks and some different circumstances and histroy would be very different.

The point of who started it first, does not arise. If you read the Kashmir Agreement of 1949, it very clearly mentions where the boundary is supposed to be.

The problem now is, the PA has been telling the gullible Pakistani citizenry that they are defending Siachen. Now, think what would happen if they were to say, we were never there. The Indians have had it all these years and it was all misinformation that we are defending it.

 

[SrNair]

Did they actually think that we will take such measure ,a disgrace to our fallen bravehearts ?
Lance Naik Koppad sacrificed for a reason .To protect the sovreignity and strategic security of his/our motherland .If situation demands every Indians will ask for it .
That sacrifice wouldnt go in vain.
RIP Lance Naik Koppad .
Nation will always proud of you.

 

[Areesh]

Stupid from Pakistan. Expecting sanity from Indians who are high on supa puwa India weed is insanity itself. Better shut mouth and keep go on with the status quo.

 

[jetray]

Stupid from Pakistan. Expecting sanity from Indians who are high on supa puwa India weed is insanity itself. Better shut mouth and keep go on with the status quo.

Yeah you are right, pakistan loses 120+ soldiers , carry on occupying but india should vacate after losing 10 soldiers.
Sanity? consistently hypocritical.

 

[Areesh]

Yeah you are right, pakistan loses 120+ soldiers , carry on occupying but india should vacate after losing 10 soldiers.
Sanity? consistently hypocritical.

120 didn't die on Siachen as per your own claims. So they were just defending their territory on their own side of LOC.

 

[Killswitch]

I dont see any terrorist camps being dismantled, or any of the people responsible for 27/11 being brought to justice, so....


The Border with Pakistan needs more troops, fences, bunkers, artillery, etc.

Good fences make for good nieghbours.

 

[jetray]

120 didn't die on Siachen as per your own claims. So they were just defending their territory on their own side of LOC.

Same holds good for India too.

 

[Scavenger]

Winners don't vacate their winnings - particularly if the winning is our own land.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Opportunism of the most despicable kind.

The reason Siachin has not been and cannot be demilitarised thus far is because the Pakistani side has REFUSED to share the Actual Ground Postion Line (AGPL) with the Indian side to date. The reason being, doing so would be an admission that Pakistan doesn't hold an inch of the Siachin glacier and is present only on the lower ground with the IA posts overlooking them.


Unless the Pakistani side has changed their stance and is now willing to share the AGPL then what has changed? Being on the lower ground it is actually the PA that is most at risk of natural calamities, a withdrawel by the IA now without Pakistan providing the AGPL would be a disgrace to the 800+ brave Indians who have laid down their lives holding Siachin for their country.

Accepting the AGPL is the equivalent to a Pakistani surrender to India's unprovoked military aggression in Siachen and an unconditional acceptance of India's flawed interpretation of the language of the agreement demarcating the LoC - it's a non-starter.

Yeah you are right, pakistan loses 120+ soldiers , carry on occupying but india should vacate after losing 10 soldiers.
Sanity? consistently hypocritical.

What part of 'mutual demilitarisation' does your hate-mongering brain not comprehend?

There is no other way to put this except to say this is the perspective from the losing side. The Indian Army simply pre-empted a Pakistani operation to do the very same, a matter of a few weeks and some different circumstances and histroy would be very different.

The reason the Pakistani Army even considered an operation in 1984 was because of the escalation of the issue by India and the detection of Indian military patrols in the region.

The driving factor was always unprovoked Indian military aggression.