Featured Pakistan Navy Type 054AP Frigates - Update, News & Discussion

[Tank131]

The latest 054A is equipped with aesa fire control radar, which may be capable of being equipped. As for Pakistan's 054ap, since it uses MR90, it is obvious that it can only use the 40km hq-16.
Although I am wondering why the 054ap, which was built at the same time as the latest version of the 054A, chose the radar designed and used 20 years ago.
Especially if the search radar has been replaced with SR2410C.

Again remember that the only naval HQ-16 is LY-80/HQ-16A which has a 40km range. If a newer variant becomes available and navalized, then an upgrade can be acquired.

 

[arslank03]

Again remember that the only naval HQ-16 is LY-80/HQ-16A which has a 40km range. If a newer variant becomes available and navalized, then an upgrade can be acquired.

The even bigger issue is 2 missiles per channel, on top of that, usually 2 missiles per target are expended, there are 4 channels, therefore 8 missiles out at a time to cover 360 degree arc, not set up to defend against larger attacks- same goes for Indian ships equipped with shitl

 

[Bin Laden]

I honestly don't get it why PN went with HHQ-16 , when an alternative in the form of DK-10 (now renamed to sd10a(not to be mixed with AAM) for some reason)

It's chinese equivalent of ESSM, CAMM-ER which PN will use on pretty much all it's western origin ships,

It's basically ground launched pl12, and share the same technology which is far superior to the solution present on hhq16.

It can be quad packed and has an beefed up version called sd-30 , if baseline dk10 goes to 50+km this one might outrange it.

@Bilal Khan (Quwa), can you shed some light on it, has PN cconsidered it? Or maybe plans to adopt them in the future.
One argument against it can be it's not widely used in PLAN and kind of an unknown type, but land version of this sam has already been exported to MOROCCO and RAWANDA.

Moroccan Sky dragon 50

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

I honestly don't get it why PN went with HHQ-16 , when an alternative in the form of DK-10 (now renamed to sd10a(not to be mixed with AAM) for some reason)

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It's chinese equivalent of ESSM, CAMM-ER which PN will use on pretty much all it's western origin ships,

It's basically ground launched pl12, and share the same technology which is far superior to the solution present on hhq16.

It can be quad packed and has an beefed up version called sd-30 , if baseline dk10 goes to 50+km this one might outrange it.

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@Bilal Khan (Quwa), can you shed some light on it, has PN cconsidered it? Or maybe plans to adopt them in the future.
One argument against it can be it's not widely used in PLAN and kind of an unknown type, but land version of this sam has already been exported to MOROCCO and RAWANDA.

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Moroccan Sky dragon 50

Likely to keep the price as low as possible. Integrating a different SAM and VLS system would've added to the NRE of the project and, besides cost, could also risk delays. The PN likely went with the most straightforward package to save money and time. However, once more corvettes and frigates join the fleet, the PN could look to upgrade the Type 054A/Ps. The HQ-16FE (160 km range) would be nice.

 

[arslank03]

Likely to keep the price as low as possible. Integrating a different SAM and VLS system would've added to the NRE of the project and, besides cost, could also risk delays. The PN likely went with the most straightforward package to save money and time. However, once more corvettes and frigates join the fleet, the PN could look to upgrade the Type 054A/Ps. The HQ-16FE (160 km range) would be nice.

Don’t rule out dk30

 

[syed_yusuf]

What are dk30 specs

 

[Bin Laden]

What are dk30 specs

Not much,suspect still under development, but looks like ground launched pl15, fins are identical, seeker head is pointier then sd10.

 

[CivilianSupremacy]

Any news on 3rd Type 54A ? I think Its about time

 

[Basel]

Latest HQ16fe has 160KM range, will be ready for export soon.

Why China have not developed PL-15 based quad packable SAM??

It will be very potent SAM and may have 100km range too.

Likely to keep the price as low as possible. Integrating a different SAM and VLS system would've added to the NRE of the project and, besides cost, could also risk delays. The PN likely went with the most straightforward package to save money and time. However, once more corvettes and frigates join the fleet, the PN could look to upgrade the Type 054A/Ps. The HQ-16FE (160 km range) would be nice.

What capabilities it offer other than range??

 

[Dazzler]

Why China have not developed PL-15 based quad packable SAM??

It will be very potent SAM and may have 100km range too.



What capabilities it offer other than range??

Many of these are essentially proposed systems for customers. Its like a demonstration of capability that we can develop such a system for interested customers. So, the said system may just be a proposal at this stage.

 

[LKJ86]

Via @酸梅梅梅干 from Weibo

 

[CSAW]

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[LKJ86]

Via @开心包仔铺 from Weibo

 

[syed_yusuf]

Is 3rd one ready

 

[CSAW]

"ISLAMABAD — Even as Pakistan’s currency plunges and the country pursues a bailout package to avoid default, the country’s naval officials say its maritime modernization programs remain on track.

Delivery of a complete fleet renewal is expected by the end of the decade. Pakistan is set to receive this year two remaining Type 054 A/P frigates, which will be the service’s most capable surface ships. The vessels’ HHQ-16 surface-to-air missile systems and P-282/CM-401 supersonic anti-ship weapons are intended to counter the threat from India’s BrahMos supersonic anti-ship missiles and growing carrier capabilities...."

How are Pakistan’s naval modernization plans coming along?

Delivery of a complete fleet renewal is expected by the end of the decade. How likely is that to happen?

www.defensenews.com

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