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Let's try different perspective from outsider, see what they think of current situations right now and find great points here, please read whole article below.


Washington’s War on Russia

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by MIKE WHITNEY
Global Research, March 19, 2015

“In order to survive and preserve its leading role on the international stage, the US desperately needs to plunge Eurasia into chaos, (and) to cut economic ties between Europe and Asia-Pacific Region … Russia is the only (country) within this potential zone of instability that is capable of resistance. It is the only state that is ready to confront the Americans. Undermining Russia’s political will for resistance… is a vitally important task for America.”

-Nikolai Starikov, Western Financial System Is Driving It to War, Russia Insider

“Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.”

-The Wolfowitz Doctrine, the original version of the Defense Planning Guidance, authored by Under Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, leaked to the New York Times on March 7, 1992

The United States does not want a war with Russia, it simply feels that it has no choice. If the State Department hadn’t initiated a coup in Ukraine to topple the elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, then the US could not have inserted itself between Russia and the EU, thus, disrupting vital trade routes which were strengthening nations on both continents. The economic integration of Asia and Europe–including plans for high-speed rail from China (“The New Silk Road”) to the EU–poses a clear and present danger for the US whose share of global GDP continues to shrink and whose significance in the world economy continues to decline. For the United States to ignore this new rival (EU-Russia) would be the equivalent of throwing in the towel and accepting a future in which the US would face a gradual but persistent erosion of its power and influence in world affairs. No one in Washington is prepared to let that happen, which is why the US launched its proxy-war in Ukraine.

The US wants to separate the continents, “prevent the emergence of a new rival”, install a tollbooth between Europe and Asia, and establish itself as the guarantor of regional security. To that end, the US is rebuilding the Iron Curtain along a thousand mile stretch from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea. Tanks, armored vehicles and artillery are being sent to the region to reinforce a buffer zone around Europe in order to isolate Russia and to create a staging ground for future US aggression. Reports of heavy equipment and weapons deployment appear in the media on nearly a daily basis although the news is typically omitted in the US press. A quick review of some of the recent headlines will help readers to grasp the scale of the conflict that is cropping up below the radar:

“US, Bulgaria to hold Balkans military drills”, “NATO Begins Exercises In Black Sea”, “Army to send even more troops, tanks to Europe”, “Poland requests greater US military presence”, “U.S. Army sending armored convoy 1,100 miles through Europe”, “Over 120 US tanks, armored vehicles arrive in Latvia”, “US, Poland to Conduct Missile Exercise in March – Pentagon”

Get the picture? There’s a war going on, a war between the United States and Russia.

Notice how most of the headlines emphasize US involvement, not NATO. In other words, the provocations against Russia originate from Washington not Europe. This is an important point. The EU has supported US-led economic sanctions, but it’s not nearly as supportive of the military build up along the perimeter. That’s Washington’s idea and the cost is borne by the US alone. Naturally, moving tanks, armored vehicles and artillery around the world is an expensive project, but the US is more than willing to make the sacrifice if it helps to achieve its objectives.

And what are Washington’s objectives?

Interestingly, even political analysts on the far right seem to agree about that point. For example, check out this quote from STRATFOR CEO George Friedman who summed it up in a recent presentation he delivered at The Chicago Council on Foreign Affairs. He said:

“The primordial interest of the United States, over which for centuries we have fought wars–the First, the Second and Cold Wars–has been the relationship between Germany and Russia, because united there, they’re the only force that could threaten us. And to make sure that that doesn’t happen.”George Friedman at The Chicago Council on Foreign Affairs, Time 1:40 to 1:57)

Bingo. Ukraine has nothing to do with sovereignty, democracy or (alleged) Russian aggression. That’s all propaganda. It’s about power. It’s about imperial expansion. It’s about spheres of influence. It’s about staving off irreversible economic decline. It’s all part of the smash-mouth, scorched earth, take-no-prisoners geopolitical world in which we live, not the fake Disneyworld created by the western media. The US State Department and CIA toppled the elected-government in Ukraine and ordered the new junta regime to launch a desperate war of annihilation against its own people in the East, because, well, because they felt they had no other option. Had Putin’s ambitious plan to create a free trade zone between Lisbon to Vladivostok gone forward, then where would that leave the United States? Out in the cold, that’s where. The US would become an isolated island of dwindling significance whose massive account deficits and ballooning national debt would pave the way for years of brutal restructuring, declining standards of living, runaway inflation and burgeoning social unrest. Does anyone really believe that Washington would let that to happen when it has a “brand-spanking” trillion dollar war machine at its disposal?

Heck, no. Besides, Washington believes it has a historic right to rule the world, which is what one would expect when the sense of entitlement and hubris reach their terminal phase. Now check out this clip from an article by economist Jack Rasmus at CounterPunch:

“Behind the sanctions is the USA objective of driving Russia out of the European economy. Europe was becoming too integrated and dependent on Russia. Not only its gas and raw materials, but trade relations and money capital flows were deepening on many fronts between Russia and Europe in general prior to the Ukraine crisis that has provided the cover for the introduction of the sanctions. Russia’s growing economic integration with Europe threatened the long term economic interests of US capitalists. Strategically, the US precipitated coup in the Ukraine can be viewed, therefore as a means by which to provoke Russian military intervention, i.e. a necessary event in order to deepen and expand economic sanctions that would ultimately sever the growing economic ties between Europe and Russia long term. That severance in turn would not only ensure US economic interests remain dominant in Europe, but would also open up new opportunities for profit making for US interests in Europe and Ukraine as well…

When the rules of the competition game between capitalists break down altogether, the result is war—i.e. the ultimate form of inter-capitalist competition.” (The Global Currency Wars, Jack Rasmus, CounterPunch)

See? Analysts on the right and left agree. Ukraine has nothing to do with sovereignty, democracy or Russian aggression. It’s plain-old cutthroat geopolitics, where the last man left standing, wins.

The United States cannot allow Russia reap the benefits of its own vast resources. Oh, no. It has to be chastised, it has to be bullied, it has to be sanctioned, isolated, threatened and intimidated. That’s how the system really works. The free market stuff is just horsecrap for the sheeple.

Russia is going to have to deal with chaotic, fratricidal wars on its borders and color-coded regime change turbulence in its capital. It will have to withstand reprisals from its trading partners, attacks on its currency and plots to eviscerate its (oil) revenues. The US will do everything in its power to poison the well, to demonize Putin, to turn Brussels against Moscow, and to sabotage the Russian economy.


Divide and conquer, that’s the ticket. Keep them at each others throats at all times. Sunni vs Shia, one ethnic Ukrainian vs the other, Russians vs Europeans. That’s Washington’s plan, and it’s a plan that never fails.

US powerbrokers are convinced that America’s economic slide can only be arrested by staking a claim in Central Asia, dismembering Russia, encircling China, and quashing all plans for an economically-integrated EU-Asia. Washington is determined to prevail in this existential conflict, to assert its hegemonic control over the two continents, and to preserve its position as the world’s only superpower.

Only Russia can stop the United States and we believe it will.

MIKE WHITNEY lives in Washington state. He is a contributor to Hopeless: Barack Obama and the Politics of Illusion (AK Press). Hopeless is also available in a Kindle edition. He can be reached at fergiewhitney@msn.com.

Washington’s War on Russia | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization


I don't think Arabs understand this well, they just have lost of their senses many times and still can't see big pictures.

Pakistan must be aware of new games via Sunni-Shia.
 
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Let's try different perspective from outsider, see what they think of current situations right now and find great points here, please read whole article below.


Washington’s War on Russia

by MIKE WHITNEY
Global Research, March 19, 2015


“In order to survive and preserve its leading role on the international stage, the US desperately needs to plunge Eurasia into chaos, (and) to cut economic ties between Europe and Asia-Pacific Region … Russia is the only (country) within this potential zone of instability that is capable of resistance. It is the only state that is ready to confront the Americans. Undermining Russia’s political will for resistance… is a vitally important task for America.”

-Nikolai Starikov, Western Financial System Is Driving It to War, Russia Insider

“Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.”

-The Wolfowitz Doctrine, the original version of the Defense Planning Guidance, authored by Under Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, leaked to the New York Times on March 7, 1992

The United States does not want a war with Russia, it simply feels that it has no choice. If the State Department hadn’t initiated a coup in Ukraine to topple the elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, then the US could not have inserted itself between Russia and the EU, thus, disrupting vital trade routes which were strengthening nations on both continents. The economic integration of Asia and Europe–including plans for high-speed rail from China (“The New Silk Road”) to the EU–poses a clear and present danger for the US whose share of global GDP continues to shrink and whose significance in the world economy continues to decline. For the United States to ignore this new rival (EU-Russia) would be the equivalent of throwing in the towel and accepting a future in which the US would face a gradual but persistent erosion of its power and influence in world affairs. No one in Washington is prepared to let that happen, which is why the US launched its proxy-war in Ukraine.

The US wants to separate the continents, “prevent the emergence of a new rival”, install a tollbooth between Europe and Asia, and establish itself as the guarantor of regional security. To that end, the US is rebuilding the Iron Curtain along a thousand mile stretch from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea. Tanks, armored vehicles and artillery are being sent to the region to reinforce a buffer zone around Europe in order to isolate Russia and to create a staging ground for future US aggression. Reports of heavy equipment and weapons deployment appear in the media on nearly a daily basis although the news is typically omitted in the US press. A quick review of some of the recent headlines will help readers to grasp the scale of the conflict that is cropping up below the radar:

“US, Bulgaria to hold Balkans military drills”, “NATO Begins Exercises In Black Sea”, “Army to send even more troops, tanks to Europe”, “Poland requests greater US military presence”, “U.S. Army sending armored convoy 1,100 miles through Europe”, “Over 120 US tanks, armored vehicles arrive in Latvia”, “US, Poland to Conduct Missile Exercise in March – Pentagon”

Get the picture? There’s a war going on, a war between the United States and Russia.

Notice how most of the headlines emphasize US involvement, not NATO. In other words, the provocations against Russia originate from Washington not Europe. This is an important point. The EU has supported US-led economic sanctions, but it’s not nearly as supportive of the military build up along the perimeter. That’s Washington’s idea and the cost is borne by the US alone. Naturally, moving tanks, armored vehicles and artillery around the world is an expensive project, but the US is more than willing to make the sacrifice if it helps to achieve its objectives.

And what are Washington’s objectives?

Interestingly, even political analysts on the far right seem to agree about that point. For example, check out this quote from STRATFOR CEO George Friedman who summed it up in a recent presentation he delivered at The Chicago Council on Foreign Affairs. He said:

“The primordial interest of the United States, over which for centuries we have fought wars–the First, the Second and Cold Wars–has been the relationship between Germany and Russia, because united there, they’re the only force that could threaten us. And to make sure that that doesn’t happen.”George Friedman at The Chicago Council on Foreign Affairs, Time 1:40 to 1:57)

Bingo. Ukraine has nothing to do with sovereignty, democracy or (alleged) Russian aggression. That’s all propaganda. It’s about power. It’s about imperial expansion. It’s about spheres of influence. It’s about staving off irreversible economic decline. It’s all part of the smash-mouth, scorched earth, take-no-prisoners geopolitical world in which we live, not the fake Disneyworld created by the western media. The US State Department and CIA toppled the elected-government in Ukraine and ordered the new junta regime to launch a desperate war of annihilation against its own people in the East, because, well, because they felt they had no other option. Had Putin’s ambitious plan to create a free trade zone between Lisbon to Vladivostok gone forward, then where would that leave the United States? Out in the cold, that’s where. The US would become an isolated island of dwindling significance whose massive account deficits and ballooning national debt would pave the way for years of brutal restructuring, declining standards of living, runaway inflation and burgeoning social unrest. Does anyone really believe that Washington would let that to happen when it has a “brand-spanking” trillion dollar war machine at its disposal?

Heck, no. Besides, Washington believes it has a historic right to rule the world, which is what one would expect when the sense of entitlement and hubris reach their terminal phase. Now check out this clip from an article by economist Jack Rasmus at CounterPunch:

“Behind the sanctions is the USA objective of driving Russia out of the European economy. Europe was becoming too integrated and dependent on Russia. Not only its gas and raw materials, but trade relations and money capital flows were deepening on many fronts between Russia and Europe in general prior to the Ukraine crisis that has provided the cover for the introduction of the sanctions. Russia’s growing economic integration with Europe threatened the long term economic interests of US capitalists. Strategically, the US precipitated coup in the Ukraine can be viewed, therefore as a means by which to provoke Russian military intervention, i.e. a necessary event in order to deepen and expand economic sanctions that would ultimately sever the growing economic ties between Europe and Russia long term. That severance in turn would not only ensure US economic interests remain dominant in Europe, but would also open up new opportunities for profit making for US interests in Europe and Ukraine as well…

When the rules of the competition game between capitalists break down altogether, the result is war—i.e. the ultimate form of inter-capitalist competition.” (The Global Currency Wars, Jack Rasmus, CounterPunch)

See? Analysts on the right and left agree. Ukraine has nothing to do with sovereignty, democracy or Russian aggression. It’s plain-old cutthroat geopolitics, where the last man left standing, wins.

The United States cannot allow Russia reap the benefits of its own vast resources. Oh, no. It has to be chastised, it has to be bullied, it has to be sanctioned, isolated, threatened and intimidated. That’s how the system really works. The free market stuff is just horsecrap for the sheeple.

Russia is going to have to deal with chaotic, fratricidal wars on its borders and color-coded regime change turbulence in its capital. It will have to withstand reprisals from its trading partners, attacks on its currency and plots to eviscerate its (oil) revenues. The US will do everything in its power to poison the well, to demonize Putin, to turn Brussels against Moscow, and to sabotage the Russian economy.


Divide and conquer, that’s the ticket. Keep them at each others throats at all times. Sunni vs Shia, one ethnic Ukrainian vs the other, Russians vs Europeans. That’s Washington’s plan, and it’s a plan that never fails.

US powerbrokers are convinced that America’s economic slide can only be arrested by staking a claim in Central Asia, dismembering Russia, encircling China, and quashing all plans for an economically-integrated EU-Asia. Washington is determined to prevail in this existential conflict, to assert its hegemonic control over the two continents, and to preserve its position as the world’s only superpower.

Only Russia can stop the United States and we believe it will.

MIKE WHITNEY lives in Washington state. He is a contributor to Hopeless: Barack Obama and the Politics of Illusion (AK Press). Hopeless is also available in a Kindle edition. He can be reached at fergiewhitney@msn.com.

Washington’s War on Russia | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization


I don't think Arabs understand this well, they just have lost of their senses many times and still can't see big pictures.

Pakistan must be aware of new games via Sunni-Shia.
im glad pakistan didnt send any troops to yemen.... that would have created more tensions between sunni/shia pakistanis
 
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im glad pakistan didnt send any troops to yemen.... that would have created more tensions between sunni/shia pakistanis

Yaar we didn't send expensive troops but simple few Pakistan warships to monitor Yemen coast, our weak Navy need ton of practices and test their skills in overseas.

More details:
Pakistan agrees to send ships to block arms shipments to Yemen rebels

Interesting:
"Pakistani media reports have claimed Saudi Arabia’s request for Pakistani forces in support of the campaign in Yemen was nuanced by a demand that any Shiite Muslim soldiers be excluded.

“The reported Saudi request for sectarian screening of the troops would be upsetting to the armed forces, which have prided themselves on preserving themselves from this divide,” said Mohammed Afzal Niazi, executive editor of The Nation, an English-language daily newspaper politically aligned with the prime minister’s Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz party.

Saudi Arabia’s suspicions toward Shiite Pakistani soldiers have strained relations in the past.

In 1982, Pakistan deployed 12,000 soldiers in the kingdom, which feared Iranian military reprisals for the Arab Persian Gulf monarchies’ support for Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war. They were withdrawn in 1987 after Islamabad refused to comply with Riyadh’s demand for a list of Shiite Pakistani army officers."

 
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Yaar we didn't send expensive troops but simple few Pakistan warships to monitor Yemen coast, our weak Navy need ton of practices and test their skills in overseas.

More details:
Pakistan agrees to send ships to block arms shipments to Yemen rebels

Interesting:
"Pakistani media reports have claimed Saudi Arabia’s request for Pakistani forces in support of the campaign in Yemen was nuanced by a demand that any Shiite Muslim soldiers be excluded.

“The reported Saudi request for sectarian screening of the troops would be upsetting to the armed forces, which have prided themselves on preserving themselves from this divide,” said Mohammed Afzal Niazi, executive editor of The Nation, an English-language daily newspaper politically aligned with the prime minister’s Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz party.

Saudi Arabia’s suspicions toward Shiite Pakistani soldiers have strained relations in the past.

In 1982, Pakistan deployed 12,000 soldiers in the kingdom, which feared Iranian military reprisals for the Arab Persian Gulf monarchies’ support for Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war. They were withdrawn in 1987 after Islamabad refused to comply with Riyadh’s demand for a list of Shiite Pakistani army officers."
We should not and cannot afford to become part of the sectarian war. Saudi already provides funds to the Lashkar E Jhangvi and the said organization has killed off at least 6000 hazaras and even more shias. We should take no action that is against the secular make up of the Pakistan army.

If one body has succeeded in being secular it is the Pakistan army and such secularism is the way forward for our beautiful country.
 
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We should not and cannot afford to become part of the sectarian war. Saudi already provides funds to the Lashkar E Jhangvi and the said organization has killed off at least 6000 hazaras and even more shias. We should take no action that is against the secular make up of the Pakistan army.

If one body has succeeded in being secular it is the Pakistan army and such secularism is the way forward for our beautiful country.
If we don't go in chances of Pakistan facing sectarian war are more as compare to if we go in
 
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Yaar we didn't send expensive troops but simple few Pakistan warships to monitor Yemen coast, our weak Navy need ton of practices and test their skills in overseas.

More details:
Pakistan agrees to send ships to block arms shipments to Yemen rebels

Interesting:
"Pakistani media reports have claimed Saudi Arabia’s request for Pakistani forces in support of the campaign in Yemen was nuanced by a demand that any Shiite Muslim soldiers be excluded.

“The reported Saudi request for sectarian screening of the troops would be upsetting to the armed forces, which have prided themselves on preserving themselves from this divide,” said Mohammed Afzal Niazi, executive editor of The Nation, an English-language daily newspaper politically aligned with the prime minister’s Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz party.

Saudi Arabia’s suspicions toward Shiite Pakistani soldiers have strained relations in the past.

In 1982, Pakistan deployed 12,000 soldiers in the kingdom, which feared Iranian military reprisals for the Arab Persian Gulf monarchies’ support for Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war. They were withdrawn in 1987 after Islamabad refused to comply with Riyadh’s demand for a list of Shiite Pakistani army officers."
these Arab monarchies are obsessed with sectarianism this is no wonder that Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram, TTP and LeJ all share their takfiri ideology and genocidal ideology. none of them have ever attacked against each other
you wont see ISIS ever attacking them or ISIS getting bombed by them instead they are both indirectly supporting each other in their fight against Iranian backed Assad or shia majority Iraqi government.

If we don't go in chances of Pakistan facing sectarian war are more as compare to if we go in
if joining American war on terror was wrong because it was never our war then joining Saudi aggression on Yemen will be even a bigger blunder.
it was an internal conflict of Yemen a civil uprising against the government where no other country had any business and if Saudis made it their business then fine but we have nothing to do with it.

our decision to stay out or join in this war shouldn't be based on sectarianism but a simple pragmatism , Yemen has never done anything to us it has not harmed us it cant harm KSA. it has no means to reach even the KSA border and survive let alone travel thousands of miles into KSA to put holy sites at risk it will be obliterated by Saudi F15s , Typhoons and Apachies even before crossing the borders.
Saudis simply need cannon fodder in the ground offensive if you think loosing thousands of Pakistanis for a Saudi inspired aggression is a good call and will some how bring harmony among the shia and sunni in Pakistan then you are mistaken

what it will do is bring grief and devastation among tens of thousands of Sunni families in Pakistan who will loose their sons lives and limbs (note that KSA only wants sunni soldiers).
 
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these Arab monarchies are obsessed with sectarianism this is no wonder that Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram, TTP and LeJ all share their takfiri ideology and genocidal ideology. none of them have ever attacked against each other
you wont see ISIS ever attacking them or ISIS getting bombed by them instead they are both indirectly supporting each other in their fight against Iranian backed Assad or shia majority Iraqi government.


if joining American war on terror was wrong because it was never our war then joining Saudi aggression on Yemen will be even a bigger blunder.
it was an internal conflict of Yemen a civil uprising against the government where no other country had any business and if Saudis made it their business then fine but we have nothing to do with it.

our decision to stay out or join in this war shouldn't be based on sectarianism but a simple pragmatism , Yemen has never done anything to us it has not harmed us it cant harm KSA. it has no means to reach even the KSA border and survive let alone travel thousands of miles into KSA to put holy sites at risk it will be obliterated by Saudi F15s , Typhoons and Apachies even before crossing the borders.
Saudis simply need cannon fodder in the ground offensive if you think loosing thousands of Pakistanis for a Saudi inspired aggression is a good call and will some how bring harmony among the shia and sunni in Pakistan then you are mistaken

what it will do is bring grief and devastation among tens of thousands of Sunni families in Pakistan who will loose their sons lives and limbs (note that KSA only wants sunni soldiers).
Okay sit home and do nothing you will soon realize you just made the biggest blunder of Pakistan history @Jungibaaz Yes Please do nothing and wait to end up seeing which neither I nor you will like it
 
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Okay sit home and do nothing you will soon realize you just made the biggest blunder of Pakistan history @Jungibaaz Yes Please do nothing and wait to end up seeing which neither I nor you will like it
when are you going to join the war against yemen .. msaulvi sdahab! or u just a keyboard warrior?
 
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Okay sit home and do nothing you will soon realize you just made the biggest blunder of Pakistan history @Jungibaaz Yes Please do nothing and wait to end up seeing which neither I nor you will like it

Explain.

Next time you reply, explain, make sure you post a few paragraphs backed with logic and argument. Tell me why you think intervention is a good idea, or even a better idea than neutrality.

When you give me a useless one-liner over and over again. I am obliged to call you an ideological fool, you give me nothing to argue your point.

Explain, back your argument, other wise your words are useless.
 
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Lebanese (Iranian) Hasan Nasrullah's group is openly recruiting Pakistanis on social media there are even telephone numbers, hope LEAs are taking care of it.
 
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Okay sit home and do nothing you will soon realize you just made the biggest blunder of Pakistan history @Jungibaaz Yes Please do nothing and wait to end up seeing which neither I nor you will like it
tell me how becoming a cannon fodder for the Saudis will save us somehow?
are you suggesting that by not joining this war UAE will put its threats into action by openly supporting Lashker Jhangvi, BLA and TTP?
if thats the case then yes we must be concerned. and in no way sending troops can be a solution. complying to their demands under duress? what kind of brotherhood is that?
 
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Pakistan is already fighting a war in Waziristan, there is sectarianism at home with the Lashkar E Jhangvi and the Sipah E Muhammed. If we say jumping into the war on terror on US insistence was wrong then how can we justify doing the same thing for Saudi arabia?

Are we going to begin screening our army based on their demands and throwing out shia soldiers in our secular army to fit their idiotic demands? I think for once we are criticizing the arab states and it is for our own good. For examples Saudis and Emaratis have been hunting the houbara bustard almost into non existence. Our slave mentality forces us to provide them such hunting grounds and some sheikhs have hunted over a 100 of those birds which are endangered. We have a habit of lying down before every major power be it US or Saudia. This is why we have never managed to become independent nor have we managed to build a spine.

Pakistan should not even have imposed the UN injunction on the Houtis. Yemen belongs to Yemen, Afghanistan to Afghanistan and Pakistan to Pakistan. While we're at it we must also say that the gulf funds the Lashkar E Jhangvi which in turn kills Pakistani civilians.
 
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Pakistan is already fighting a war in Waziristan, there is sectarianism at home with the Lashkar E Jhangvi and the Sipah E Muhammed. If we say jumping into the war on terror on US insistence was wrong then how can we justify doing the same thing for Saudi arabia?

Are we going to begin screening our army based on their demands and throwing out shia soldiers in our secular army to fit their idiotic demands? I think for once we are criticizing the arab states and it is for our own good. For examples Saudis and Emaratis have been hunting the houbara bustard almost into non existence. Our slave mentality forces us to provide them such hunting grounds and some sheikhs have hunted over a 100 of those birds which are endangered. We have a habit of lying down before every major power be it US or Saudia. This is why we have never managed to become independent nor have we managed to build a spine.

Pakistan should not even have imposed the UN injunction on the Houtis. Yemen belongs to Yemen, Afghanistan to Afghanistan and Pakistan to Pakistan. While we're at it we must also say that the gulf funds the Lashkar E Jhangvi which in turn kills Pakistani civilians.

Houthi rebels consist of

Zaidi clan
Hasadi clan
Sufyani clan
Saroor clan
Al Durafi clan
except the Zaidis all others are Sunni clans (a fact unknown to innocent Pakistanis) and they are fighting because their demand for elections was turned down. Sadly the Saudis and their allies have termed it a sectarian war and an attack on KSA and Hijaz although the rebels are facing Eden with their back to the KSA border.
 
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if joining American war on terror was wrong because it was never our war then joining Saudi aggression on Yemen will be even a bigger blunder..

Irfan bhai jaan,

With due respect, you probably did not mean this way but so many Pakistani intellectuals still are confused.

Afghan war and later anti-terror war was ALWAYS ours.
We lost so much because we dilly dallied from day-1.

Instead of taking charge of our country and our territory and our region, we became fiddlers on hot tin roof.
Like Nero in Rome,
Like Zafar in Dilli.

2-bit Mulllah turds started defining our way of life
Burqaposhes still issue threats from within our capital's mosque.

it was always OUR war,
We just refused to accept the reality
and thus lost so many innocent lives.

What happened in APS happened to Malala and countless kids before her.
And still happening.

But in our $tupidity we keep calling it American war or sectarian war or something more delusional.

Reality!

When a mullah of any variety attacks us or our allies in the region,
it can no longer be brushed under the carpet as "sectarian" or American.

Anarchists in Yemen are united with anarchists in other parts of our region.
yet we keep on refusing to unite against them.

Why?

so many Pakistanis believe in constipated conspiracy theories.
And thus refuse to see the reality.


Thank you.
 
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