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Pakistan Must Rehabilitate The Displaced From Kargil War

Aliyan Abdul Salam

July 31, 2020

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Like every other year along the Line of Control, the Indian army had vacated the mountain peaks before winter. So did Pakistan as it was part of an understanding due to the unwelcoming weather. But the Pakistani military had other plans, it had wanted to occupy the peaks on the other side of the border in Kargil in the winter of 1999.

In a matter of days, this operation turned into a war that no one expected. Pakistan army wanted to block the road that connected Srinagar to Leh, disconnecting Ladakh and Siachen from the mainland, a step that the Indian army never expected. The war, however, lasted three months.

It cost 500 hundred soldier’s lives to India in an operation named Vijay. The number on the Pakistan side is between 400 to 4,000 and the name given to the operation was Al-Badr.

When called for talks, the Indian government put down the Pakistan proposal and asked for an immediate evacuation of Pakistan-back intruders from Kargil, a tough condition for dialogue. Pakistan categorically rejected any involvement in the infiltration, adding they were Kashmiri militants fighting Indian occupation.

Pakistan initially refused to acknowledge their involvement in the intrusion, but finally, they had to accept it. The war ended up with India successfully pushing back Pakistan.

On the Tiger Hill, the Indian army buried 30 Pakistan army personnel. One of them was Captain Karnal Sher Khan. An Indian brigadier was very touched by the bravery of Sher khan. As Captain Sher was killed in action, before sending the body to the Delhi, brigadier M.P.S Bajwa had urged his general commanding officer to write an appreciative letter in the citation of the bravery he showed in the field. He even put a praising note in his pocket which eventually led to getting him the highest gallantry award Nishan-e-Haider.

More than a hundred thousand people were displaced from Kargil, Leh and Jammu. About 20,000 people left their villages and only 30% of them returned. A 33 year old Zainab told BBC that when her village Ganokh was caught in the line of fire, her family headed to Skardu and then Islamabad. Thousands of civilians lost their homes, cattle, and other belongings on both sides of the LoC.

But the Indian side was able to return to their homes. On Pakistan’s side, the war victims are wandering in search for a permanent shelter. Zainab’s family managed to find a hut in a slum located in Islamabad. “This is mainly due to the absence of any government-led rehabilitation program, or because their lands have been taken over by the army,” according to Wazir Farman a member of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan.

https://nayadaur.tv/2020/07/pakistan-must-rehabilitate-the-displaced-from-kargil-war/
 
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4000? Might as well make it 10,000 for a nice, round number.

Why not?

The point was elsewhere, but of course, deflecting the message and mocking a peripheral issue is always useful.

The number on the Pakistan side is between 400 to 4,000 and the name given to the operation was Al-Badr.

@blain2

Would the figure 400 make the post acceptable? Since I was not there and am still alive, unlike those who were there and died for their country, for Pakistan or for India, I am able to make this suggestion for a compromise with the greatest of ease. Perhaps you might care to agree, and settle this very major issue about numbers that it seems overshadows everything else.
 
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Pakistan initially refused to acknowledge their involvement in the intrusion, but finally, they had to accept it. The war ended up with India successfully pushing back Pakistan.

On the Tiger Hill, the Indian army buried 30 Pakistan army personnel. One of them was Captain Karnal Sher Khan. An Indian brigadier was very touched by the bravery of Sher khan. As Captain Sher was killed in action, before sending the body to the Delhi, brigadier M.P.S Bajwa had urged his general commanding officer to write an appreciative letter in the citation of the bravery he showed in the field. He even put a praising note in his pocket which eventually led to getting him the highest gallantry award Nishan-e-Haider.

He was not the only Pakistani soldier cited for bravery by Indians and awarded a decoration by Pakistan.
 
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Why not?

The point was elsewhere, but of course, deflecting the message and mocking a peripheral issue is always useful.



@blain2

Would the figure 400 make the post acceptable? Since I was not there and am still alive, unlike those who were there and died for their country, for Pakistan or for India, I am able to make this suggestion for a compromise with the greatest of ease. Perhaps you might care to agree, and settle this very major issue about numbers that it seems overshadows everything else.

My issue is not over the loss of life in the war which is bad any which way one looks at it. It the 400-4000 numbers thrown about with abandon and then used as propaganda. As it is, everything concerning Pak-India is exaggerated.
 
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My issue is not over the loss of life in the war which is bad any which way one looks at it. It the 400-4000 numbers thrown about with abandon and then used as propaganda. As it is, everything concerning Pak-India is exaggerated.

I agree, and regret it. The person making that post seems to have quoted another composition in its entirety without the slightest effort to look at the details.

It is with the utmost sincerity that I say that I share your feelings. There are incidents, even ongoing provocations, that could be mentioned, but that would only cause you to draw back and take it as 'whataboutery'. Personally, other than pointing out the facts, I try not to be drawn (this is a very, very late realisation on my part:D).
 
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Classic Indian chanakiya. Civilians housed next to the LoC draw condemnation for Pakistan placing them in harm's way. Civilians away from the LoC are deprived of their homes by an arrogant army that owns a nation.

This particular OP has remarkable form in posting such articles and engaging in very basic selection bias.

Of course, he'll deny it when confronted because he's Dutch or Surinamese or some other "non-Indian neutral" derivation.

Any code of conduct should first and foremost demand a declaration of possible conflicting interests by ANY poster. If you read professional publications in any sphere, there is always a disclaimer regarding potential conflicts of interest. That is the purpose of flags in this forum. In the absence of flags, something about nationality placed in the signature or inherent in the pen-name would also suffice.
 
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Pakistan Must Rehabilitate The Displaced From Kargil War

Aliyan Abdul Salam

July 31, 2020

Nawaz-and-Musharraf-in-Kargil.jpg


Like every other year along the Line of Control, the Indian army had vacated the mountain peaks before winter. So did Pakistan as it was part of an understanding due to the unwelcoming weather. But the Pakistani military had other plans, it had wanted to occupy the peaks on the other side of the border in Kargil in the winter of 1999.

In a matter of days, this operation turned into a war that no one expected. Pakistan army wanted to block the road that connected Srinagar to Leh, disconnecting Ladakh and Siachen from the mainland, a step that the Indian army never expected. The war, however, lasted three months.

It cost 500 hundred soldier’s lives to India in an operation named Vijay. The number on the Pakistan side is between 400 to 4,000 and the name given to the operation was Al-Badr.

When called for talks, the Indian government put down the Pakistan proposal and asked for an immediate evacuation of Pakistan-back intruders from Kargil, a tough condition for dialogue. Pakistan categorically rejected any involvement in the infiltration, adding they were Kashmiri militants fighting Indian occupation.

Pakistan initially refused to acknowledge their involvement in the intrusion, but finally, they had to accept it. The war ended up with India successfully pushing back Pakistan.

On the Tiger Hill, the Indian army buried 30 Pakistan army personnel. One of them was Captain Karnal Sher Khan. An Indian brigadier was very touched by the bravery of Sher khan. As Captain Sher was killed in action, before sending the body to the Delhi, brigadier M.P.S Bajwa had urged his general commanding officer to write an appreciative letter in the citation of the bravery he showed in the field. He even put a praising note in his pocket which eventually led to getting him the highest gallantry award Nishan-e-Haider.

More than a hundred thousand people were displaced from Kargil, Leh and Jammu. About 20,000 people left their villages and only 30% of them returned. A 33 year old Zainab told BBC that when her village Ganokh was caught in the line of fire, her family headed to Skardu and then Islamabad. Thousands of civilians lost their homes, cattle, and other belongings on both sides of the LoC.

But the Indian side was able to return to their homes. On Pakistan’s side, the war victims are wandering in search for a permanent shelter. Zainab’s family managed to find a hut in a slum located in Islamabad. “This is mainly due to the absence of any government-led rehabilitation program, or because their lands have been taken over by the army,” according to Wazir Farman a member of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan.

https://nayadaur.tv/2020/07/pakistan-must-rehabilitate-the-displaced-from-kargil-war/
ganokh is well settled nd thriving now.
 
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@Joe Shearer

I agree, and regret it. The person making that post seems to have quoted another composition in its entirety without the slightest effort to look at the details.

I do not know if you are talking about me when you said this, but I did check the number of 400 - 4000.
On the Wikipedia page of the Kargil War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War) you can see the casualties from both sides (see part of screenshot below).

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As you can see is that the numbers of casualties at the Pakistani side range from 357 - 4000 (with sources to back them up) which shows that the range given in the article from 400 - 4000 does not differ that much. Maybe the writer of the article used Wikipedia for the number of casualties.

Also the number of Indian casualties are listed as 527 above which roughly corresponds with the 500 given in the article. However Musharraf claimed that there were 1600 Indian deaths. So, it would have been more honest of the writer (if he is aware of these numbers) to write the number of Indian deaths in the range of 500 - 1600.
That I agree with.


@Pakistan Ka Beta

We all know whats Nayadaur agenda is .

This is the first time I posted an article from this site, so I do not know what their agenda is.


@masterchief_mirza

Classic Indian chanakiya. Civilians housed next to the LoC draw condemnation for Pakistan placing them in harm's way. Civilians away from the LoC are deprived of their homes by an arrogant army that owns a nation.

The article was written by a Pakistani.
How can this be Indian chanakya?
Or is anyone who criticises the Pakistani army a traitor?

This particular OP has remarkable form in posting such articles and engaging in very basic selection bias.

I post articles about everything.
So, how can that be selection bias?

Of course, he'll deny it when confronted because he's Dutch or Surinamese or some other "non-Indian neutral" derivation.

Well, (for the thousandth time) I was born in Paramaribo, Suriname. I am a Surinamese Hindustani. I am a descendant of British Indian contract labourers who where brought to Suriname to work on the fields there.
And I am currently living in the Netherlands (of which Suriname was a colony until 1975, the year of independence).

Any code of conduct should first and foremost demand a declaration of possible conflicting interests by ANY poster. If you read professional publications in any sphere, there is always a disclaimer regarding potential conflicts of interest.

You do realise that this is forum and not a scientific journal?
And I have no conflict of interest.

That is the purpose of flags in this forum.

I did choose the Surinamese flag, but that is not visible.
I do not think that the Surinamese flag is made and available on PDF.
The flag of the Netherlands however is, as you can see.

In the absence of flags, something about nationality placed in the signature or inherent in the pen-name would also suffice.

I have placed something about my nationality in my signature.
Especially for you.

P.S.
If you have something to say, do not talk about me, but talk to me.
 
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I do not know if you are talking about me when you said this, but I did check the number of 400 - 4000.
On the Wikipedia page of the Kargil War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War) you can see the casualties from both sides (see part of screenshot below).

If you did, and it seems you did, I was wrong to think you careless, and am sorry I said so.
 
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The article was written by a Pakistani.
How can this be Indian chanakya?
Or is anyone who criticises the Pakistani army a traitor?
Oh dear. You're really implying that Pakistanis cannot work for the Indian agenda?? That's not even an argument.
 
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