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Pakistan is too difficult to rule

Pakistan is too difficult to rule


The government is floundering, but fears of a military intervention seem unfounded at present

* By Con Coughlin, Telegraph
* Published: 00:04 August 31, 2010
* Gulf News



The besieged government of President Asif Ali Zardari is assailed on all fronts by man-made conflict and natural disaster and there is a palpable sense in Islamabad that the return of the generals to the presidential palace would come as something of a relief.

As if fighting a war against a determined enemy like the Taliban wasn't a difficult enough challenge, Zardari now finds himself struggling to restore his credibility after a less-than-convincing response to the catastrophe of the flooding. To grasp the scale of the task facing the president, you need look no further than the American drone strikes that are being launched against suspected Taliban militants, at the same time as relief workers are struggling to save millions of homeless and hungry Pakistanis.

Before the monsoon waters broke, Zardari was under intense pressure from his allies to do more to counter the militant groups that pose as great a threat to Pakistan's government as they do to the security of the West.

A measure of the challenge involved in restoring security in this cricket-crazy country is that the national team is obliged to play its international fixtures overseas following last year's brutal attack on the Sri Lankan team in Lahore, which killed eight people, including six policemen.

David Cameron's blunt declaration that Pakistan was looking both ways in the fight against terrorism may not have won him many friends in the Zardari government. But it certainly articulated the deeply held view of many western policy-makers that it could do more to tackle extremism.

Bitter criticism

Now, following the widespread devastation unleashed by the floods, the president finds himself the subject of bitter criticism at home as well. It began with his ill-considered decision to continue with his tour of France and Britain earlier this month as the crisis deepened, when he visited his elegant chateau and made arrangements to launch the political career of his 21-year-old son, Bilawal Zardari Bhutto.

Now his opponents are directing their ire at the government's inept response to the wider crisis caused by the floods. In a country where most of the agricultural wealth is concentrated in the hands of a few feudal landlords, the misery being experienced by millions of citizens is inevitably going to stoke the fires of dissent.

Atlaf Hussain, the exiled leader of the Muttahida Quami Movement, articulated the suspicions of many Pakistanis when he accused some landlords of deliberately diverting the waters to neighbouring villages in order to protect their own crops and livestock. He is now demanding a French Revolution-style redistribution of land among the masses, and has issued a call to "patriotic generals" to fulfil their duty by establishing martial law. However, what is different about this crisis is that, for once, the generals don't appear at all interested in taking responsibility for a country that is teetering on the verge of collapse.

Pakistan has a history of military coups, many initiated to tackle the corruption and ineptitude of civilian administrations. The country's most recent military dictatorship, under General Pervez Musharraf, was instigated in 1999, in part due to allegations of corruption against the government of Nawaz Sharif, the current leader of the opposition. He, in turn, had replaced Benazir Bhutto, Zardari's murdered wife, who had been dismissed over allegations of corruption.

Since winning independence in 1947, Pakistan has endured more years of military dictatorship than civilian rule. Yet on this occasion, the military appears disinclined to enter the political fray. This is partly because it is still recovering from the bruising experience of Musharraf's nine-year rule. It is just two years since he departed his homeland to live in exile in London. But even though he worked stoically to hold the country together, particularly during the tumult that followed the September 11 attacks, his tenure ended in opprobrium, as he was accused of excessive pro-Americanism and trying to destroy the independence of the judiciary.

Many of those now running Pakistan's military, such as General Ashfaq Kiyani, the army chief, and Lieutenant General Ahmad Pasha, the head of the ISI intelligence service, are Musharraf's proteges, and have little desire to suffer the humiliation heaped on the former dictator by the current civilian administration, which has threatened to prosecute him for alleged abuse of power. They also have their hands full fighting a bitter counter-insurgency campaign against the Taliban and its allies, as well as supporting Nato's effort to bring stability to Afghanistan.

Of course, if they felt the country's very survival were in jeopardy because of the political fallout from the flooding crisis, even the most apolitical military officers might feel obliged to involve themselves. That is certainly what happened the last time the country faced a disaster on this scale: in 1970, the Pakistani government's totally inadequate response to the cyclone that devastated the coast of what was then East Pakistan, killing between 300,000 and 500,000 people, ultimately caused the civil war that resulted in the creation of Bangladesh.

The death toll from this month's flood is — for the moment, at least — only a fraction of that figure. But the government's handling of the crisis has revived perceptions that the country's political elite is interested only in taking care of its own interests.

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Pakistan is too difficult to rule

Pakistan is too difficult to rule


The government is floundering, but fears of a military intervention seem unfounded at present

* By Con Coughlin, Telegraph
* Published: 00:04 August 31, 2010
* Gulf News



The besieged government of President Asif Ali Zardari is assailed on all fronts by man-made conflict and natural disaster and there is a palpable sense in Islamabad that the return of the generals to the presidential palace would come as something of a relief.

As if fighting a war against a determined enemy like the Taliban wasn't a difficult enough challenge, Zardari now finds himself struggling to restore his credibility after a less-than-convincing response to the catastrophe of the flooding. To grasp the scale of the task facing the president, you need look no further than the American drone strikes that are being launched against suspected Taliban militants, at the same time as relief workers are struggling to save millions of homeless and hungry Pakistanis.

Before the monsoon waters broke, Zardari was under intense pressure from his allies to do more to counter the militant groups that pose as great a threat to Pakistan's government as they do to the security of the West.

A measure of the challenge involved in restoring security in this cricket-crazy country is that the national team is obliged to play its international fixtures overseas following last year's brutal attack on the Sri Lankan team in Lahore, which killed eight people, including six policemen.

David Cameron's blunt declaration that Pakistan was looking both ways in the fight against terrorism may not have won him many friends in the Zardari government. But it certainly articulated the deeply held view of many western policy-makers that it could do more to tackle extremism.

Bitter criticism

Now, following the widespread devastation unleashed by the floods, the president finds himself the subject of bitter criticism at home as well. It began with his ill-considered decision to continue with his tour of France and Britain earlier this month as the crisis deepened, when he visited his elegant chateau and made arrangements to launch the political career of his 21-year-old son, Bilawal Zardari Bhutto.

Now his opponents are directing their ire at the government's inept response to the wider crisis caused by the floods. In a country where most of the agricultural wealth is concentrated in the hands of a few feudal landlords, the misery being experienced by millions of citizens is inevitably going to stoke the fires of dissent.

Atlaf Hussain, the exiled leader of the Muttahida Quami Movement, articulated the suspicions of many Pakistanis when he accused some landlords of deliberately diverting the waters to neighbouring villages in order to protect their own crops and livestock. He is now demanding a French Revolution-style redistribution of land among the masses, and has issued a call to "patriotic generals" to fulfil their duty by establishing martial law. However, what is different about this crisis is that, for once, the generals don't appear at all interested in taking responsibility for a country that is teetering on the verge of collapse.

Pakistan has a history of military coups, many initiated to tackle the corruption and ineptitude of civilian administrations. The country's most recent military dictatorship, under General Pervez Musharraf, was instigated in 1999, in part due to allegations of corruption against the government of Nawaz Sharif, the current leader of the opposition. He, in turn, had replaced Benazir Bhutto, Zardari's murdered wife, who had been dismissed over allegations of corruption.

Since winning independence in 1947, Pakistan has endured more years of military dictatorship than civilian rule. Yet on this occasion, the military appears disinclined to enter the political fray. This is partly because it is still recovering from the bruising experience of Musharraf's nine-year rule. It is just two years since he departed his homeland to live in exile in London. But even though he worked stoically to hold the country together, particularly during the tumult that followed the September 11 attacks, his tenure ended in opprobrium, as he was accused of excessive pro-Americanism and trying to destroy the independence of the judiciary.

Many of those now running Pakistan's military, such as General Ashfaq Kiyani, the army chief, and Lieutenant General Ahmad Pasha, the head of the ISI intelligence service, are Musharraf's proteges, and have little desire to suffer the humiliation heaped on the former dictator by the current civilian administration, which has threatened to prosecute him for alleged abuse of power. They also have their hands full fighting a bitter counter-insurgency campaign against the Taliban and its allies, as well as supporting Nato's effort to bring stability to Afghanistan.

Of course, if they felt the country's very survival were in jeopardy because of the political fallout from the flooding crisis, even the most apolitical military officers might feel obliged to involve themselves. That is certainly what happened the last time the country faced a disaster on this scale: in 1970, the Pakistani government's totally inadequate response to the cyclone that devastated the coast of what was then East Pakistan, killing between 300,000 and 500,000 people, ultimately caused the civil war that resulted in the creation of Bangladesh.

The death toll from this month's flood is — for the moment, at least — only a fraction of that figure. But the government's handling of the crisis has revived perceptions that the country's political elite is interested only in taking care of its own interests.

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What utter rubbish!

No country is too good, too bad, too easy, or too difficult to rule.

You know why?

because the common man is the same everywhere. All he wants is a little bit if food, a place under the sun and his dignity.

It's the job of the rulers to provide all this to their subjects. If they don't, they have only themselves to blame. No1 is born bad. One is made bad.

Pakistan's situation today is sad.
Pakistan's rulers have failed their country. India, thankfully was not so unlucky. There's something very remarkable I like about Indian politicians.

They might be helluva corrupt.
They might be helluva selfish.
They might be helluva stupid.

But you know what? Once they come into power, they all work for the country. Corruption etc. toh sab karte hain yaar. But at least Indian politicians corruption karne ke baad kaam bhi karte hain.

Remember what lalu did for the railways.
Nuclear deal was started by BJP and when congress was in opposition they opposed it. But when congress came to power, they too carried it forward because that was in the larger national interest.

The common pakistani is not very different from the common Indian.

But the common Pakistani ruler is very different from the common Indian ruler.

Sorry to say, but Pakistani rulers just don't know how to run their country.
 
What utter rubbish!

No country is too good, too bad, too easy, or too difficult to rule.

You know why?

because the common man is the same everywhere. All he wants is a little bit if food, a place under the sun and his dignity.

It's the job of the rulers to provide all this to their subjects. If they don't, they have only themselves to blame. No1 is born bad. One is made bad.

Pakistan's situation today is sad.
Pakistan's rulers have failed their country. India, thankfully was not so unlucky. There's something very remarkable I like about Indian politicians.

They might be helluva corrupt.
They might be helluva selfish.
They might be helluva stupid.

But you know what? Once they come into power, they all work for the country. Corruption etc. toh sab karte hain yaar. But at least Indian politicians corruption karne ke baad kaam bhi karte hain.

Remember what lalu did for the railways.
Nuclear deal was started by BJP and when congress was in opposition they opposed it. But when congress came to power, they too carried it forward because that was in the larger national interest.

The common pakistani is not very different from the common Indian.

But the common Pakistani ruler is very different from the common Indian ruler.

Sorry to say, but Pakistani rulers just don't know how to run their country.

Well if you have the time you must go through Time magazine during the 50s and early 60s. Every issue carried an article predicting India's Break up and lauding Pakistan. Where did that Pakistan go? What happened to it? Where did they lose their way?
 
Well if you have the time you must go through Time magazine during the 50s and early 60s. Every issue carried an article predicting India's Break up and lauding Pakistan. Where did that Pakistan go? What happened to it? Where did they lose their way?

It's very simple na...rulers!

Pakistani rulers always kept their economy on booster doses from US/UK etc.

They never took tough decisions.

Yaar rulers are like parents. They must be farsighted. They must have vision.

Jinnah was one such leader.

Had jinnah lived, Pakistan would have been a drastically different state today. Because Jinnah had a vision.


Unfortunately, those who followed Jinnah only looted the common man and lacked any vision. The result of which is in front of all of us today.
 
Well if you have the time you must go through Time magazine during the 50s and early 60s. Every issue carried an article predicting India's Break up and lauding Pakistan. Where did that Pakistan go? What happened to it? Where did they lose their way?

dont worry bro, where there is light their is dark, and we are not far in the closet that we cant see the light, first we were lauding Pakistan now you are lauding India in future both will be lauded and Europe will be breaking up (no offense:lol:,):tup:
 
dont worry bro, where there is light their is dark, and we are not far in the closet that we cant see the light, first we were lauding Pakistan now you are lauding India in future both will be lauded and Europe will be breaking up (no offense:lol:,):tup:

@Off topic,

O jee I toh sincerely hope that by the time I grow old, the space tech. is developed well enough to support human colonies on moon/mars.

I can't even imagine sitting on my armchair sipping a bottle of Heineken beer and watching the stars from the surface of the red planet.


What would it be like...:hang2:
 
Well if you have the time you must go through Time magazine during the 50s and early 60s. Every issue carried an article predicting India's Break up and lauding Pakistan. Where did that Pakistan go? What happened to it? Where did they lose their way?

People like Jinnah L.A.Khan and Bhutto were killed or died off... That is what happened. And then a light bulb went off in the heads of the military top brass and the Feudal lords... "Hey here is a good racket, lets run for elections".

That is what happened!
 
The common Pakistani is very impatient, whenever a govt comes to power the people expect to see changes the moment they step into parliament, when civilians come to power the people long for the military and when the military comes to power the people want democracy. Pakistan is indeed difficult to govern because the people lack the sense to know what's best for them, we are better off with a military junta system.
 
People like Jinnah L.A.Khan and Bhutto were killed or died off... That is what happened. And then a light bulb went off in the heads of the military top brass and the Feudal lords... "Hey here is a good racket, lets run for elections".

That is what happened!

Bhutto was a visionary but he was corrupt...........his excessive use of FSF as a brutal political force and election rigging made him quite unpopular with the people during his time in office.
 
People like Jinnah L.A.Khan and Bhutto were killed or died off... That is what happened. And then a light bulb went off in the heads of the military top brass and the Feudal lords... "Hey here is a good racket, lets run for elections".

That is what happened!

And like it happens always and everywhere...Common man paid the price of the rulers' follies :hitwall:
 
The thing is that every system takes its time to evolve and goes through many ups and downs.

Indian democracy is still evolving. We have seen many downs (Emergency, Communal rights and above all corruption) and still are not fully evolved.
Similarly chinese system had to go through cultural revolution to get here.
Its all about the mindset of people which needs to be set for some kind of governance.
There is no Plug and Play method for governing a country. Sadly there have been so many changes in Pakistan that no one has a clear picture of which form to adopt.
 
dont worry bro, where there is light their is dark, and we are not far in the closet that we cant see the light, first we were lauding Pakistan now you are lauding India in future both will be lauded and Europe will be breaking up (no offense:lol:,):tup:

He.he..he... One of the few saner Voices of Pakistan !!! I liked it.:cheers:
 
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