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London: Pakistan is not viewed as a key player within the Kashmir issue despite the "mess" India may have created in the region in the last 15 months, a former spy chief of India has said.

Amarjit Singh Dulat, who served as head of RAW in 1999-2000, said the whole world knows that Kashmir is a "very integral part of India" and the problems in the region can be resolved with a more "civilised" approach by talks with all groups involved.


File image of AS Dulat. Screen grab from YouTube

"If there is alienation in Kashmir against India or anger...there is no love lost for Pakistan. Pakistan has long gone out of the Kashmir equation and Kashmiris realise there is nothing more to be gained from Pakistan," he said.

Dulat was addressing an event entitled 'Spymasters Speak: Can intelligence agencies do good?' at the London School of Economics (LSE) on Friday evening.

"But for the last 15 months, Kashmir was never mentioned by Pakistan or in Pakistan...Now it has been raised again because of the mess we have created in Kashmir in the last 15 months, so Pakistan is back in business," he said.

Describing the killings of youth and security personnel in the violence that has erupted in the region as "unfortunate", Dulat stressed that "heavy-handedness" is not
the answer.

"One message which comes out of Kashmir is that a lot can be achieved with love and compassion but never by force. And, I think that is the mistake we have made in the last 15 months," he said.

The former intelligence chief was of the view that talks with separatist groups should not be ruled out as all matters "need to be discussed upfront" between Delhi and Srinagar.

"Democracy works. Apart from the mess we have created, the mistake we are making is not talking to people. It is high time we started talking...even to the Hurriyat. The idea of talking to them is to mainstream them and get them into the democratic process," he said.

Dulat, who was also a former special director of India’s Intelligence Bureau (IB) and served as IB joint director in Kashmir in the late 1980s, claimed that the Kashmiri people are "not happy" with the BJP-PDP coalition for bringing the RSS into the Valley.

"The RSS may have come into the Valley but will not achieve anything," he said.

Dulat was joined on the panel by General (Retd) Ehsan ul Haq, former director-general of Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), at the event organised by the UK-based South Asia Future Forum and chaired by the LSE's South Asia Centre.

The two former spies concurred with each other on the need for the intelligence agencies of the two countries to cooperate more closely but had predictably divergent views on the Kashmir issue.

"The Kashmir dispute cannot be wished away. If it is left unresolved, it will keep recurring with increasing intensity," said Haq.

"Kashmir has regained centrality in Indo-Pakistan policy focus and from Pakistan’s perspective it remains the core issue within bilateral relations," he said.

On the issue of terrorism, both former spy chiefs called for coordinated efforts between India and Pakistan to tackle the menace together.

"We have borne the brunt of it for a long time. We know that Pakistan is also suffering because of terrorism. Delhi is justified in its stand of no talks until there is terrorism. But there is no way but to talk. In the case of Pakistan, we need to make this one exception and talk along with terror," said Dulat.

Haq said: "There are no problems between India and Pakistan that cannot be solved through dialogue. War is no more an option.But setting preconditions is untenable.

http://www.firstpost.com/india/paki...-in-valley-says-former-raw-chief-4121309.html


Published Date: Oct 08, 2017 01:48 pm | Updated Date: Oct 08, 2017 01:54 pm
 
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Kashmiri population has not been this energised since the 1990s in anti indian feeling

With social media and the Internet the hindutva narrative in india is also an eye opener, so whilst indian muslims feel uneasy
Kashmiris are fully awake to the hindutva direction india is going in so whilst in the past you might have had someone encouraging kashmir to join indian growth and economy now the threat is visable for all Kashmiris to see
 
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Since when Pakis started trusting RAW chief who had been giving night mares to their agents during his tenure.
Bohot hi Ch***** kisam ke hujoom ho yaar tum log.. lol
They don't know that RAW wants them stay invested in Kashmir.. so that it bleeds their economy even further.. Nice game plan by RAW.. use an Ex RAW chief to keep Pakistan warm... LOL
 
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They don't know that RAW wants them stay invested in Kashmir.. so that it bleeds their economy even further.. Nice game plan by RAW.. use an Ex RAW chief to keep Pakistan warm... LOL

We will support kashmir come what may

We will build against india as an enemy
 
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London: Pakistan is not viewed as a key player within the Kashmir issue despite the "mess" India may have created in the region in the last 15 months, a former spy chief of India has said.

Amarjit Singh Dulat, who served as head of RAW in 1999-2000, said the whole world knows that Kashmir is a "very integral part of India" and the problems in the region can be resolved with a more "civilised" approach by talks with all groups involved.


File image of AS Dulat. Screen grab from YouTube

"If there is alienation in Kashmir against India or anger...there is no love lost for Pakistan. Pakistan has long gone out of the Kashmir equation and Kashmiris realise there is nothing more to be gained from Pakistan," he said.

Dulat was addressing an event entitled 'Spymasters Speak: Can intelligence agencies do good?' at the London School of Economics (LSE) on Friday evening.

"But for the last 15 months, Kashmir was never mentioned by Pakistan or in Pakistan...Now it has been raised again because of the mess we have created in Kashmir in the last 15 months, so Pakistan is back in business," he said.

Describing the killings of youth and security personnel in the violence that has erupted in the region as "unfortunate", Dulat stressed that "heavy-handedness" is not
the answer.

"One message which comes out of Kashmir is that a lot can be achieved with love and compassion but never by force. And, I think that is the mistake we have made in the last 15 months," he said.

The former intelligence chief was of the view that talks with separatist groups should not be ruled out as all matters "need to be discussed upfront" between Delhi and Srinagar.

"Democracy works. Apart from the mess we have created, the mistake we are making is not talking to people. It is high time we started talking...even to the Hurriyat. The idea of talking to them is to mainstream them and get them into the democratic process," he said.

Dulat, who was also a former special director of India’s Intelligence Bureau (IB) and served as IB joint director in Kashmir in the late 1980s, claimed that the Kashmiri people are "not happy" with the BJP-PDP coalition for bringing the RSS into the Valley.

"The RSS may have come into the Valley but will not achieve anything," he said.

Dulat was joined on the panel by General (Retd) Ehsan ul Haq, former director-general of Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), at the event organised by the UK-based South Asia Future Forum and chaired by the LSE's South Asia Centre.

The two former spies concurred with each other on the need for the intelligence agencies of the two countries to cooperate more closely but had predictably divergent views on the Kashmir issue.

"The Kashmir dispute cannot be wished away. If it is left unresolved, it will keep recurring with increasing intensity," said Haq.

"Kashmir has regained centrality in Indo-Pakistan policy focus and from Pakistan’s perspective it remains the core issue within bilateral relations," he said.

On the issue of terrorism, both former spy chiefs called for coordinated efforts between India and Pakistan to tackle the menace together.

"We have borne the brunt of it for a long time. We know that Pakistan is also suffering because of terrorism. Delhi is justified in its stand of no talks until there is terrorism. But there is no way but to talk. In the case of Pakistan, we need to make this one exception and talk along with terror," said Dulat.

Haq said: "There are no problems between India and Pakistan that cannot be solved through dialogue. War is no more an option.But setting preconditions is untenable.

http://www.firstpost.com/india/paki...-in-valley-says-former-raw-chief-4121309.html


Published Date: Oct 08, 2017 01:48 pm | Updated Date: Oct 08, 2017 01:54 pm
Pakistan was always in business with regards to Kashmir.
 
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finally Ex RAW chief is now able to reveal the truth i bet he cant say this while in India or would have lynched he better stay safe in London now or he already have decided to stay in UK before revealing his thoughts.
 
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As far as I see Pakistan is becoming irrelevant in Kashmir. If so much violence since last one year could not bring India to tables for Pakistan. Nothing can. Pakistan very well can forget Kashmir.

Moreover, with a 'short gap' Prime Minister in Pakistan, even any incentive that India might have to start a dialogue is next to nil.
 
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Good going Pakistan. Raise the voice on every platform. Let world knows again what they are doing in Kashmir.
 
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AS Daulat, biggest mistake by Vajpayee to retain this Lutynes officer in RAW. His time period saw worst of violence and distraction.
 
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This man talks from experience. He has seem days when the Indian army didn't even patrol the kashmir valley anymore due to fear of militants.
 
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