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Pakistan gains guarantee of China’s financial backing

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For Pakistan. I can sale my self. If something is there please give me link for KSA
For now, just transfer into dam fund account.. Pakistan needs foreign currency remittances even if they are not given as charity..

So we can do this:

1 - Donate at least 1000 USD into dam fund.. that's charity..
2 - Transfer our savings to our Pakistani bank accounts and keep our funds in PKR currency in Pakistan

I am planning to remit all my savings to Pakistani bank account as soon as IK takes oath.. and will keep them there for at least a year.. or will invest in a property..
 
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I would like to really see a trade, investment, tourism, finances, defenses etc. in local currencies b/w Pak and Turkey!!! There are so many avenues to work on!!! No perpetual hindrances from the NY bankers - the most veritable sons of Satan....
 
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Trump can shove IMF up his yaayyy big rear...
China had to do this because IMF was placing conditions on CPEC and Dr. SM discussed that a long time ago... SO going to IMF meant compromising CPEC which was neither in interest of Pakistan nor China and with latter having trillions of dollars in her strategic funds, won't let that happen.
So bye bye IMF...

IMF help or no IMF help, we will still need to keep a normal foreign policy toward west, but there should be slight tilt toward Russia.
We need to build a trade bloc with Iran, Turkey, formal Soviet states and Russia. This will greatly benefit our economy.
 
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IMF help or no IMF help, we will still need to keep a normal foreign policy toward west, but there should be slight tilt toward Russia.
We need to build a trade bloc with Iran and Turkey and formal Soviet states and Russia. This will greatly benefit our economy.
Yup we need good relations with all.
 
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This is significant for a number of reasons:

1. It weans Pakistan off of IMF loans that are usually detrimental to the loan taker. IMF forces legislative and compulsory economic changes (reforms) as conditions for the loans.
2. IMF loans usually come with hefty and crippling social and economical burdens.... It would have crippled the vision Imran Khan has to bring the reforms he needs to.
3. China has a vested interest not to make high risk loans that would have detrimental effects to its one Belt & Road / CPEC projects
4. Trump is inadvertently helping Pakistan by restricting the IMF loans.
5. The best thing Pakistan can do is refinance their loans with softer more reasonable repayment conditions.
6. It is in China's own interest to see Pakistan succeeds versus the more Vultures of IMF.
7. China's commitment represents a vote of confidence in the Imran Khan government.

Win-Win!

Big development if true.
 
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Chinese Should be asked to invest in Tourism industry in Pakistan. Can you image few millions of Chinese visiting Pakistan every year, how much it will benefit our economy..
 
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These are Chinese loans. Pakistan does not publish the rate Chinese are charging as its well above the IMF rate. The reason Pakistan wants to go to the IMF is to borrow money to pay the Chinese on the loans they have already amassed via CPEC in the first place. The idea of more loans from the Chinese at rates that will permanently bankrupt Pakistan in the future is a danger even the most moronic of economic managers vaguely comprehend
IMF has loaned money to hundreds of countries with strings to restructure their economies for long term viability. Ireland which was bankrupt after 2008 crisis followed the restructure plans as laid out by the IMF. Today its economy is booming and all crisis has been avoided. IMF takes credit for that. Countries that wish to continue to pursue policies by accepting IMF money and then not carry out the promised reforms as Pakistan has done 13 times usually end up where they started.
No offence I am no economist but your talking out of you posterior. CPEC loans are spread over 25-30 years. Many have 5 year grace period. Payments only become [grace period excluding] payable when the projects are completed. As of right now only some of the projects have been completed. I don't have the figures now but the payments on the small portion of completed CPEC projects is not more then $700 million dollars which makes a tiny fraction of the payment crisis Pakistan faces. Meaning that the present mess has little to do with CPEC. The full weight of CPEC payments will only start biting in about 2023 when most of the CPEC projects are completed and payments become due for the entire CPEC portfolio.

The way you guys are getting on is as if the full payment for $65 billion has been billed straight away. That is rubbish. Most projects are still in construction phase, a few have just been completed and many more are waiting to be implemented.
 
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Another senior party leader said: “The Chinese have signalled their intent to keep helping Pakistan avoid a crisis, a default.” But he added that Chinese officials have urged their Pakistani counterparts “to take steps to reduce the large deficit”.

Chinese making this suggestions would have been ignorant of the trade deficit of Pakistan vis-e-vis China

Otherwise no sane Chinese would make such rediculous suggestion.:partay:
I think you misunderstood deeper meaning behind the part you quoted from the article. China is helping to advise and urge the Pakistani government to reduce aggregate trade deficits, specific countries matter little if the overall structure makes sense. Everyone has the data on trade balance between Pakistan and China, they are not ignorant of the facts.

Some goods are necessary for the CPEC construction and industrial zones such as certain construction equipment, capital goods, and power generation equipment that Pakistan doesn't produce. Yes, there is a trade deficit with China due to infrastructure build up and industrialisation but it is necessary for industrialization. Maybe Pakistan can buy equipment elsewhere, but that would likely further increase deficits due to increased costs. The point the Chinese official is making is that, do what makes sense for Pakistan's finances. If it makes sense to buy from China do it, if it makes sense to buy from else where then do it. The other component of the message is to urge Pakistan to focus on export industries and setup structures to promote their growth. Structurally speaking, to industrialise rapidly Pakistan must import capital good and semi-finished components that it cannot produce but it can balance it out though exports.

Maybe Pakistan won't resolve its trade deficit with China anytime soon, but that doesn't mean it can't become a net exporter. Focusing on just the trade balance with China is quite narrow minded. FYI China has a trade deficit with South Korea, Australia, Switzerland, Brazil, Japan, Germany, Angola, and Saudi Arabia. Does that prevent China from having an aggregate trade surplus? Not at all. China imports capital goods and components from South Korea, Switzerland, Germany and Japan, raw materials and agricultural goods from Australia, Brazil, Angola and Saudi Arabia. These countries are the inputs into China's industrial machine. Should China stop importing integrated circuits from South Korea (surplus with China) and instead import it from Mexico (deficit with China) to forcibly balance trade? or maybe not buy it at all to spite South Korea for the trade deficit? China buys certain goods from certain nations because it makes sense to do so. It wouldn't make sense to forcibly balance trade with these nations, it would only hurt China itself. The same would be true for Pakistan.

What is important is working on building an export market for Pakistan.
 
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So pakistan wanted to go to IMF to repay chinese loans.
But now we whave another chinese loan to repay earlier one.lols

That is called putting all your eggs in one basket.
 
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No offence I am no economist but your talking out of you posterior. CPEC loans are spread over 25-30 years. Many have 5 year grace period. Payments only become [grace period excluding] payable when the projects are completed. As of right now only some of the projects have been completed. I don't have the figures now but the payments on the small portion of completed CPEC projects is not more then $700 million dollars which makes a tiny fraction of the payment crisis Pakistan faces. Meaning that the present mess has little to do with CPEC. The full weight of CPEC payments will only start biting in about 2023 when most of the CPEC projects are completed and payments become due for the entire CPEC portfolio.

The way you guys are getting on is as if the full payment for $65 billion has been billed straight away. That is rubbish. Most projects are still in construction phase, a few have just been completed and many more are waiting to be implemented.
If cpec loan entered pakistan through proper channel ie through reserve bank of pakistan then there would have been no problem to begin with ..
 
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Good. Pakistan will become China's problem.

Pakistan is China's solution to big problem, its their Israel.

Be rest assured Asad Umar is going to work on that by increasing direct taxation and reducing indirect taxes


This is an absurd idea...how long are we going to survive on donations...instead of that provide overseas pakistanis with investment opportunities like high return dollar bonds

Instead of donations, overseas Pakistanis should invest in Pakistan and Government should give them good opportunities for that.

What about Modi's declared Pakistan isolation policy? Since then, Pakistan seems to have more friends. What's going on? Indian dream is getting a little cloudy.

There is a reason Pakistan military want him in power in India, because he will make strategic impact on India which favor Pakistan in long run.
 
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