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Pakistan reportedly finalizing deal to set up 6 nuclear power plants with China's help


TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 14, 2012


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ISLAMABAD (Kyodo): Pakistan and China are in the final stage of negotiations for a deal to set up at least six nuclear power plants at different sites in Pakistan to be commissioned by 2023, according to Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission sources.

Under the proposed deal, four plants would be set up at Karachi, Pakistan's largest city and the capital of Sindh province, one would be at Sukkur in the interior of Sindh, and at least one more would be at Chashma in the Mianwaki district of Punjab province, the PAEC sources told Kyodo News.

Pakistan currently has three nuclear power plants -- an aging 137 MW one in Karachi, which is operating at half capacity as it has completed its natural life, and two 325 MW ones in Chashma supplied by China, dubbed Chashma-1 and Chashma-2.

Work is in progress on two identical plants at Chashma, dubbed Chashma-3 and Chashma-4, which China has already agreed to supply.

"We have firm plans to set up additional nuclear power plants with total capacity of 4,345 megawatts by 2023," one PAEC source said.

The sources confirmed that PAEC hopes to have installed capacity of 8,800 MW by 2030.

Nuclear power currently accounts for 700 MW of Pakistan's 18,000 MW power generation capacity, of which 12,350 MW is thermal and 4,900 MW is hydro.

The PAEC sources said land for the four planned Karachi plants has been acquired at Hawks Bay on the coast, adjacent to the megacity's existing plant.

The Nuclear Suppliers Group has disputed China's supply of the four Chashma plants to Pakistan as the deal for them was concluded after China joined the group in 2005.

The NSG ostensibly bars supply of this technology to countries like Pakistan that are not signatories to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Agreement.

Pakistan and China both maintain that the supply of nuclear power plants to Pakistan and Chinese cooperation for indigenous manufacture of nuclear power plants in Pakistan were already envisaged in a comprehensive cooperation agreement concluded in 1986.

"We have an overarching agreement between China and Pakistan which predates China joining the NSG and this cooperation will continue in the years to come for peaceful purposes under IAEA safeguards," said Foreign Ministry spokesman Abdul Basit, referring to the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency.

"The world should not worry about it. Rather they should be supportive of it because it's important for our growth and stability," he said.

A senior Pakistani scientist who had taken part in the preparation of Pakistan-China Cooperation Agreement in 1986 and subsequent agreements for the two nuclear plants now operating at Chashma similarly recalled that the 1986 agreement provided a "grandfather clause" for long-term supply of nuclear power plants and cooperation in the peaceful uses of nuclear energy.

"A grandfather has many grandchildren," he told Kyodo News.

Pakistan reportedly finalizing deal to set up 6 nuclear power plants with China's help ~ Terminal X
 
Pakistan reportedly finalizing deal to set up 6 nuclear power plants with China's help


TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 14, 2012


Pak-china1.jpg


ISLAMABAD (Kyodo): Pakistan and China are in the final stage of negotiations for a deal to set up at least six nuclear power plants at different sites in Pakistan to be commissioned by 2023, according to Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission sources.

Under the proposed deal, four plants would be set up at Karachi, Pakistan's largest city and the capital of Singh :argh: province, one would be at Sukkur in the interior of Sindh, and at least one more would be at Chashma in the Mianwaki district of Punjab province, the PAEC sources told Kyodo News.

Pakistan currently has three nuclear power plants -- an aging 137 MW one in Karachi, which is operating at half capacity as it has completed its natural life, and two 325 MW ones in Chashma supplied by China, dubbed Chashma-1 and Chashma-2.

Work is in progress on two identical plants at Chashma, dubbed Chashma-3 and Chashma-4, which China has already agreed to supply.

"We have firm plans to set up additional nuclear power plants with total capacity of 4,345 megawatts by 2023," one PAEC source said.

The sources confirmed that PAEC hopes to have installed capacity of 8,800 MW by 2030.

Nuclear power currently accounts for 700 MW of Pakistan's 18,000 MW power generation capacity, of which 12,350 MW is thermal and 4,900 MW is hydro.

The PAEC sources said land for the four planned Karachi plants has been acquired at Hawks Bay on the coast, adjacent to the megacity's existing plant.

The Nuclear Suppliers Group has disputed China's supply of the four Chashma plants to Pakistan as the deal for them was concluded after China joined the group in 2005.

The NSG ostensibly bars supply of this technology to countries like Pakistan that are not signatories to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Agreement.

Pakistan and China both maintain that the supply of nuclear power plants to Pakistan and Chinese cooperation for indigenous manufacture of nuclear power plants in Pakistan were already envisaged in a comprehensive cooperation agreement concluded in 1986.

"We have an overarching agreement between China and Pakistan which predates China joining the NSG and this cooperation will continue in the years to come for peaceful purposes under IAEA safeguards," said Foreign Ministry spokesman Abdul Basit, referring to the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency.

"The world should not worry about it. Rather they should be supportive of it because it's important for our growth and stability," he said.

A senior Pakistani scientist who had taken part in the preparation of Pakistan-China Cooperation Agreement in 1986 and subsequent agreements for the two nuclear plants now operating at Chashma similarly recalled that the 1986 agreement provided a "grandfather clause" for long-term supply of nuclear power plants and cooperation in the peaceful uses of nuclear energy.

"A grandfather has many grandchildren," he told Kyodo News.

Pakistan reportedly finalizing deal to set up 6 nuclear power plants with China's help ~ Terminal X
O BHAI OBHAI, itni ghaltian,,

any how if its true its too little and too late,
we should accelerate on all sides ,, coal,gas,thermal,solar etc,,
 
Instead of going for smaller plants scattered all across the country, Pakistan should go for bigger plants like 1000 MW and above capacity.
 
Plans! I plan to launch a Mars mission from my backyard. Doesn't meant anything till it happens.

Will the NSG, which is a monopolistic cartel that prohibits others from being technologically capable to feed themselves electric power by splitting the atom, allow anything beyond Chasmupp-3 and -4? Who will sell us Uranium fuel? Australia is even refusing India, and Pakistan's local production has been all but exhausted. I think we might have a look at the new Indian Thorium reactor, that seems the way out of NSG blackmail.

And I certainly wouldn't want a nuclear power station at Hawkes' Bay. We already saw what a tsunami does to a coastal station, and as it is the old Kanupp is now within the city, the days are long over when Hawkes Bay was in no-man's land. Karachi as it is has a bad share of fate in plate tectonics, and as a resident of the city, I'd want to mobilize local citizenry against a power station. I'd rather see ugly aeolian built along the coast.
 
@Belligerentpacifist
Australia has allowed uranium sales to india.......

And what makes you think india will share its thorium reactor tech with pakistan.... i know CBM are on but we are not yet at that level...

Cheers mate:cheers:
 
I hope its true but NSG would not let it happen so easily....

PS: Source is extremely doubtful
 
I'll take a dump on the NSG.

Go Pakistan and get em those Nuke Reactors!
 
this is ioditic..
we have over 70,000 MW of hyfral capacity which intial setting cost is half..so why not gor it..?
nuclear make sense only when we exhaust traditional cheaper sources like coal and hydral!

take bunji dam, it would not effect a single soul, as being in an unpopulated area, will produce 8000 mw energy and will cost only 7 billion dolllars.
 
this is ioditic..
we have over 70,000 MW of hyfral capacity which intial setting cost is half..so why not gor it..?
nuclear make sense only when we exhaust traditional cheaper sources like coal and hydral!

take bunji dam, it would not effect a single soul, as being in an unpopulated area, will produce 8000 mw energy and will cost only 7 billion dolllars.

Well I think even the nuclear reactor will take time in the building to the point where you can actually call the reactor fully functional because of the test done and it takes time for the reactors to go on full power. So maybe if they start now, by the time they are done Pakistan can think of way to bring out other sources and add to the energy supply.
 
this is ioditic..
we have over 70,000 MW of hyfral capacity which intial setting cost is half..so why not gor it..?
nuclear make sense only when we exhaust traditional cheaper sources like coal and hydral!

take bunji dam, it would not effect a single soul, as being in an unpopulated area, will produce 8000 mw energy and will cost only 7 billion dolllars.
The glaciers are on their last gush. In twenty years time when all the hydel projects are built, there might be no more water.
 
@Belligerentpacifist
Australia has allowed uranium sales to india.......
And what makes you think india will share its thorium reactor tech with pakistan.... i know CBM are on but we are not yet at that level...
Cheers mate:cheers:
After so much diplomatic huffing and puffing. India shouldn't bet on them being constant future suppliers.

I said nothing about borrowing your technology, but borrowing your expertise to set it up and earn fat royalty while it lasts.
 
I like how smartly they have written the 1986 agreement. As per NSG, all older agreements are to honored and the restriction is only on new agreements so according to this grandfather clause, Pakistan can keep contracting China to build nuclear power plants in Pakistan and supply fuel for it even when NSG has excluded Pakistan and only has favored India. Thanks to those lawyers who wrote that agreement.
 
Pakistan should introduce solar power systems for houses, installed in houses. The house owners will buy them & just pay yearly tax on it. This will generate tax revenue plus no more electricity or loadshedding issue in the country.

Especially cities like Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad, Peshawar, Rawalpindi, Faisalabad, Hyderabad, Quetta, Sukker, Multan, Mardan, Abbottabad, Mirpur, Muzzaffarabad, etc this must be done.
 
this is ioditic..
we have over 70,000 MW of hyfral capacity which intial setting cost is half..so why not gor it..?
nuclear make sense only when we exhaust traditional cheaper sources like coal and hydral!

take bunji dam, it would not effect a single soul, as being in an unpopulated area, will produce 8000 mw energy and will cost only 7 billion dolllars.
Even the small waterfalls in the northern areas are capable of producing staggering 400K MV
 

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