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Pakistan facing $1b default threat in dispute with Karkey

ISLAMABAD: In a major blow, Pakistan will be facing a threat of default to the tune of $950 million to $1 billion this week. It will be on account of damages and per day penalty slapped by the International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID) of the World Bank on a complaint, filed by Karkey Karadenis Elektrilk Urentim AS, a Turkish company on breach of agreement against Islamabad.

Now the caretakers led by Justice (R) Nasirul Mulk led regime is literally forced to live among the devil and deep sea if Islamabad opts to pay damages of $800 million as well as per day penalty (which comes close to $1 billion now), it will be violating the order of the Supreme Court (SC) as the apex court had declared this rental power project as illegal, and if it does not pay damages, it will cause default within this week. The Karkey will be in position for filing a law suit in any part of the world for seizing assets of Pakistan in that particular country.

“We are in catch-22 situation and completely clueless about prevailing situation how to proceed further as we have lost this case at international forum of the ICSID, and now the stage of default will become effective within this week,” top official sources confirmed to The News here on Monday. Ironically, the law firm Allen and Ovary London, which was hired to defend two cases, including Karkey and Reko Diq case was paid over Rs4 billion from the national exchequer, but the country had to face defeat in both the cases at the ICSID forum. The hired law firm was paid hourly fee, so there is need to investigate whether proper due diligence was done or not for making such a huge payment, added the sources.

Pakistan did not get single watt of electricity in case of Karkey and no benefit accrued to Balochistan in case of Reko Diq, yet Pakistan may have to pay multi-billion dollars in damages to these companies. Who is responsible to this colossal loss to money of poor people of Pakistan? This matter requires thorough investigation from NAB and may not be allowed to be buried under the carpet.

The previous PML-N led regime had not flagged up this issue before the caretaker setup, so it was quite shocking and all of sudden, for the interim setup to get full details of this fiasco like situation.

Now, the caretaker premier was briefed on this matter about brewing up crisis last week as keeping in view dwindling foreign currency reserves, the country was not in position to pay close to $1 billion to Karkey on account of damages compensation. It also exposes and highlights that the country’s top judges were not equipped with international laws that sometimes creates highly unwarranted situation such as in case of Karkey and Reko Diq where now the country was heading towards paying heavy losses in terms of multi billion dollars because of decisions taken by judiciary. Karkey had filed the damages suit against Pakistan at the ICSID in February 2013 after the Supreme Court’s ruling in the Rental Power Projects case in 2012. Karkey was awarded a $560 million contract for power ship operations in Pakistan to overcome a spiraling power crisis in the country. The initial contract was for five years. However, former ministers Makhdom Faisal Saleh Hayat and Khawaja Asif had approached the top court against the contract awarded by the then PPP government. In 2012-13, then NAB prosecutor had attempted to settle the issue with Karkey, but the then chief justice Iftikhar Chaudhry had stopped his efforts and warned NAB officials of strict action in case a settlement was reached with the Turkish firm. Karkey’s case is not the only one where Pakistan had to bite the dust.

In the Reko Diq case, the ICSID dismissed Pakistan’s allegations of corruption against the Tethyan Copper Company Pty Ltd (TCC). Later, the TCC made a claim of $12 billion, but Pakistan’s rejected it. Now, there is need to ascertain who caused loss to national exchequer?

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/330928-pakistan-facing-1b-default-threat-in-dispute-with-karkey


What incompetent donkeys?!
 
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Cant anyone in Pakistan do anything right?

How can a court call a project illegal and then the same project can get claims at world courts?
 
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Time to play diplomacy with turkey, this kind of situations are better managed at diplomatic level to gain some breather and some ambical settlements.
 
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our judges are smart a$$
So smart they charged us 1 billion without knowing?
Pakistan did not get single watt of electricity in case of Karkey and no benefit accrued to Balochistan in case of Reko Diq, yet Pakistan may have to pay multi-billion dollars in damages to these companies.

They ruled the project illegal coz some moron politician approached them?

Karkey had filed the damages suit against Pakistan at the ICSID in February 2013 after the Supreme Court’s ruling in the Rental Power Projects case in 2012. Karkey was awarded a $560 million contract for power ship operations in Pakistan to overcome a spiraling power crisis in the country. The initial contract was for five years. However, former ministers Makhdom Faisal Saleh Hayat and Khawaja Asif had approached the top court against the contract awarded by the then PPP government. In 2012-13, then NAB prosecutor had attempted to settle the issue with Karkey, but the then chief justice Iftikhar Chaudhry had stopped his efforts and warned NAB officials of strict action in case a settlement was reached with the Turkish firm. Karkey’s case is not the only one where Pakistan had to bite the dust.


Had they basic common sense we wouldnt be charged close to 1 billion?! PLUS per day penalty if we fail?

pay damages of $800 million as well as per day penalty (which comes close to $1 billion now)


And who paid 4 billion to a firm on hrly charge and still lost the case?
Ironically, the law firm Allen and Ovary London, which was hired to defend two cases, including Karkey and Reko Diq case was paid over Rs4 billion from the national exchequer, but the country had to face defeat in both the cases at the ICSID forum. The hired law firm was paid hourly fee, so there is need to investigate whether proper due diligence was done or not for making such a huge payment, added the sources.
 
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The excessive demands are rediculous , Pakistan have to put stuff in collateral when we borrow just 10 million however international companies are given 12 billion gifts for delivering nothing

Massive flaws
 
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This happens when 1 or 2 arms between executives, judiciary and military becomes extra powerful and starts playing their own rules. This activism backfires ultimately.
 
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Pakistan facing $1b default threat in dispute with Karkey

ISLAMABAD: In a major blow, Pakistan will be facing a threat of default to the tune of $950 million to $1 billion this week. It will be on account of damages and per day penalty slapped by the International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID) of the World Bank on a complaint, filed by Karkey Karadenis Elektrilk Urentim AS, a Turkish company on breach of agreement against Islamabad.

Now the caretakers led by Justice (R) Nasirul Mulk led regime is literally forced to live among the devil and deep sea if Islamabad opts to pay damages of $800 million as well as per day penalty (which comes close to $1 billion now), it will be violating the order of the Supreme Court (SC) as the apex court had declared this rental power project as illegal, and if it does not pay damages, it will cause default within this week. The Karkey will be in position for filing a law suit in any part of the world for seizing assets of Pakistan in that particular country.

“We are in catch-22 situation and completely clueless about prevailing situation how to proceed further as we have lost this case at international forum of the ICSID, and now the stage of default will become effective within this week,” top official sources confirmed to The News here on Monday. Ironically, the law firm Allen and Ovary London, which was hired to defend two cases, including Karkey and Reko Diq case was paid over Rs4 billion from the national exchequer, but the country had to face defeat in both the cases at the ICSID forum. The hired law firm was paid hourly fee, so there is need to investigate whether proper due diligence was done or not for making such a huge payment, added the sources.

Pakistan did not get single watt of electricity in case of Karkey and no benefit accrued to Balochistan in case of Reko Diq, yet Pakistan may have to pay multi-billion dollars in damages to these companies. Who is responsible to this colossal loss to money of poor people of Pakistan? This matter requires thorough investigation from NAB and may not be allowed to be buried under the carpet.

The previous PML-N led regime had not flagged up this issue before the caretaker setup, so it was quite shocking and all of sudden, for the interim setup to get full details of this fiasco like situation.

Now, the caretaker premier was briefed on this matter about brewing up crisis last week as keeping in view dwindling foreign currency reserves, the country was not in position to pay close to $1 billion to Karkey on account of damages compensation. It also exposes and highlights that the country’s top judges were not equipped with international laws that sometimes creates highly unwarranted situation such as in case of Karkey and Reko Diq where now the country was heading towards paying heavy losses in terms of multi billion dollars because of decisions taken by judiciary. Karkey had filed the damages suit against Pakistan at the ICSID in February 2013 after the Supreme Court’s ruling in the Rental Power Projects case in 2012. Karkey was awarded a $560 million contract for power ship operations in Pakistan to overcome a spiraling power crisis in the country. The initial contract was for five years. However, former ministers Makhdom Faisal Saleh Hayat and Khawaja Asif had approached the top court against the contract awarded by the then PPP government. In 2012-13, then NAB prosecutor had attempted to settle the issue with Karkey, but the then chief justice Iftikhar Chaudhry had stopped his efforts and warned NAB officials of strict action in case a settlement was reached with the Turkish firm. Karkey’s case is not the only one where Pakistan had to bite the dust.

In the Reko Diq case, the ICSID dismissed Pakistan’s allegations of corruption against the Tethyan Copper Company Pty Ltd (TCC). Later, the TCC made a claim of $12 billion, but Pakistan’s rejected it. Now, there is need to ascertain who caused loss to national exchequer?

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/330928-pakistan-facing-1b-default-threat-in-dispute-with-karkey


What incompetent donkeys?!
Our judiciary is incompetent..never seen more illiterate people
They cost 10 billion dollars lost in stupid decisions..probably more than all the corruption we hd
 
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Our judiciary is incompetent..never seen more illiterate people
They cost 10 billion dollars lost in stupid decisions..probably more than all the corruption we hd

Funny situation

Political System in incompetent
Judiciary System is incompetent
Revenue System is incompetent
Financial System is incompetent
Heath Care System is incompetent
Industrial Sector is incompetent

Armed forces competency cannot be questioned, so no answer.

But we as a nation are very competent, infact better then best.
 
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Funny situation

Political System in incompetent
Judiciary System is incompetent
Revenue System is incompetent
Financial System is incompetent
Heath Care System is incompetent
Industrial Sector is incompetent

Armed forces competency cannot be questioned, so no answer.

But we as a nation are very competent, infact better then best.
Interesting enough same can be said about your country :enjoy:

In our case at least most admit that they didnt vote/ vote for current BS....So, if BS rose it isnt the fault of those who didnt vote for it! Your country on the other hand praises a mass murder and proudly claim to have voted for him and back his BS :enjoy:
 
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Interesting enough same can be said about your country :enjoy:

In our case at least most admit that they didnt vote/ vote for current BS....So, if BS rose it isnt the fault of those who didnt vote for it! Your country on the other hand praises a mass murder and proudly claim to have voted for him and back his BS :enjoy:

Open up your eyes
1. We have a single party majority in center and same party has majority in most of states. So politically stable
2. No one here is questioning the judiciary system, so its very well working.
3. Our financial health is good with forex reserves rising.
4. GST brought in bigger revenue coverage.
5. Globally people come to India for health care.
6. And Make in india is driving industrial growth.

If you cannot see all these and just want to live in your lalaland and keep dreaming, then all you will see in BS inside and well as outside :)
 
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We have a single party majority in center and same party has majority in most of states. So politically stable
I doubt that is a measure of stability. Then again I couldnt care less not a thread for india or their system

No one here is questioning the judiciary system, so its very well working.
So has justice been served to the rape victims?
What about those people who keep getting lynched just due to hearsay of beef being slaughtered?

Our financial health is good with forex reserves rising.
And equally high corruption rate...O yea just coz no one is questioning it is just ;)

GST brought in bigger revenue coverage.
Good for you....Again, not a thread for indian :enjoy:

Globally people come to India for health care.
Yea so much business that they even do it illegally here like those illegal organ sellers caught here...O yea, no one asks so your judiciary system is working fine ;)

And Make in india is driving industrial growth.
Again no one cares...Thread isnt about you...

Just because you are blind to the problems or dont address it doesnt mean it doesnt exist...Think about it and kindly dont derail this thread :enjoy:
 
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I doubt that is a measure of stability. Then again I couldnt care less not a thread for india or their system
I can understand you have no experience or understanding of political stability, your are forgiven for this.

So has justice been served to the rape victims?
What about those people who keep getting lynched just due to hearsay of beef being slaughtered?
If you are a victim and not received the justice then you can ask that question.
People getting lynched is a social issue and not judicary, i hope you understand what judicary means.

And equally high corruption rate...O yea just coz no one is questioning it is just ;)
Even if its so, yet we are doing good, think how badly you guys suck...

Good for you....Again, not a thread for indian :enjoy:
Dont have answers...so ya... not a thread for indian


Yea so much business that they even do it illegally here like those illegal organ sellers caught here...O yea, no one asks so your judiciary system is working fine ;)
Yet people from Pakisthan have to rush to India...
O yea, no one trusts your system..

Again no one cares...Thread isnt about you...
Just because you are blind to the problems or dont address it doesnt mean it doesnt exist...Think about it and kindly dont derail this thread :enjoy:

Just because problem exists in your mind, it doenst mean others dont see the reality.
Think about it...dont derail yourself...
:enjoy:
 
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I can understand you have no experience or understanding of political stability, your are forgiven for this.
Taking a personal jibe due to your lack of explaining skills is really below the belt...Then again cant really expect much can we :enjoy:

If you are a victim and not received the justice then you can ask that question.
People getting lynched is a social issue and not judicary, i hope you understand what judicary means.
The judiciary (also known as the judicial system or court system) is the system of courts that interprets and applies the law in the name of the state.

The judiciary is the branch of government which administers justice according to law

I hope YOU actually know what you mean :rofl:

When your law failed rape victims and give a blind eye to lynching of a particular group of people, yes your "judicial system" and your government has failed the people!

Even if its so, yet we are doing good, think how badly you guys suck...
We at least know what we are facing coz we are questioning...You people dont even know what is going on coz like "you" said no one questions ;)

not a thread for indian
Yet here you are...Or are you not indian?

Yet people from Pakisthan have to rush to India...
O yea, no one trusts your system..
Just like how Priyanka was asked to go to Pakistan and how people listening to songs or cheering for the wrong team are often told to got to Pakistan? :rofl:

We are not forcing anyone to stay with us...They chose to go to india...A choice they could have done on independence but didnt...Now they chose to go who are we to stop them? We dont force people into our borders :enjoy:

Just because problem exists in your mind, it doenst mean others dont see the reality.
So you want prove? Just google it and you will see what the reality actually is :enjoy:

Now quit derailing
 
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