Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Raja Porus]

US Thunderbirds close call during formation flying. #6 jet corrected aggressively to avoid a collision with the other jet in formation as the transition was not as smooth but is able to rejoin formation.

Don't you think he freaked out a bit over reacted?
Btw I like the way the commentator covered it up.

 

[Raider 21]

Don't you think he freaked out a bit over reacted?
Btw I like the way the commentator covered it up.

Negative. No. 1 (Leader) rolled out faster than he should have which affected the whole formation.

No. 6 did exactly as they had briefed for in case this ever happened. USAF Thunderbirds are very critical in their briefs and debriefs. They take safety very seriously. No. 1 would be given a debrief, irrespective of his rank by the junior pilots. And they do it in a manner where everyone agrees that it could have happened by any one of them.

I'm unaware of the Thunderbirds, but the Blue Angels in their debriefs use the term "Glad to be hear" underlying them being fortunate enough to learn from their mistakes and appreciate the fact that they are doing an assignment that itself is privileged to certain individuals in a profession that is desired by thousands but handed to a few.

 

[Raja Porus]

None can match its beauty

 

[Trailer23]

F-16 Viper: The Best Non-Stealth Fighter Jet Ever? You Decide​

By Eli Fuhrman
July 23, 2021

The F-16 Fighting Falcon is one of the world’s most successful and combat-proven military aircraft to ever fly. F-16s in operation with militaries worldwide have now collectively taken part in more than 400,000 combat sorties and have logged a combined 19 million flight hours. Today, the air services of 25 different militaries worldwide continue to operate F-16s with roughly 3,000 Fighting Falcons still operational. The United States Air Force itself operates more F-16s than any other type of aircraft as part of its fighter fleet. The success and the longevity of the F-16 can be attributed both to its reliance and combat capabilities and to its impressive cost-effectiveness, with the Falcon coming in at a significantly reduced cost compared to its larger fourth-generation counterpart in the F-15.

Its proven track record and cost efficiency have allowed the F-16 to soldier on even in the face of the continued proliferation of more modern fifth-generation stealth fighter aircraft. To ensure that this remains the case, the F-16 is receiving upgrades that will allow it to remain competitive in the air for years to come. Moving beyond the C/D variants of the aircraft that have become commonplace in many air forces around the world, the newest generation of F-16s – labeled the F-16V or “Viper” – are incorporating a number of technological enhancements that will further improve the F-16s combat capabilities.

Here Comes the F-16 Viper

Revealed for the first time in 2012, the Lockheed Martin F-16 Viper makes use of advanced technology leveraged from advanced fifth-generation fighters such as the F-35 and F-22 as a means to improve the F-16V’s interoperability with these aircraft. Perhaps the most significant upgrade incorporated by the F-16 Viper is the installation of the advanced Northrup Grumman APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, which gives the F-16V fifth-generation radar capabilities. The addition of the APG-83 AESA radar affords F-16 pilots greatly enhanced situational awareness by granting greater detection and tracking ranges along with the ability to track more than 20 sperate targets at a time, while also producing high-resolution Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) maps for precision strike operations in all types of environments and offering greatly increased system reliability.

Along with the upgraded radar capabilities, F-16 Vipers are also outfitted with a modern commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) avionics subsystem, an improved Center Pedestal Display (CPD), and an upgraded data bus.

The F-16 Viper is powered by a single Pratt & Whitney engine, and the aircraft has a maximum speed of Mach two alone with a maximum range of 1,740 nautical miles. The Viper is capable of being equipped with a variety of air-to-air weapons systems, and is also able to be outfitted for air-to-ground strikes with both tactical missiles and laser-guided bombs.

The F-16 Viper can either be produced itself or offered as an upgrade package for existing F-16s. To date, a number of countries have ordered either newly produced F-16 Vipers or the upgrade package, including Taiwan, Bahrain, and Bulgaria.

While clearly no fighter jet is perfect, any air force around the world that cannot afford say the F-35 and wants to avoid Russia’s latest weaponry the F-16 Viper seems like a world-class choice.

Link: F-16 Viper: The Best Non-Stealth Fighter Jet Ever? You Decide
@Hodor @Windjammer @Raider 21 @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Bilal. @SQ8 @GriffinsRule @iLION12345_1 @Path-Finder @Stealth @Yasser76 @ziaulislam

 

[GriffinsRule]

F-16 Viper: The Best Non-Stealth Fighter Jet Ever? You Decide​

By Eli Fuhrman
July 23, 2021

The F-16 Fighting Falcon is one of the world’s most successful and combat-proven military aircraft to ever fly. F-16s in operation with militaries worldwide have now collectively taken part in more than 400,000 combat sorties and have logged a combined 19 million flight hours. Today, the air services of 25 different militaries worldwide continue to operate F-16s with roughly 3,000 Fighting Falcons still operational. The United States Air Force itself operates more F-16s than any other type of aircraft as part of its fighter fleet. The success and the longevity of the F-16 can be attributed both to its reliance and combat capabilities and to its impressive cost-effectiveness, with the Falcon coming in at a significantly reduced cost compared to its larger fourth-generation counterpart in the F-15.

Its proven track record and cost efficiency have allowed the F-16 to soldier on even in the face of the continued proliferation of more modern fifth-generation stealth fighter aircraft. To ensure that this remains the case, the F-16 is receiving upgrades that will allow it to remain competitive in the air for years to come. Moving beyond the C/D variants of the aircraft that have become commonplace in many air forces around the world, the newest generation of F-16s – labeled the F-16V or “Viper” – are incorporating a number of technological enhancements that will further improve the F-16s combat capabilities.

Here Comes the F-16 Viper

Revealed for the first time in 2012, the Lockheed Martin F-16 Viper makes use of advanced technology leveraged from advanced fifth-generation fighters such as the F-35 and F-22 as a means to improve the F-16V’s interoperability with these aircraft. Perhaps the most significant upgrade incorporated by the F-16 Viper is the installation of the advanced Northrup Grumman APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, which gives the F-16V fifth-generation radar capabilities. The addition of the APG-83 AESA radar affords F-16 pilots greatly enhanced situational awareness by granting greater detection and tracking ranges along with the ability to track more than 20 sperate targets at a time, while also producing high-resolution Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) maps for precision strike operations in all types of environments and offering greatly increased system reliability.

Along with the upgraded radar capabilities, F-16 Vipers are also outfitted with a modern commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) avionics subsystem, an improved Center Pedestal Display (CPD), and an upgraded data bus.

The F-16 Viper is powered by a single Pratt & Whitney engine, and the aircraft has a maximum speed of Mach two alone with a maximum range of 1,740 nautical miles. The Viper is capable of being equipped with a variety of air-to-air weapons systems, and is also able to be outfitted for air-to-ground strikes with both tactical missiles and laser-guided bombs.

The F-16 Viper can either be produced itself or offered as an upgrade package for existing F-16s. To date, a number of countries have ordered either newly produced F-16 Vipers or the upgrade package, including Taiwan, Bahrain, and Bulgaria.

While clearly no fighter jet is perfect, any air force around the world that cannot afford say the F-35 and wants to avoid Russia’s latest weaponry the F-16 Viper seems like a world-class choice.

Link: F-16 Viper: The Best Non-Stealth Fighter Jet Ever? You Decide
@Hodor @Windjammer @Raider 21 @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Bilal. @SQ8 @GriffinsRule @iLION12345_1 @Path-Finder @Stealth @Yasser76 @ziaulislam

Without a doubt

 

[Windjammer]

F-16 Viper: The Best Non-Stealth Fighter Jet Ever? You Decide​

By Eli Fuhrman
July 23, 2021

The F-16 Fighting Falcon is one of the world’s most successful and combat-proven military aircraft to ever fly. F-16s in operation with militaries worldwide have now collectively taken part in more than 400,000 combat sorties and have logged a combined 19 million flight hours. Today, the air services of 25 different militaries worldwide continue to operate F-16s with roughly 3,000 Fighting Falcons still operational. The United States Air Force itself operates more F-16s than any other type of aircraft as part of its fighter fleet. The success and the longevity of the F-16 can be attributed both to its reliance and combat capabilities and to its impressive cost-effectiveness, with the Falcon coming in at a significantly reduced cost compared to its larger fourth-generation counterpart in the F-15.

Its proven track record and cost efficiency have allowed the F-16 to soldier on even in the face of the continued proliferation of more modern fifth-generation stealth fighter aircraft. To ensure that this remains the case, the F-16 is receiving upgrades that will allow it to remain competitive in the air for years to come. Moving beyond the C/D variants of the aircraft that have become commonplace in many air forces around the world, the newest generation of F-16s – labeled the F-16V or “Viper” – are incorporating a number of technological enhancements that will further improve the F-16s combat capabilities.

Here Comes the F-16 Viper

Revealed for the first time in 2012, the Lockheed Martin F-16 Viper makes use of advanced technology leveraged from advanced fifth-generation fighters such as the F-35 and F-22 as a means to improve the F-16V’s interoperability with these aircraft. Perhaps the most significant upgrade incorporated by the F-16 Viper is the installation of the advanced Northrup Grumman APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, which gives the F-16V fifth-generation radar capabilities. The addition of the APG-83 AESA radar affords F-16 pilots greatly enhanced situational awareness by granting greater detection and tracking ranges along with the ability to track more than 20 sperate targets at a time, while also producing high-resolution Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) maps for precision strike operations in all types of environments and offering greatly increased system reliability.

Along with the upgraded radar capabilities, F-16 Vipers are also outfitted with a modern commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) avionics subsystem, an improved Center Pedestal Display (CPD), and an upgraded data bus.

The F-16 Viper is powered by a single Pratt & Whitney engine, and the aircraft has a maximum speed of Mach two alone with a maximum range of 1,740 nautical miles. The Viper is capable of being equipped with a variety of air-to-air weapons systems, and is also able to be outfitted for air-to-ground strikes with both tactical missiles and laser-guided bombs.

The F-16 Viper can either be produced itself or offered as an upgrade package for existing F-16s. To date, a number of countries have ordered either newly produced F-16 Vipers or the upgrade package, including Taiwan, Bahrain, and Bulgaria.

While clearly no fighter jet is perfect, any air force around the world that cannot afford say the F-35 and wants to avoid Russia’s latest weaponry the F-16 Viper seems like a world-class choice.

Link: F-16 Viper: The Best Non-Stealth Fighter Jet Ever? You Decide
@Hodor @Windjammer @Raider 21 @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Bilal. @SQ8 @GriffinsRule @iLION12345_1 @Path-Finder @Stealth @Yasser76 @ziaulislam

After over 40 years of operational service, still nothing turns heads like the turning and burning Viper.....I for one hope that PAF manages to acquire some more of this legendary aircraft.

 

[Trailer23]

After over 40 years of operational service, still nothing turns heads like the turning and burning Viper.....I for one hope that PAF manages to acquire some more of this legendary aircraft.

You & me (both)

 

[Metal 0-1]

F-16 Viper: The Best Non-Stealth Fighter Jet Ever? You Decide​

By Eli Fuhrman
July 23, 2021

The F-16 Fighting Falcon is one of the world’s most successful and combat-proven military aircraft to ever fly. F-16s in operation with militaries worldwide have now collectively taken part in more than 400,000 combat sorties and have logged a combined 19 million flight hours. Today, the air services of 25 different militaries worldwide continue to operate F-16s with roughly 3,000 Fighting Falcons still operational. The United States Air Force itself operates more F-16s than any other type of aircraft as part of its fighter fleet. The success and the longevity of the F-16 can be attributed both to its reliance and combat capabilities and to its impressive cost-effectiveness, with the Falcon coming in at a significantly reduced cost compared to its larger fourth-generation counterpart in the F-15.

Its proven track record and cost efficiency have allowed the F-16 to soldier on even in the face of the continued proliferation of more modern fifth-generation stealth fighter aircraft. To ensure that this remains the case, the F-16 is receiving upgrades that will allow it to remain competitive in the air for years to come. Moving beyond the C/D variants of the aircraft that have become commonplace in many air forces around the world, the newest generation of F-16s – labeled the F-16V or “Viper” – are incorporating a number of technological enhancements that will further improve the F-16s combat capabilities.

Here Comes the F-16 Viper

Revealed for the first time in 2012, the Lockheed Martin F-16 Viper makes use of advanced technology leveraged from advanced fifth-generation fighters such as the F-35 and F-22 as a means to improve the F-16V’s interoperability with these aircraft. Perhaps the most significant upgrade incorporated by the F-16 Viper is the installation of the advanced Northrup Grumman APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, which gives the F-16V fifth-generation radar capabilities. The addition of the APG-83 AESA radar affords F-16 pilots greatly enhanced situational awareness by granting greater detection and tracking ranges along with the ability to track more than 20 sperate targets at a time, while also producing high-resolution Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) maps for precision strike operations in all types of environments and offering greatly increased system reliability.

Along with the upgraded radar capabilities, F-16 Vipers are also outfitted with a modern commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) avionics subsystem, an improved Center Pedestal Display (CPD), and an upgraded data bus.

The F-16 Viper is powered by a single Pratt & Whitney engine, and the aircraft has a maximum speed of Mach two alone with a maximum range of 1,740 nautical miles. The Viper is capable of being equipped with a variety of air-to-air weapons systems, and is also able to be outfitted for air-to-ground strikes with both tactical missiles and laser-guided bombs.

The F-16 Viper can either be produced itself or offered as an upgrade package for existing F-16s. To date, a number of countries have ordered either newly produced F-16 Vipers or the upgrade package, including Taiwan, Bahrain, and Bulgaria.

While clearly no fighter jet is perfect, any air force around the world that cannot afford say the F-35 and wants to avoid Russia’s latest weaponry the F-16 Viper seems like a world-class choice.

Link: F-16 Viper: The Best Non-Stealth Fighter Jet Ever? You Decide
@Hodor @Windjammer @Raider 21 @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Bilal. @SQ8 @GriffinsRule @iLION12345_1 @Path-Finder @Stealth @Yasser76 @ziaulislam

F-15

 

[Trailer23]

F-15

F-15 comes in at a respectable 2nd. Could be considered as the winner among the Losers.

Losers always talk about doing their Best. Winners (Viper) go home with the Prom Queen.

 

[Metal 0-1]

That's cute but facts don't care about feelings.

102:0

 

[Trailer23]

That's cute but facts don't care about feelings.

102:0

First off, the F-15's haven't seen much combat in other Air Forces - other than USAF. I mean seriously, who are we talking about. South Korea, Japan, Israel & KSA. Seriously..., that's the list you're gonna put up against the Viper which is across the board. The List itself looks like the Bronze Medalist in the Special Olympics.

You wanna refresh that score, maybe...

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I'm sure you'd throw the !srael Air Force & their might into the mix, but have they EVER done anything worth bragging with the Eagle in any War/Battle?

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During Operation Desert Storm, the F-16 was the first to perform strikes in Iraq & held the record of 25% of strikes, alone.

It was used a great deal in the Kosovo, Iraq & Afghanistan.

...and as someone who has spent a great deal of time at Military Bases like Bagram, Kandahar in Afghanistan & quite a few in Iraq - I don't recall seeing that many F-15's.

And i'm pretty certain there aren't many people on [PDF] that have - with the exception of @PradoTLC

 

[Raider 21]

First off, the F-15's haven't seen much combat in other Air Forces - other than USAF. I mean seriously, who are we talking about. South Korea, Japan, Israel & KSA. Seriously..., that's the list you're gonna put up against the Viper which is across the board. The List itself looks like the Bronze Medalist in the Special Olympics.

You wanna refresh that score, maybe...

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I'm sure you'd throw the !srael Air Force & their might into the mix, but have they EVER done anything worth bragging with the Eagle in any War/Battle?

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During Operation Desert Storm, the F-16 was the first to perform strikes in Iraq & held the record of 25% of strikes, alone.

It was used a great deal in the Kosovo, Iraq & Afghanistan.

...and as someone who has spent a great deal of time at Military Bases like Bagram, Kandahar in Afghanistan & quite a few in Iraq - I don't recall seeing that many F-15's.

And i'm pretty certain there aren't many people on [PDF] that have - with the exception of @PradoTLC

By the time you were at those bases, many F-15 squadrons were at Qatar and currently UAE.

Saudi Arabia, USAF, Israel all contributed to the 102-0 with Israel taking the most and yes Israel has done a lot in terms of WVR and BVR with the conventional Eagle platforms.

Yet like you said the F-16 has more combat exposure due to it being fielded by more with its multirole mission objectives.

The F-15 wins hands down in air to air combat kills.

 

[Trailer23]

By the time you were at those bases, many F-15 squadrons were at Qatar and currently UAE.

Saudi Arabia, USAF, Israel all contributed to the 102-0 with Israel taking the most and yes Israel has done a lot in terms of WVR and BVR with the conventional Eagle platforms.

Yet like you said the F-16 has more combat exposure due to it being fielded by more with its multirole mission objectives.

The F-15 wins hands down in air to air combat kills.

I was at those Bases from 2006 to 2012.

I find it hard to believe that once the so-called War on Terror started in 2001, the Eagles had moved out in less than 5 Years.

 

[Raider 21]

I was at those Bases from 2006 to 2012.

I find it hard to believe that once the so-called War on Terror started in 2001, the Eagles had moved out in less than 5 Years.

War on Terror is very much real, Pak Armed Forces felt the brunt of it in Pakistan and the country you call home these days have participated in it numerous times.

Regarding Strike Eagles and even legacy Eagles, I was at Isa AB (2013-2014). There were Expeditionary Squadrons on rotations to Dhafra and Udeid (not sure about how many would end up at Bagram but at the time they had A-10s and F-16s going back and forth). And on some occasions they would come to Isa. Once we had our equipment room shared with a visiting USAF squadron calling themselves the Rocketeers, an entire F-15E unit with a few non-Americans attached. They would fly out to Afghanistan and recover back at UAE or Qatar.

Yet back on the post, F-16 is one of the best and combat proven aircraft ever produced. Seen good action exactly 3 years ago in the Indo-Pak region.

 

[WiderMan]

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