Pakistan election raises fears of 'creeping coup'

[Taimoor Khan]

More blabbering based on feelz. So, you're saying the Indian army put BJP in power. Get well soon.

Get yourself educated with the meaning of deep state, aka establishment first mate.

 

[El Sidd]

I'm yet to see any Pakistani who have a basic understanding of History of India.

Is Whatever you are now.

Look at yourself. A mob masquerading as a Nation?

What would you be without Pakistan? Looted pillaged raped out of existence and colonised again.

You guys are just awesome

 

[LASER1]

Is Whatever you are now.

Look at yourself. A mob masquerading as a Nation?

What would you be without Pakistan? Looted pillaged raped out of existence and colonised again.

You guys are just awesome

For the past 70 years, we are going fine. We have different cultures and we are far more stable than any country in the region, be it internal security or economy.
Your pipe dreams are awesome too.

 

[Viny]

I'm yet to see any Pakistani who have a basic understanding of History of India.

Very soon you will say "I'm yet to see any Pakistani who have a basic understanding" :p

Is Whatever you are now.

Look at yourself. A mob masquerading as a Nation?

What would you be without Pakistan? Looted pillaged raped out of existence and colonised again.

You guys are just awesome

Without Pakistan, there would have been no India for sure.
Pakistan provides reason to stay united and fight for common cause. Else indian states would have fought among themselves as they did for 1000s of years.

And thats one of reason indian government is not trying to resolve kashmir...when pressured hard, they will do some surgical strikes, some border movments some shellings...and then settle down again..

 

[El Sidd]

For the past 70 years, we are going fine. We have different cultures and we are far more stable than any country in the region, be it internal security or economy.
Your pipe dreams are awesome too.

You have 26 provinces and 16 insurgencies.
You are 3rd terrorism Hit.

Communal violence and fear of communal violence and handful of capitalists. Thats all there is to India.

You wont survive water crisis nor Recession but your snake charming gig is awesome

Very soon you will say "I'm yet to see any Pakistani who have a basic understanding" :p


Without Pakistan, there would have been no India for sure.
Pakistan provides reason to stay united and fight for common cause. Else indian states would have fought among themselves as they did for 1000s of years.

And thats one of reason indian government is not trying to resolve kashmir...when pressured hard, they will do some surgical strikes, some border movments some shellings...and then settle down again..

Dont tell me what i told you

 

[Finer]

Not coup aka military takeover but the caretaker government as the installment of the main establishment. It will happen and perhaps sooner than expected, Allahu Alim.

 

[LASER1]

Get yourself educated with the meaning of deep state, aka establishment first mate.

You're right, I'm not an expert on the matter of deep state like you guys. But my experience living here and having been active in politics makes me understand one thing. Army has zero role in decision-making process of this country. Neither Internal security. Even the serving general had to go to civilian court to get his dispute with the ruling government sort our.

If you can show any valid proof of this deep state, I'll answer. Don't quote me for Hindu deep state conspiracy onliners.

You have 26 provinces and 16 insurgencies.
You are 3rd terrorism Hit.

Communal violence and fear of communal violence and handful of capitalists. Thats all there is to India.

You wont survive water crisis nor Recession but your snake charming gig is awesome

29 provinces with one or two active insurgencies. The Maoist and other xyz terror organizations in Kashmir. No major terror attack since 2008.

Yeah, it is quite an improvement from hundreds major riots until early 2000 to zero in 2018.

India is not water stressed. But we do have declining water resources. We have second largest arable land and has a growing middle class with poverty nearly 10%. You can shove the decades-old stats somewhere and update yourself, if you're too old to understand that, you can spend your time cherry picking someone kicking and stomping and generalize it for the entire nation.

 

[El Sidd]

29 provinces with one or two active insurgencies. The Maoist and other xyz terror organizations in Kashmir. No major terror attack since 2008.

Yeah, it is quite an improvement from hundreds major riots until early 2000 to zero in 2018.

India is not water stressed. But we do have declining water resources. We have second largest arable land and has a growing middle class with poverty nearly 10%. You can shove the decades-old stats somewhere and update yourself, if you're too old to understand that, you can spend your time cherry picking someone kicking and stomping and generalize it for the entire nation.

Yes you are awesome. I agree. I am at awe on your Modus denial

 

[Taimoor Khan]

You're right, I'm not an expert on the matter of deep state like you guys. But my experience living here and having been active in politics makes me understand one thing. Army has zero role in decision-making process of this country. Neither Internal security. Even the serving general had to go to civilian court to get his dispute with the ruling government sort our.

If you can show any valid proof of this deep state, I'll answer. Don't quote me for Hindu deep state conspiracy onliners.

Deep state is just not army, its intelligence, bureaucracy, think tanks, media. They all combine to create deep state aka establishment.

Your army and your intelligence setup, aka south block , has sabotaged many peace efforts in past where they put their weight down on so called your "civilians". Agra summit was scuttled by your deep state.

Every nation worth it salt got its deep state which protects its basic reasons of existence and national ideology, for all the right or wrong reasons. Take this as a complement that India has got its own deep state.

 

[Viny]

You have 26 provinces and 16 insurgencies.
You are 3rd terrorism Hit.

Communal violence and fear of communal violence and handful of capitalists. Thats all there is to India.

You wont survive water crisis nor Recession but your snake charming gig is awesome



Dont tell me what i told you

I am sure you didnt learn that when a group is enslaved, the inner rivalry dies out and united they stand against adversity. The freedom struggle glued all, until the two nation theory was pushed in. And then there came a reason to stay united even more. And as the time passes by and urbanization and homolgalation takes places in all the regions the differences to will be forgotten and new culture would be born out. And remote pockets of being hardcore will only get media masala but not the ground support.

 

[El Sidd]

I am sure you didnt learn that when a group is enslaved, the inner rivalry dies out and united they stand against adversity. The freedom struggle glued all, until the two nation theory was pushed in. And then there came a reason to stay united even more. And as the time passes by and urbanization and homolgalation takes places in all the regions the differences to will be forgotten and new culture would be born out. And remote pockets of being hardcore will only get media masala but not the ground support.

You have your calculations and i have mine.

 

[ghazi52]

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

#LPT

 

[Verve]

More International Media screams, more Pakistanis will vote for IK.

Good.

 

[Solomon2]

...He was one of the lawyers who showered petals on Mumtaz qadri, killer of Former CM Panjab Salman Taseer!

Siddiqui was the guy who refused Qadri's appeal. Don't know about the petals but apparently the guy who kissed Qadri was a look-alike: link

...On Sunday, Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui of the Islamabad High Court said that the ISI intelligence service was interfering in the judiciary, and had pressured judges not to release convicted ex-PM Nawaz Sharif ahead of the vote.

Mr Sharif was disqualified from office by the Supreme Court on questionable grounds last year, and has since been sentenced to 10 years in jail by a trial court, in a ruling which one legal expert described as an embarrassment to his community.

According to the Dawn newspaper, Justice Siddiqui told the Rawalpindi Bar Association he was not afraid of speaking out against the powerful ISI...

IHC orders expunging of remarks against ISI
By Our Correspondent
Published: August 2, 2018

Earlier, the ISI through the Ministry of Defence secretary and federation through the Ministry of Interior had approached the IHC against Justice Siddiqui's order passed on July 18. PHOTO: EXPRESS/FILE

ISLAMABAD: The Islamabad High Court (IHC) on Thursday ordered to expunge IHC’s Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui’s remarks, inter alia, regarding manipulation of the judicial proceedings by the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) from his order passed on July 18.

IHC’s division bench comprising Justice Aamer Farooq and Justice Miangul Hassan Aurangzeb allowed the country’s premier intelligence agency petition, requesting the court to expunge several paragraphs from the order of Justice Siddiqui wherein he asked the army chief and the top spymaster to stop meddling in the affairs of other departments, besides expressing concerns over manipulation of judicial proceedings.

The order came after Islamabad’s Advocate General Tariq Mehmood Jahangiri informed the bench that IHC Chief Justice Muhammad Anwar Khan Kasi has denied the allegations levelled against him by the other judge.

He said the IHC’s top judge has rejected the allegations of interference of the ISI in the judicial proceedings, especially, in the constitution of benches.

The AG informed the bench that Chief Justice Kasi through the IHC registrar has conveyed him that no one has ever approached the IHC regarding the constitution of the benches, adding he never allowed any interference of any person or institution in the judicial proceedings.

No prestigious institutions, IHC judge tells ISI

In addition, Jahangiri said, Justice Kasi has never taken instruction from any quarter while working as sessions judge or after his elevation to IHC.

Subsequently, the bench accepted the Intra-Court Appeal (ICA), expunged the remarks from the order sheet and disposed of the case.

Earlier, the ISI through the Ministry of Defence secretary and federation through the Ministry of Interior had approached the IHC against Justice Siddiqui’s order passed on July 18.

Assistant Attorney General Khawaja Muhammad Imtiaz filed the appeal and stated that the single-member bench while hearing a habeas corpus petition unnecessarily dragged the premier intelligence agency in the controversy.

Among other things, Justice Siddiqui had specifically observed how cases are marked to different judges on the directions of such elements.

“Everyone knows how proceedings are manipulated, from where strings are pulled and when power wielded and manoeuvred to achieve desired results,” he stated.

“It is a matter of great concern that even benches are constituted and cases are marked to different benches on the direction of such elements.”

The order added that “to remain like a silent spectator is against the oath made by every judge provided by the constitution,” he said, adding in case of failure the Pakistani nation and history will not remember the judges with good names.

In the intra-court appeal (ICA), Ahmed stated that Justice Siddiqui’s remarks are “not only unsubstantiated and unfounded but also [constitute a] direct attack/allegation on the appellants, the institution of Pak Army, judiciary” and specifically the IHC’s chief justice and other judges.

Earlier, petitioner Mohammad Iftikhar Raja, who had filed the petition before the IHC, said his brother Rabnawaz was abducted by the spy agencies.

However, when produced before Justice Siddiqui on July 18, Rabnawaz stated that he went to Vehari on his own. On the other hand, Raja said that his brother was under immense fear and belied before the court.

In a written order, Justice Siddiqui had said abduction of people from different walks of life had become a routine in Islamabad, but instead of performing their statutory duty the police came up with a stereotyped stance that persons might have disappeared on their own.

The judge had said such statements were always made in those cases in which allegations were levelled against the intelligence agencies, adding that it was a sorry state of affairs and a challenge to the state.
Petitioners had requested the court to set aside relevant paragraphs of the impugned order, declare that no abduction was carried out by any law enforcement agency and respondents’ petition be dismissed with cost.