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By Global Times
Published: Jul 29, 2021 10:48 PM

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2021 China-Pakistan Trade Forum. Photo: Xiong Xinyi/GT.

Pakistan could overtake India in trade with China in just eight years, even though its trade volume with China was only one-fifth of India’s in 2020, a Pakistan diplomat told the Global Times at a forum in Beijing on Thursday.

In 2020, bilateral trade between China and Pakistan stood at $17.49 billion while between China and India it was $77.7 billion.

“India has a population five to six times larger than that of Pakistan, so I hope that it will take eight to ten years to overtake them,” Badar U Zaman, commercial counsellor of the Embassy of Pakistan in Beijing, told the Global Times at the 2021 China-Pakistan Trade Forum on Thursday.

Although Zaman did not provide more details to support his projections, analysts said the two country’s iron-clad relationship and the substantial progress already made in construction of the multi-billion-dollar CPEC projects could provide economic propulsion to boost bilateral trade.

A Chinese scholar studying China-Pakistan relations pointed out that there are obstacles for Pakistan in realizing this ambitious trade target. But such a scenario is not entirely impossible.

“If Pakistan hopes to overtake India in trade with China in eight to ten years, Pakistan has to increase its purchasing power and improve the standard for export goods to meet international standards,” said Zhou Rong, a senior researcher at the Chongyang Institute for Financial Studies at Renmin University of China.

India has a large market, given its population of nearly 1.4 billion, while Pakistan has a population of 220 million, Zhou noted, adding that Pakistan needs time to build and cultivate its own purchasing power.

India also has a large amount of raw materials that can be exported to China while Pakistan has less of such resources, so it might be tough for Pakistan to overtake India in eight to ten years unless the bilateral trade relationship between China and India continues worsening, said Zhou.

However, there are meaningful changes taking place. Amid frayed bilateral ties following a deadly border clash as well as the Indian government’s ban on Chinese investment into the country, bilateral trade between China and India stood at $77.7 billion in 2020, down from $85.5 billion the previous year, according to data from the Ministry of Commerce and Industry of India.

At the same time, the relationship between China and Pakistan has become stronger and investment has been increasing. There has been a 34 percent increase in exports from Pakistan to China year-to-date, thanks to the bilateral free trade agreement, according to Zaman.

Experts also noted that Pakistan has its own advantage in that the CPEC has provided improved infrastructure for the country, and paved the way for its industrialization process. That means Pakistan will have more demand for imports and more goods to export to China in the coming decade.

The construction of a string of industrial parks will also help Pakistan to improve the quality of its exports, experts noted.

Some of the potential items Pakistan could export to China include copper, for which there is great demand in China, as well as cotton, sugar and textile products, according to Zaman and Zhou.

In 2020, the total trade between China and Pakistan totaled $17.49 billion, a year-on-year decrease of 2.7 percent, with imports from Pakistan reaching $2.12 billion, an increase of 17.5 percent compared with the previous year, according to data from the Ministry of Commerce.

China has been Pakistan’s biggest trade partner for six consecutive years since the 2015 fiscal year. China is also Pakistan’s main source of imports and second-largest export destination, according to data from the Economic and Commercial Office of the Chinese Embassy in Pakistan.

The recent attacks in Pakistan that resulted in the deaths of Chinese people will not affect the trade between the two countries and China-Pakistan cooperation projects under the Belt and Road Initiative, Zaman said, emphasizing that Pakistan is giving maximum priority to the safety of Chinese nationals.

China is paying close attention to Wednesday's gun attack in Pakistan in which at least one Chinese national was wounded. The case is under investigation and China has full confidence in Pakistan's protection of Chinese citizens and property, the Chinese Foreign Ministry said on Wednesday.

Global Times

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202107/1230056.shtml
 
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Unlikely with indians interference in Pakistans affairs with sabotage and terrorist activities across Pakistan.
 
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Nice to know Pakistanis discuss India at a China-Pakistan trade forum.

Recently in Uzbekistan in Asian conference, in almost every pitch with central asian nations they were trying to market Indian connectivity through Pakistan 🤣.
Even Pak PM is on record repeating this, seems like Indian obsession has reached on another level.
I mean whats the point to market when pakistan itself has no market access to india and India has literally no interest in courting pakistan tradewise with nothing to offer.
 
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Pakistan will take a lot of what is currently Indian business in the coming future. The advantage of CPEC, in particular, better connectivity, has allowed me to increase my company's business with Pakistani vendors significantly compared to 2 years ago. Pakistani vendors are getting better at matching even bettering the landed cost of their competitors - something they couldn't do a few years back. This trend will continue to be more apparent over the next 3-5 years.
 
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Pakistan will take a lot of what is currently Indian business in the coming future. The advantage of CPEC, in particular, better connectivity, has allowed me to increase my company's business with Pakistani vendors significantly compared to 2 years ago. Pakistani vendors are getting better at matching evening bettering the landed cost of their competitors - something they couldn't do a few years back. This trend will continue to be more apparent over the next 3-5 years.

Im pretty sure India is running a deficit with china , so please by all means help us out here.
 
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CPEC / Cheaper energy / FTA will mean that Pakistan has more opportunities than before - it is down to Pakistani exporters to "raise their game" and adopt international standards for their products so that they can be exported to the world - the mentality of "it is good enough" or "bait, and switch - of doing a good 1st batch and subsquent batches are of poor quality has to come to an end".

CPEC should allow for Pakistan to displace what India exports to China... if Pakistani's learn to play their cards correctly.
 
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“India has a population five to six times larger than that of Pakistan, so I hope that it will take eight to ten years to overtake them,” Badar U Zaman, commercial counsellor of the Embassy of Pakistan
How can we take projections of this 'commercial counsellor' seriously when he can't either do his basic maths or is not aware of basic facts.

  • India - 1,400 million
  • Pak - 220 million

Thus 1,400/220 = 6.3. Therefore the differance is six to seven times.
 
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yeah and in the next 10 years in that 77 billion mutual trade Pakistan exports will be 3 billion while the remaining will be imports.
 
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Quite impossible .

Most of indian export are of mineral fuels , nuclear machinery , cotton , organic chemicals .

Top exports of pakistan are cotton and rmg goods , not machinery , and all the above mentioned machinery is not so easy to manufacture , that too on scale .

And in most feild china is best in world , so why would it require pakistan when it can do it in house or from present foreign vendors who give the desired quality .

It can only be possible if everything is impoted from china , cause exports growth is only possible in raw food and raw materials . Nothing else .

Also pakistan is a risky bet to make .
 
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Pakistan will take a lot of what is currently Indian business in the coming future. The advantage of CPEC, in particular, better connectivity, has allowed me to increase my company's business with Pakistani vendors significantly compared t
o 2 years ago. Pakistani vendors are getting better at matching even bettering the landed cost of their competitors - something they couldn't do a few years back. This trend will continue to be more apparent over the next 3-5 years.
China is the largest producer of industrial inputs in the world

There's no finished product in world which doesn't has something Chinese

Pakistani industry can buy Chinese input's at a lower cost to make finished products to be exported to other countries

Even Chinese can utilize lower labor costs and closer proximity to middle East Africa market
 
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By Global Times
Published: Jul 29, 2021 10:48 PM

bba30349-20ec-4290-adb8-4f61af59e96b.jpeg

2021 China-Pakistan Trade Forum. Photo: Xiong Xinyi/GT.

Pakistan could overtake India in trade with China in just eight years, even though its trade volume with China was only one-fifth of India’s in 2020, a Pakistan diplomat told the Global Times at a forum in Beijing on Thursday.

In 2020, bilateral trade between China and Pakistan stood at $17.49 billion while between China and India it was $77.7 billion.

“India has a population five to six times larger than that of Pakistan, so I hope that it will take eight to ten years to overtake them,” Badar U Zaman, commercial counsellor of the Embassy of Pakistan in Beijing, told the Global Times at the 2021 China-Pakistan Trade Forum on Thursday.

Although Zaman did not provide more details to support his projections, analysts said the two country’s iron-clad relationship and the substantial progress already made in construction of the multi-billion-dollar CPEC projects could provide economic propulsion to boost bilateral trade.

A Chinese scholar studying China-Pakistan relations pointed out that there are obstacles for Pakistan in realizing this ambitious trade target. But such a scenario is not entirely impossible.

“If Pakistan hopes to overtake India in trade with China in eight to ten years, Pakistan has to increase its purchasing power and improve the standard for export goods to meet international standards,” said Zhou Rong, a senior researcher at the Chongyang Institute for Financial Studies at Renmin University of China.

India has a large market, given its population of nearly 1.4 billion, while Pakistan has a population of 220 million, Zhou noted, adding that Pakistan needs time to build and cultivate its own purchasing power.

India also has a large amount of raw materials that can be exported to China while Pakistan has less of such resources, so it might be tough for Pakistan to overtake India in eight to ten years unless the bilateral trade relationship between China and India continues worsening, said Zhou.

However, there are meaningful changes taking place. Amid frayed bilateral ties following a deadly border clash as well as the Indian government’s ban on Chinese investment into the country, bilateral trade between China and India stood at $77.7 billion in 2020, down from $85.5 billion the previous year, according to data from the Ministry of Commerce and Industry of India.

At the same time, the relationship between China and Pakistan has become stronger and investment has been increasing. There has been a 34 percent increase in exports from Pakistan to China year-to-date, thanks to the bilateral free trade agreement, according to Zaman.

Experts also noted that Pakistan has its own advantage in that the CPEC has provided improved infrastructure for the country, and paved the way for its industrialization process. That means Pakistan will have more demand for imports and more goods to export to China in the coming decade.

The construction of a string of industrial parks will also help Pakistan to improve the quality of its exports, experts noted.

Some of the potential items Pakistan could export to China include copper, for which there is great demand in China, as well as cotton, sugar and textile products, according to Zaman and Zhou.

In 2020, the total trade between China and Pakistan totaled $17.49 billion, a year-on-year decrease of 2.7 percent, with imports from Pakistan reaching $2.12 billion, an increase of 17.5 percent compared with the previous year, according to data from the Ministry of Commerce.

China has been Pakistan’s biggest trade partner for six consecutive years since the 2015 fiscal year. China is also Pakistan’s main source of imports and second-largest export destination, according to data from the Economic and Commercial Office of the Chinese Embassy in Pakistan.

The recent attacks in Pakistan that resulted in the deaths of Chinese people will not affect the trade between the two countries and China-Pakistan cooperation projects under the Belt and Road Initiative, Zaman said, emphasizing that Pakistan is giving maximum priority to the safety of Chinese nationals.

China is paying close attention to Wednesday's gun attack in Pakistan in which at least one Chinese national was wounded. The case is under investigation and China has full confidence in Pakistan's protection of Chinese citizens and property, the Chinese Foreign Ministry said on Wednesday.

Global Times

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202107/1230056.shtml
We shouldn't be competing india. Why set a bar.
 
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We shouldn't be competing india. Why set a bar.
It is better to set an over ambitious bar so that you can achieve atleast something which is commendable if not the actual target, I follow the same philosophy in my life, I know I will never top in an exam but I study like that so that I can score some great numbers even if I am not no. 1 in School or Class or wherever.
 
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Just want to add a couple of points based on my experience.

Pakistani businesses that export to international markets MUST focus on Client management.

I have often found Pakistani vendors to be difficult in communicating with pre and post-deal. And the problem is not the language barrier. I expect each deal from the seller side to be account-managed throughout its lifecycle with an assigned point of contact which if adopted would improve visibility, dependability and make the whole process less tedious - this is something I have found Indian vendors are better with.

Additionally, Pakistan representatives (owners/senior business development managers, etc) who I engage with are quick to agree to the terms during the contractual phase, but they don't double-check the order specs with their operations teams to see if it's possible. As a result, this behaviour has led to late deliveries, cancelled orders, reworks and non-compliance with Customs regulations.

To fix these types of problems and speaking from a UK perspective - focusing on client management is vital. Client management should not be within the job role of the owner or senior manager that hold internal responsibilities but a dedicated team. Furthermore, have representatives in each of your target markets who would be country-specific 'point of contacts'. There is more to it but these basics would help improve collaboration and mitigate the unit price if a Pakistan vendor cant compete on price. Finally, again from the UK perspective, I prefer DDP orders over FOB - a point of contact can offer this.
 
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