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Ajai Shukla: Pakistan Army - aal is not well
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi May 04, 2010, 0:29 IST
India’s evident climbdown at Thimphu, and Islamabad’s barely-concealed glee at resuming a dialogue process that was never going anywhere, should not obscure the big picture. From the strategic perspective, Pakistan today remains exactly where the most hawkish Indian analysts would want it: diminished on the Indian border and locked in bloody combat on its western reaches.

It is difficult to miss the irony: on the subcontinent’s northwestern frontier — the gateway to India for Alexander, Timur, Ghor, Ghazni and Babar — an alphabet soup of radical militants who ultimately threaten India are being held back by the Pakistan Army.


This stems not from any new love for India but from a long-delayed realisation amongst the generals, primarily Army Chief Ashfaq Kiyani, that the most immediate target in the militants’ cross hairs is the Pakistan Army, not India. The game has changed dramatically in the tribal areas of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, as the North West Frontier Province (NWFP) was renamed last month. Rawalpindi’s traditional modus operandi since 2006 — rattling a few sabres while negotiating a truce with the militants — is no longer an option. The Pakistan Army is now in a serious fight.
During earlier years, while Islamabad played faint-hearted footsie in the tribal areas with jehadi groups like the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), the world was carefully excluded from the tribal areas. With less to hide now, the Pakistan government has even dared to conduct a posse of Indian journalists through Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, where 150,000 Pakistani regulars beef up as many paramilitary scouts in manning 821 posts on the border with Afghanistan.

Given these circumstances, it is astonishing that anyone is buying into the ludicrous argument that things are going Pakistan’s way in Afghanistan and the tribal areas. The argument, which a beleaguered Pakistan Army is doing all it can to buttress, goes broadly as follows: with Obama looking to thin out forces substantially from Afghanistan before facing American voters in late 2012, the job of policing the AfPak badlands will fall into Islamabad’s lap. With a free hand to run the place, Pakistan’s Inter-Service Intelligence (ISI) will carry the Taliban to power in Kabul and then douse the flames in its tribal areas by reorganising it into a terror factory from where it can direct jehad towards India and the West.

This monochromatic argument fails on many counts. Even if handing over Afghanistan to the Taliban were as simple as loading the Quetta Shoora into trucks and driving it to Kabul, Islamabad no longer desires an unfettered Taliban in total control of Afghanistan; when the Taliban ruled from 1996-2001, Islamabad’s relations with that prickly animal were far from smooth. Pakistan now sees greater benefit in a splintered Afghanistan where power is delicately distributed: a beholden Taliban in charge in the south; and a weakened Hamid Karzai in Kabul, dependent on Islamabad for key elements of power. Islamabad’s wooing of Karzai has been under way for months and is yielding dividends. In March, on a visit to Pakistan, the Afghan president termed Pakistan a “twin brother” without whom peace could not be restored to Afghanistan. It was not a mere diplomatic flourish.

But even with the Taliban and Karzai willing to play ball, Islamabad realises that calibrating and maintaining a balance of power in Afghanistan will not be easy. Calling all the shots in Kabul is clearly unachievable; Pakistan’s more limited aims are to keep India out of Afghanistan, and to keep the lid on the Pashtunistan issue.

If Islamabad faces a tightrope walk in shaping Afghanistan’s political power structure, manipulating militancy presents an even thornier problem. Pakistan’s skill at organising purpose-built jehadi structures has resulted in chaos as the boundaries between militant groups effectively dissolve. Increasingly, a plethora of groups, including the Pakistani Taliban; Afghan Taliban factions like the Haqqani group; foreign groups from Uzbekistan, Arabia and Chechnya; sectarian militias like the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi; and the erstwhile India-centric groups like the Jaish-e-Mohammad and the Lashkar-e-Toiba; all train, plan and even operate in coordination.

The Pakistan Army’s and the ISI’s growing isolation from these groups is evident from a series of fidayeen and suicide attacks on army targets, including the General Headquarters in October 2009. Two months later, militants stormed a Pakistan Army mosque killing dozens, including the young son of Lt Gen Mohammad Masood Aslam, the corps commander who oversaw operations in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Militant groups are increasingly attacking the ISI; coordinated attacks have been launched on ISI offices in three cities.

Long-standing linkages still remain between the Pakistan Army and the jehadis it midwifed. And, where both sides find a convergence of interests, they can still work together. But only in India does the belief still run strong that the Pakistani establishment controls and directs the jehadis in a meaningful way. In fact, so much blood has already flowed that the “ISI’s terror factory” thesis is simplistic and outdated.

Despite the Pakistan Army’s unenviable plight, it inexplicably believes its upbeat rhetoric about victory (is) just ahead. But just as the J&K insurgency roiled on through years of upbeat Indian Army assessments, the Pakistan Army too will find itself embroiled in prolonged operations on its west. The Indian Army is large enough to contain multiple insurgencies while still retaining a formidable warfighting capability. That is not the case with Pakistan.




Basically the author claims Pakistan Taliban links are not so cordial and that they cannot co-exist without changing their characteristics in a big way.
 
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This report by an Indian ignores new developments between U.S. and pakistan and the changed situation all arround in favour of pakistan.

Even Israelis have been given a good talk by Mr,. Obama.

This is an old story
 
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The writer looks to me the spokesperson of General Kapoor. Look at his tall claims about Indian army.

The Indian Army is large enough to contain multiple insurgencies while still retaining a formidable warfighting capability. That is not the case with Pakistan.

Well in that case if our army is so weak then why the "formidable" Indian army has not attacked Pak yet. Ideal opportunity. Isn't it?
 
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The writer is making unnecessary grandiose claims about Indian army. Far from the present situation and the reality. Anyways the name of the writer is enough to tell us about the credibility of the writer.

:no:
 
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Without the American cover in Afghsnitan , india will not be able to hide in Afghanistan for long , it will simply be up rooted and thrown out. ( We'll make sure of this ;) )

The entire indian wet dream of using Afghansitan as a base against Pakistan was based on an endless American stay there.

The Global Economic situation is such that most Western countries wont have pockets deep enough to continue to support the American-led war in Afghansitan and Americans are on their way out from Afghanistan.
 
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The writer is making unnecessary grandiose claims about Indian army. Far from the present situation and the reality. Anyways the name of the writer is enough to tell us about the credibility of the writer.

:no:

You are focussing on just two sentences of the approx. 500 word article. Does that mean that you agree with everything else in the piece?
 
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Politics is indeed dirty business , to solve Pakistan's miltancy problem we can always make it 'someone elses' problem :D and I assure you that we can
 
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This might be a little off topic but the indian army long time ago relaized that it cannot take on the Pakistani Army any more and they decided to fence the indo-pak border up to the LOC.
 
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What is 'aal', and by the way, after this WOT is over, Pakistani military capabilites and its equipment will be equal to those of India's. It is going through rapid advancement that has increased its conventional and insurgent war fighting capabilities.

Just wait and see, we are not a sanctinoed islotaed country anymore who did not have backing of a powerful ally.
 
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To me its an effort to sooth indians after their diplomatic retreat at Thampho. nothing substanitial.
 
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You are focussing on just two sentences of the approx. 500 word article. Does that mean that you agree with everything else in the piece?

Seriously speaking I didn't found something new or reasonable from the rest of the article. The same old India ruckus of so called infiltration in IOK and Pakistan's internal problems relation with it. That is why I said the name of the writer is enough to tell us about the article.
 
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Pakistan is getting a lot of funding, training, weapons, technologies, helos etc from America to help in WoT, once we are finished with these taliban junkies.. guess whos next :bounce:
 
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^^^^^

Lo ji....aa gaye miyan aukaat pe.....Kuch kahne ko hua nahi....toh chalo thodi gandagi hi kar lain....


The thread is about Pakistan army and not India army......but some people would never learn I guess...


the orignal article discusses the position of indian army vis a vis Pakistan army in the current scenario so obviously indian army comes in the picture
 
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The reason analysts have been arguing that 'events are going Pakistan's way' is because the regional situation relative to a couple of years ago is markedly improved in Pakistan's favor.

The author's entire premise, 'The argument, which a beleaguered Pakistan Army is doing all it can to buttress, goes broadly as follows: with Obama looking to thin out forces substantially from Afghanistan before facing American voters in late 2012, the job of policing the AfPak badlands will fall into Islamabad’s lap. With a free hand to run the place, Pakistan’s Inter-Service Intelligence (ISI) will carry the Taliban to power in Kabul and then douse the flames in its tribal areas by reorganising it into a terror factory from where it can direct jehad towards India and the West', is flawed and a contradiction of everything Pakistani military and civilian officials have said, on and off the record, about the role they see for the Afghan Taliban and the potential US withdrawal.

No less than Gen. Kiyani has been quoted as saying that Pakistan does not want a Talibanized Afghanistan, and almost everyone is in agreement that a hasty US withdrawal (completely) will not be in Pakistan's interests.

It is only Indian commentators that continue to stick to outdated analysis in order to concoct some manner of stick to beat Pakistan with.

STICK TO THE TOPIC OR GET BANNED.
 
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By the way, it reflects rather poorly on the author when he uses a title that makes fun of a particular accent.

Is this a strategic analysis or a screenplay for a Mumbai tamasha?

AS (one s less than an AS-S, quite appropriately) must have some BR lineage.
 
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