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By Sherry Rehman

The NATO summit in Chicago will focus on the endgame in Afghanistan on the heels of U.S. House debate on bills that will shape the nature of the U.S.-Pakistan relationship. The tone of this debate and the diplomacy of the Obama administration will send a clear signal to the 180 million people of Pakistan as to whether the world's oldest democracy will stand with one of the world's newest democracies to defeat terrorism and extremism for a politically stable and economically viable South Asia. Many are pessimistic.

However, a series of confidence-building measures could recast our bilateral relationship. If the war against extremism is to succeed, the war of words between democratic allies must end.

The U.S. and Pakistan have had a rocky year. The unilateral raid on Abbottabad, the Raymond Davis CIA provocation, the U.S.-led NATO air assault in Salalah that tragically killed 24 Pakistani soldiers and the continuing unauthorized drone attacks on Pakistani soil have frayed our 60-year special relationship.

We can dwell on the things that have separated us or work toward rebuilding the relationship.

Pakistan has taken the first step to restoring normalcy to U.S.-Pakistan relations by working to reopen the NATO supply routes that were closed after the Salalah tragedy.

Significant progress could be made toward resetting the relationship between our countries if the U.S. were to:

•Finally apologize for the battlefield deaths at Salalah.

•Reimburse the Coalition Support Funds — U.S. repayments to Pakistan for the cost of battling terrorism — owed to Pakistan, a very small part of the $78 billion that Pakistan has lost on account of the war against extremism since 2001.

•Increase the sharing of counterterrorism intelligence to assist our military in combating extremism.

•Cease the controversial drone operations that violate our sovereignty and the norms of international law.

•Shift to a policy of trade not aid by providing enhanced access to U.S. markets for Pakistan's exports.

These game-changing steps would serve as a deathblow to extremist expansion in the region.

As the U.S. prepares to exit from South and Central Asia — again — in 2014, those of us who live and will remain in the region have a legitimate interest in a stable and responsible security transition in Afghanistan.

Pakistan has paid an enormous price in our battle against al-Qaida, with more than 37,000 civilians and nearly 6,300 security forces killed. Former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto gave her life fighting this scourge. Given this level of clear commitment, coupled with sacrifice, it is unseemly for our resolve against terrorism to be questioned by the West.

The 46 nations fighting in Afghanistan represent countries with an aggregate gross domestic product of more than $365 trillion, and an aggregate military force of nearly 22 million troops. When this unprecedented coalition cannot contain the terrorists on the Afghan side of the border, it is naive to assume that Pakistan alone can completely eliminate terrorist activity on our side of the border. We have 140,000 troops in daily combat against the militants in FATA, Pakistan's Federally Administered Tribal Areas, and Waziristan. We are hardly passive allies in our existential battle against militancy.

America may not be aware that our successful (and costly) effort to clear thousands of terrorists from Swat, Bajaur and Mohmand has been undermined by militants who now find sanctuary in eastern Afghanistan from which they continuously attack our civilians and our soldiers. Despite the enormous efforts taken and huge casualties suffered, Pakistan's efforts are in vain if NATO cannot provide the anvil to Pakistan's hammer.

The threat to Pakistan is real and constant. The daily attacks shatter lives on a level we could never have imagined before 2001. Each military offensive launched in our tribal areas results in immediate attacks on our schools, hospitals, markets and religious shrines across our nation. Yet we are resilient. We continue the fight.

My embassy updates the U.S. Congress on a weekly basis of the toll this fight has taken on the men, women and children of our country — a staggering 43,726 confirmed dead. Just last week an additional 34 Pakistani civilians and 18 security personnel were killed in my country as we fight this war. This is our reality.

While some may question our commitment and ask whether we are doing enough, the truth is that Pakistan — our government, civilians and our soldiers — want a swift victory over terror more than anyone. Our existence depends on it. In order to succeed, America and Pakistan must forge a new beginning together, starting today.

Sherry Rehman is Pakistan's ambassador to the United States.

A better relationship for U.S., Pakistan - chicagotribune.com
 
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I think the US has already conveyed that it does not intend to apologise.
Yes! they will never be going to appologize cuz they did that killings intentional and why they need to appologize for it??...it was not accidental and they have hidden agenda behind this intentional killingz....They want to do further killings in the very near future to start another war and thats their motive......the appology will make them accept their mistake and won't let them do that again.....Now if they don't appologize this means that Pakistan is wrong and they are right so they did the right thing too kill the soldiers .They will have reason to do that again in the near future as well......This means USA is trying to be over smart..Never mind cuz we already know their game ......:smokin:

We love this kind of their over smartness....let USA be oversmart again within the near future as well we know how to make them Under-smart then......:smokin:
 
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Yes! they will never be going to appologize cuz they did that killings intentional and why they need to appologize for it??...it was not accidental and they have hidden agenda behind this intentional killingz....They want to do further killings in the very near future to start another war and thats their motive......the appology will make them accept their mistake and won't let them do that again.....Now if they don't appologize this means that Pakistan is wrong and they are right so they did the right thing too kill the soldiers .They will have reason to do that again in the near future as well......This means USA is trying to be over smart..Never mind cuz we already know their game ......:smokin:

We love this kind of their over smartness....let USA be oversmart again within the near future as well we know how to make them Under-smart then......:smokin:

Nothing would reset without an apology...we have already given them a sense of reward by tactical release of 400 dangerous talibans from bannu jail
 
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Yes! they will never be going to appologize cuz they did that killings intentional and why they need to appologize for it??...it was not accidental and they have hidden agenda behind this intentional killingz....They want to do further killings in the very near future to start another war and thats their motive......the appology will make them accept their mistake and won't let them do that again.....Now if they don't appologize this means that Pakistan is wrong and they are right so they did the right thing too kill the soldiers .They will have reason to do that again in the near future as well......This means USA is trying to be over smart..Never mind cuz we already know their game ......:smokin:

We love this kind of their over smartness....let USA be oversmart again within the near future as well we know how to make them Under-smart then......:smokin:

Nothing would reset without an apology...we have already given them a sense of reward by tactical release of 400 dangerous talibans from bannu jail
 
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And in another news

US rejects high Pakistan fees for supply routes: official | DAWN.COM

CHICAGO: US-Pakistani talks on reopening vital supply routes for Nato forces in Afghanistan have faltered over Islamabad’s “unacceptable” demand to charge steep fees for trucks crossing the border, a senior US official told AFP Sunday.

Pakistan also has failed to present a coherent, consistent position in the negotiations, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The US official said “to some extent it’s something the Pakistanis will have to work out themselves.”

”Inside the Pakistani government, they need a consolidated proposal for what to put on the table.”

The official confirmed that Pakistan has proposed an exponential increase in fees, from the current rate of about $250 per truck to “thousands of dollars.” “That’s, in a word, unacceptable,” he said.

The proposed fees were a concern not only for the United States but other Nato countries with troops in Afghanistan, the official said, as the alliance plans a gradual withdrawal of most combat forces over the next two years.

Asked if the United States was willing to consider a dramatic hike in border fees, the official said: “Not when seven or eight months ago we were paying a small fraction of that figure.”

The United States still expected to work out a deal eventually on the border crossing but hopes had faded for an agreement that could be announced before or during Nato’s summit in Chicago on Sunday and Monday, the official said.

“I think you’ll see a resolution soon but it will take a little more work,”he said.

After botched US air strikes killed 24 Pakistani soldiers in November, Pakistan shut the Torkham border gate on its northwest border, forcing Nato to rely on northern routes and cargo aircraft to ferry supplies and troops into Afghanistan.

Talks scheduled in Chicago between Nato Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen and Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari were canceled Saturday.

Both Nato and Pakistani officials insisted to AFP that the last-minute delay in the planned meeting was due to the late arrival of Zardari’s flight from London.
 
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as i always said, of all the partners in war, pakistan alone can decide the outcome and that is why pakistan alone is singled out not for reward but for punishment by anglo-americans. for US knows pakistan must make too much sacrifice to be easily bribed by a few cheap dollars.

this is what was said of Qin's generals at the time of china's unification: every mediocre general who won a modest victory for Qin was going to be rewarded with enfeoffment and money and women, but when an unearthly genius came along in the shape of bai qi or meng tian, who won victories so glorious and immortal for their kingdom and so utterly ruinous for their enemies, there was simply nothing the Qin kings could justly reward their triumphs with - and the kings had to murder them. it is that simple: when one's effort exceeds all possible prizes he can win, one is bound to get shortchanged.

pakistanis have been singularly brave (far, far braver than the american, european remote-control "warriors" whose career choice was playing heroes in video games) in fighting terrorism; pakistanis have been singularly stoic in suffering the horror of war (far, far more stoic in facing death than the american, european military "trainers" who often died not because they didn't try their uttermost to avoid danger but because even their cowardice in hiding in fortified barracks couldn't stop the bullets of their afghan "trainees"). the effort pakistan, its army, its people, have put in this war has far, far exceeded anything americans are prepared to give them; in fact, pakistani effort has far exceeded all the strategic prizes americans could possibly win in this war. so what do anglo-americans really have to reward pakistan with? nothing, zero, nada, zip, zilch, none. and with the deep shame and guilt of using and cheating pakistan comes americans' determination to humiliate and punish pakistan. this villainous, diabolic, bastardly psychological overcompensation alone explains US' strategic calculation right now and why these sons of bitches wanted to question pakistan's nobility, sacrifice and bravery in this war and why these sons of bitches got the temerity to withhold the blood money that is meant to offer the tiniest bit of comfort the widowed and bereft of fallen pakistani soldiers.

there is no point in begging for an american apology any more, my pakistani friends: go seize what is rightfully yours - win the war for yourself and yourself alone.
 
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as i always said, of all the partners in war, pakistan alone can decide the outcome and that is why pakistan alone is singled out not for reward but for punishment by anglo-americans. for US knows pakistan must make too much sacrifice to be easily bribed by a few cheap dollars.

this is what was said of Qin's generals at the time of china's unification: every mediocre general who won a modest victory for Qin was going to be rewarded with enfeoffment and money and women, but when an unearthly genius came along in the shape of bai qi or meng tian, who won victories so glorious and immortal for their kingdom and so utterly ruinous for their enemies, there was simply nothing the Qin kings could justly reward their triumphs with - and the kings had to murder them. it is that simple: when one's effort exceeds all possible prizes he can win, one is bound to get shortchanged.

pakistanis have been singularly brave (far, far braver than the american, european remote-control "warriors" whose career choice was playing heroes in video games) in fighting terrorism; pakistanis have been singularly stoic in suffering the horror of war (far, far more stoic in facing death than the american, european military "trainers" who often died not because they didn't try their uttermost to avoid danger but because even their cowardice in hiding in fortified barracks couldn't stop the bullets of their afghan "trainees"). the effort pakistan, its army, its people, have put in this war has far, far exceeded anything americans are prepared to give them; in fact, pakistani effort has far exceeded all the strategic prizes americans could possibly win in this war. so what do anglo-americans really have to reward pakistan with? nothing, zero, nada, zip, zilch, none. and with the deep shame and guilt of using and cheating pakistan comes americans' determination to humiliate and punish pakistan. this villainous, diabolic, bastardly psychological overcompensation alone explains US' strategic calculation right now and why these sons of bitches wanted to question pakistan's nobility, sacrifice and bravery in this war and why these sons of bitches got the temerity to withhold the blood money that is meant to offer the tiniest bit of comfort the widowed and bereft of fallen pakistani soldiers.

there is no point in begging for an american apology any more, my pakistani friends: go seize what is rightfully yours - win the war for yourself and yourself alone.

I concur that the drone strikes are largely ineffective. The militant supply hasn't really started running out yet and there are still plenty of elements that could wreak havoc. You need to send people in on the ground. And what else would be better than to send in people who speak the language and are actually familiar with the customs and the locality? The US should learn not to isolate critical allies in a long-drawn out war like this. This is the result of some real bad diplomacy on their part.
 
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The American administration has already made its stand on an apology very clear.
As far as fees are concerned, our govt. should have discussed this years ago. Asking/Begging for more money now is nothing more than a clear indicator that our government is nothing more than idiots.
 
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as i always said, of all the partners in war, pakistan alone can decide the outcome and that is why pakistan alone is singled out not for reward but for punishment by anglo-americans. for US knows pakistan must make too much sacrifice to be easily bribed by a few cheap dollars.

this is what was said of Qin's generals at the time of china's unification: every mediocre general who won a modest victory for Qin was going to be rewarded with enfeoffment and money and women, but when an unearthly genius came along in the shape of bai qi or meng tian, who won victories so glorious and immortal for their kingdom and so utterly ruinous for their enemies, there was simply nothing the Qin kings could justly reward their triumphs with - and the kings had to murder them. it is that simple: when one's effort exceeds all possible prizes he can win, one is bound to get shortchanged.

pakistanis have been singularly brave (far, far braver than the american, european remote-control "warriors" whose career choice was playing heroes in video games) in fighting terrorism; pakistanis have been singularly stoic in suffering the horror of war (far, far more stoic in facing death than the american, european military "trainers" who often died not because they didn't try their uttermost to avoid danger but because even their cowardice in hiding in fortified barracks couldn't stop the bullets of their afghan "trainees"). the effort pakistan, its army, its people, have put in this war has far, far exceeded anything americans are prepared to give them; in fact, pakistani effort has far exceeded all the strategic prizes americans could possibly win in this war. so what do anglo-americans really have to reward pakistan with? nothing, zero, nada, zip, zilch, none. and with the deep shame and guilt of using and cheating pakistan comes americans' determination to humiliate and punish pakistan. this villainous, diabolic, bastardly psychological overcompensation alone explains US' strategic calculation right now and why these sons of bitches wanted to question pakistan's nobility, sacrifice and bravery in this war and why these sons of bitches got the temerity to withhold the blood money that is meant to offer the tiniest bit of comfort the widowed and bereft of fallen pakistani soldiers.

there is no point in begging for an american apology any more, my pakistani friends: go seize what is rightfully yours - win the war for yourself and yourself alone.

Dont worry our Chinese friends..We highly appreciate your concern for Pak and highly regrd it...But I am sure our army knows, how to punish the Americans for what they did to Pak soldiers and also civilains...I am sure, Pak Army will not forget what they did to our soldiers in Salala, even if they apologise.. We are just waiting for the right time.. After all its not much difficult to repeat what we have already done once before..Pak's ISI buried the once mighty super power Soveit Union in Afghanistan, without going to direct war with them.. I am sure Pak Army and ISI is capable of doing it again.. After being allied with US for more than 10 yrs, all Pak got is more terrorism in Pak(which was never there b4 US arrival in Afghanistan, not even during Taliban regime in Afghanistan), and death of our civilians and soldiers, at the hands of US..and even after doing all it could for US, it always got "do more mantra".. I am sure Pak Army has learnt its lesson by now...Apology is for the nation's self respect...otherwise, Pak Army, i am sure, will do what it must do, to teach US a lesson, for what it has been doing to Pak, all these yrs...and for tht , Pak Army/ISI doesnt have to invent something new.. It only has to repeat what it did in 80's to the Soviets...
 
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Nothing would reset without an apology...we have already given them a sense of reward by tactical release of 400 dangerous talibans from bannu jail
eh,,i think that was purely an accident.Why would we release terrorists that would take up arms against us rather then US!
 
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There is no new beginning in USPAK relationship because of the very fact that its a master & slave relationship , a donor & beggar relationship. A new beginning can only be hoped in a relationship where there is mutual trust and understanding as well as economic and strategic parity.

US treats Pakistan as a satellite state run by a corrupted regime installed for doing precisely what they are doing right now. There is never going to be a "new start" with the US until this system is not toppled & replaced with pro-state elements.

Regards:
 
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There is no new beginning in USPAK relationship because of the very fact that its a master & slave relationship , a donor & beggar relationship. A new beginning can only be hoped in a relationship where there is mutual trust and understanding as well as economic and strategic parity.

US treats Pakistan as a satellite state run by a corrupted regime installed for doing precisely what they are doing right now. There is never going to be a "new start" with the US until this system is not toppled & replaced with pro-state elements.

Regards:

you say it all sir jee i was typing it then i read your post .lolz

which new beginning ? new $$ with new dirty works ?
 
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