Sulman Badshah
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Wdym derailYou commenting about rimon 20 to try and derail is coping.
Cope harder
You derail all the threads you are in.Wdym derail
Topic says only Pakistan shot down multiple Soviet fighters since WW2 and it's false information
8 kills, with only one Soviet Su-25. Everything else was Afghan Air Force. This table has some wrong info.
When Generals play diplomats, peacemakers, statesmen, political brokers, their core competency i.e. generalship atrophies. Even security became elusive in the national security state until a professional general (Raheel Sharif) emerged.What a fall from grace. Hard to think that Pakistan had balls to dogfight and shot down soviet jets.
8 kills, with only one Soviet Su-25. Everything else was Afghan Air Force. This table has some wrong info.
The graph doesn't show any kills by No. 11 Sqn?
84723 was flown by No. 9 squadron with Hameed Qadri (Late) acquiring both kills, one missile and one guns. Eventually this aircraft was transferred to Kamra with No. 14 squadron and was lost in 1991. Another crashed (85725) around a few months later, which led to PAF grounding all their Viper fleet for almost a year.
So this aircraft was of No.11 sqn but was transferred to No.9?84723 was flown by No. 9 squadron with Hameed Qadri (Late) acquiring both kills, one missile and one guns. Eventually this aircraft was transferred to Kamra with No. 14 squadron and was lost in 1991. Another crashed (85725) around a few months later, which led to PAF grounding all their Viper fleet for almost a year.
No it was always with No. 9. Pilots from No. 11 at the time were posing with it.So this aircraft was of No.11 sqn but was transferred to No.9?
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Because Western countries are smart.unlike hot-headed Muslims including Pakistan.Comparing Pakistani military response to the Soviet Union invasion of Afghanistan with NATO's military response to Russian invasion of Ukraine, the West so far has been very cowardly.
No Western nation wants to confront the Russians head on, just a lot of noise so far and a lot of hope that Russia will collapse economically or it will lead to civil unrest in Russia (like as if China is going to allow that to happen exposing it's entire Northern border).
You mean, defending your nation and its interests, is hot headed and not smart? Hmmm....Because Western countries are smart.unlike hot-headed Muslims including Pakistan.
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defending your nation smartly not what zia did. converting Pakistan into a extremist society and allowing afghan refugees in Pakistan.it is the Afghan who introduced drug and gun culture in Pakistan.You mean, defending your nation and its interests, is hot headed and not smart? Hmmm....
It's hard for me to think that there was a time Pakistan had the balls to dogfight and shot down Soviet jets. The same Soviet Union military which during its peak gave US sleepless nights.What, are you under the impression that we should go & shoot down their Jets every week?
Tell me something, if you start flexing your muscles (today) when pretty much everyone is against you - what exactly do you intended to achieve?It's hard for me to think that there was a time Pakistan had the balls to dogfight and shot down Soviet jets. The same Soviet Union military which during its peak gave US sleepless nights.
Drone strikes, Salala incident and OBL raid. Ring a bell? That was why I said "What a fall from grace".