Pak Rejects Indian Proposal to Declare Nuclear Doctrine

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Declare n-doctrine: India to Pak - Indian Express


India has asked Pakistan to enunciate its nuclear doctrine to ensure “transparency and predictability” to its nuclear policy, official sources said here on Thursday. The demand was made at a meeting of the expert group on nuclear confidence building measures (CBMs) earlier this week.
It is learnt that officials from the Pakistan Army were part of the talks on December 27 in Islamabad, which was led by officials from the foreign ministries of the two countries. The talks took place after four years — the last such engagement was in Delhi in 2007.

Sources said that in view of the concerns about the safety and security of Pakistan’s nuclear assets, there is a felt need for an official doctrine on their nuclear “command and control”. India has declared its nuclear doctrine.

New Delhi, sources said, has told Islamabad that if it demonstrates practical measures on “restraint and responsibility” towards its nuclear assets, it will be considered a “confidence-building measure” (CBM) on the nuclear front. Sources said that Pakistan was also asked to lower the nuclear threshold.

Pakistan, sources said, has not been willing to accept any restraint on its nuclear programme so far. “These long standing concerns are not just from India but from the international community as well,” official sources said.

India has also asked Pakistan to not block the FMCT negotiations and allow talks to resume. Pakistan is the only country standing in the way of restarting the negotiations, sources said.

The two countries discussed proposals on nuclear safety at the meeting, and agreed to extend the pact on nuclear accidents with regard to weapons, which expires in February 2012.

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[OrionHunter]

Nuclear ambivalence is the best doctrine that Pakistan can have. This would keep India on tenterhooks till the end of days.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Pakistan is not obliged to reveal it's nuclear doctrine. Ambuguity is an integeral part of that doctrine.

 

[Major.]

Pakistan is not obliged to reveal it's nuclear doctrine. Ambuguity is an integeral part of that doctrine.

May be but by declaring doctrine will allow it to earn respect and trust of world towards Pakistan. How much i wish that Pakistan had a strong government that would control the army. I feel we need to have some sci-fi stuff in place like hot line between Prime Minister in case of nuclear conflict, airborne command i.e, Doomsday plane etc....

We should be competing each other than fighting each other....The problem of giving governance with the army is, it is with too much emotion and bravado that they take decision.

Here is an example how a IAF chief took a decision in the heat of the situation

"After 26/11 Prime minister called national security meeting, in that meeting prime minister asked what are the possible reactions that are available. Then then strategic forces command head ACM retd Fali Homi Major, told to conduct surgical strikes on terrorist hied outs in pakistan. But fortunately the other two service chief's vetoed it by saying its a emotional decision."

So always there should cool heads on shoulder to take decisions, it is difficult in case of pakistan when the army is at the helm.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Pakistan is not obliged to reveal it's nuclear doctrine. Ambuguity is an integeral part of that doctrine.

Exactly right.

 

[acetophenol]

Declaring the nuke-doctrine will help pakistan to gain trust

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Declaring the nuke-doctrine will help pakistan to gain trust

Yeah, from Indians.

What is the point of getting your enemy to "trust" you?

 

[hohohoho]

Yeah, from Indians.

What is the point of getting your enemy to "trust" you?

so u want Pak to remain only India centric.Pak should be looking for global opinion and respect rather

 

[acetophenol]

Yeah, from Indians.

What is the point of getting your enemy to "trust" you?

First step in making peace.

 

[janon]

It seems naive on India's part to expect pak to make this clear. What for, so as to help India remain just under that threshold if initiating a war? Obviously the ambiguity is part of their deterrance strategy.

 

[acetophenol]

It seems naive on India's part to expect pak to make this clear. What for, so as to help India remain just under that threshold if initiating a war? Obviously the ambiguity is part of their deterrance strategy.

We aren't asking pakistan to reveal how they will deploy their conventional weapons. Ambiguity can be applied for conventional weapons.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

First step in making peace.

You could have made peace with China and Pakistan any time you wanted. Instead, you claim Pakistani land (such as Kashmir) and Chinese land (such as Aksai chin).

Pakistan has a low nuclear threshold, because Indians keep boasting about "striking" Pakistan, like what happened after the Mumbai attacks.

 

[janon]

We aren't asking pakistan to reveal how they will deploy their conventional weapons. Ambiguity can be applied for conventional weapons.

What does ambiguity in conventional weapons mean? You mean where they deploy it? Thats not the ambiguity I was talking about. I was talking about the ambiguity regarding WHEN they will use nukes, not where from.

 

[IndoUS]

You could have made peace with China and Pakistan any time you wanted. Instead, you claim Pakistani land (such as Kashmir) and Chinese land (such as Aksai chin).

Pakistan has a low nuclear threshold, because Indians keep boasting about "striking" Pakistan, like what happened after the Mumbai attacks.

So by what you are saying, if there is a attacks in China and a foreign hand is involved you will just sit back not even give a stern warning.

 

[janon]

You could have made peace with China and Pakistan any time you wanted. Instead, you claim Pakistani land (such as Kashmir) and Chinese land (such as Aksai chin).

Pakistan has a low nuclear threshold, because Indians keep boasting about "striking" Pakistan, like what happened after the Mumbai attacks.

The mumbai attack was a strike by pakistanis on India (conspiracy theories aside). And in all previous wars, pak has struck first. And your parantheses about kashmir being pakistani land is just a flaim bait that I will not take, and request others not to.

So pakistanis do mumbai attack, india talks about retaliation, and somehow that makes india the warmongers? Think carefully.

You are saying that Pak should have a low threshold because in future if they commit another terror act, India might retaliate? Logically then shouldnt they just stop producing terrorists?

Pak can just stop mumbai attacks and other terrorist activities from happening, and thats what you should be telling them - not telling India to not even talk of retaliating. Pak wont need a low nuclear threshold if it just stopped things like that from happpeing.