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Pak boat 4 persons on boat blew themselves up! After hot pursuit by Coast Guard in Arabian Sea

NEW DELHI: In what could have been another attempt to unleash havoc on Indian shores like the 26/11 terror strikes, the Indian Coast Guard intercepted a suspicious Pakistani fishing boat, laden with explosives, in the Arabian Sea in the early hours of January 1.

The four people on board the boat apparently blew themselves up after being chased by the Coast Guard for over an hour and warning shots being fired during the incident.

Defence ministry sources on Friday said the Pakistani fishing boat, on way from Keti Bunder near Karachi, was intercepted by the Coast Guard approximately 365 km from Porbander.

"The Coast Guard warned the boat to stop but it increased speed and tried to run away. After being stopped, the four persons on board the boat blew themselves up. The boat sank at the spot. Search operations are still in progress," said a source.

Terrorists do not just go around blowing themselves up like that. The point of blowing oneself up is not just to avoid getting caught, but to take down some of the enemy through the explosion or do some damage to enemy assets.

It does not make sense that they blew themselves up without any chance of damage being done to the enemy.

The initial reports said there were coast guard personnel who got killed. Then later reports do not mention that. Very strange and suspicious.
 
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Terrorists do not just go around blowing themselves up like that. The point of blowing oneself up is not just to avoid getting caught, but to take down some of the enemy through the explosion or do some damage to enemy assets.

It does not make sense that they blew themselves up without any chance of damage being done to the enemy.

The initial reports said there were coast guard personnel who got killed. Then later reports do not mention that. Very strange and suspicious.

even if they came from Pakistan and were smugglers or fishermen - everyone knows the inhumane, disease-filled and unhygienic conditions of indian detention centers

those guys for all we know could know how bad those conditions are....the fishermen have a kind of fraternity - they all talk and share stories.

if they were jihadis - i can assure you they would have had more than just fuel or even crude IEDs they would have had firearms, perhaps RPG-7s and they would have fought the indians to the end - not fleeing and alluding a coast guard on their tail

and one of the most important points - that if the SUSPECTS had gone below deck and "exploded themselves" - then why the fck was the structural frame of the vessel intact? It was a burning wreck, but it wasnt obliterated. It sunk only after burning for quite some time


for these reasons - i just dont buy the indian story. Not a damned word. But that's me. I wasnt there.

4 less Pakistani terrorists in the world. That cant be bad.. Good start to a new year..

70 indians killed by bodo seperatists (a.k.a. internal homegrown terrorists in india)

cant exactly be seen as a good ending to 2014, leading to the new year

Mickey-Mouse-Modi's predecessor on many occasions professed that the single-largest threat to india's national security and cohesion comes from WITHIN india. I'm inclined to agree with him, looking at raw statistics which simply dont lie
 
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and one of the most important points - that if the SUSPECTS had gone below deck and "exploded themselves" - then why the fck was the structural frame of the vessel intact? It was a burning wreck, but it wasnt obliterated. It sunk only after burning for quite some time

That is one point that has bugged me throughout this whole drama.

At the moment the Intense Drama Ministry is working on voice recordings to show "proof" and for even that easy work they require 3-4 days.
 
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That is one point that has bugged me throughout this whole drama.

At the moment the Intense Drama Ministry is working on voice recordings to show "proof" and for even that easy work they require 3-4 days.

yeah - like they required 2 months to provide a dossier containing marathi prose and poetry, with a few pictures of "made in Pakistan toothpaste" and shaving cream.

been there, done that....26/11 was an inside job, indians have their own people to thank for that one

Pakistan had NOTHING to gain from indian CIVILIANS getting machine-gunned in broad daylight.




p.s. the ISI had intel about a possible operation to target jewish targets in Mumbai.....ISI tipped off the israeli mossad service (as courtesy, despite no relations with israel)

WHY didnt the indians act by boosting security in their financial capital?
 
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Here is my analysis up to this point.

Something "fishy" --no pun intended -- happened out at sea, and somebody or the other is trying to cover it up, and somebody or the other is trying to get some anti-Pakistan mileage out of it, and somebody is trying to do damage control because of all the falsehoods being spouted, and the end result is a confused mass of contradictions and vague claims with a lot of posturing and emotion to go with it.

There, that wasn't so hard. I think I have it all figured out.
 
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Doubts mount over India’s claims of destroying ‘terror boat’ from Pakistan

Doubts mount over India’s claims of destroying ‘terror boat’ from Pakistan | The Indian Express | Page 2

Written by Praveen Swami | New Delhi | Posted: January 2, 2015 10:00 pm | Updated: January 3, 2015 1:40 pm

Less than 48 hours after the Coast Guard destroyed a boat it suspected was ferrying explosives and terrorists from Pakistan into Indian waters, new evidence has begun to emerge that those on board might have been small-time liquor and diesel smugglers, ferrying bootleg cargo from the port of Gwadar to other fishing boats which were to have carried it into Karachi’s Keti Bandar harbour.

There is also a suggestion of use of disproportionate force since the fishing boat did not have an engine capable of outrunning Indian interceptors.

In a press release, the Ministry of Defence said that “as per the intelligence inputs received on 31st December, a fishing boat from Keti Bunder near Karachi was planning some illicit transaction in Arabian Sea”.

Highly-placed government sources, however, said the intelligence had no link to terrorism, and made no reference to any threat to India. Instead, the sources said, the National Technical Research Organisation had intercepted mobile phone traffic involving small-time smugglers operating out of the fishing port of Keti Bandar, near Karachi.

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The report, the sources said, was issued directly to the Coast Guard and Navy by a mid-level NTRO official in violation of systems which mandate that any possible threat must be shared with all relevant services, including the Intelligence Bureau, the Research and Analysis Wing, and the Border Security Force.

Naval headquarters, the sources said, chose not to deploy ships in response to the intelligence, noting that it did not involve any threat to national security. However, the Coast Guard scrambled at least one interceptor from Porbandar, which was seen leaving dock by local fishermen late on the night of New Year’s Eve.

A senior Gujarat Police official said that the Coast Guard did not share the information with the state police which also has interceptor boats and coastal police stations meant to interdict coastal trafficking. Maharashtra Police officials also said they were given no information on a maritime operation underway on December 31, and expressed surprise since the state has several landing points and jetties that could be used by a boat carrying explosives to India’s western seaboard.

“You don’t need to be a genius to figure out we should have been told,” the official said, “because if the fishing boat was actually carrying explosives and managed to evade patrols on the seas, we should have been in position waiting for it.”

There is little clarity, so far, on the circumstances under which lethal force was used. In
its press release, the Ministry said that a “hot pursuit continued for nearly one hour and the Coast Guard ship managed to stop the fishing boat after firing warning shots”.

“Four persons were seen on the boat who disregarded all warnings by the Coast Guard ship to stop and cooperate with investigation. Soon thereafter, the crew hid themselves in below-deck compartment and set the boat on fire, which resulted in explosion and major fire on the boat,” the release stated.

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But three naval officers told The Indian Express it was inconceivable that Pakistani fishing boats — typically four-crew vessels, with an average length of less than 25 metres and equipped with 80-220 horsepower diesel engines, or smaller mechanised sailboats with 30 horsepower engines — could outrun the Coast Guard’s state-of-the-art ships.

Photographs released to media showed only fire damage to the ship’s hull, which would have blown apart had incendiary munitions, such as grenades or ammunition, been on board. Plastic explosive does not ordinarily explode in fires, and only chemical analysis can detect if it was on board. Ministry sources said the Coast Guard has not retrieved debris from the area for forensic analysis.

The Ministry’s press release also said that “due to darkness, bad weather and strong winds, the boat and persons on board could not be saved or recovered”.

However, open-source meteorological data for the Porbandar coast for the year-end shows conditions were almost ideal right through the second fortnight of December 15, 2014 to January 1, with cloudless skies and, on December 31-January 1. There were no bad-weather warnings for Indian fishermen in the region through this period.

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Local fishermen said they had not seen the fire on December 31— raising the prospect that the incident may have occurred in international waters, some distance from the thousands of Indian and Pakistani fishing boats in the area.

“I’ve been talking to our people in the area”, said Narsibhai Jungi Jadeja, the head of the Porbandar fishing boat owners’ association, “and everyone insists they didn’t see a thing. That surprises me, because a fire at night would be visible many nautical miles away”.

“I just hope the government clears up the mystery over this, because if any Pakistani fishermen have been killed, the Pakistan navy will take vengeance on us,” he said.


Saeed Baloch, the head of the Pakistan Fisherfolk Forum, said he was investigating the identity of the destroyed boat, but had no immediate details. “Hundreds of people go out to sea every day, and it is impossible for us to keep track of all of them. I just hope some poor people trying to make a living have not been killed,” he said.
 
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Pakistan boat trail allegedly linked to Karachi-based drug mafia | The Indian Express

Investigators in Karachi have identified the fishing boat destroyed on New Year’s Eve during an Indian Coast Guard operation as a vessel allegedly linked to a drug mafia based in Pakistan, highly-placed police sources said.

The sources told The Indian Express that the 25-foot vessel, named Qalandar, was captained by Yaqboob Baloch, a resident of the gang war-torn Lyari town in Karachi. They said that Pakistani counter-narcotics investigators believe the boat often carried contraband for the Balochistan-based drug cartel of Mir Yakub Bizenjo, a fugitive named by the US in 2009 as a leading player in the trans-border trade of narcotics.

When contacted, captain Baloch’s mother, Ayesha Bibi, told The Indian Express that she had heard “rumours” of the destruction of her son’s boat after it was intercepted by the Indian Coast Guard. She added, however, that she had received no information that her son had been killed. - See more at: Pakistan boat trail allegedly linked to Karachi-based drug mafia | The Indian Express

The vessel was Pakistani after all :D
 
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Pakistan boat trail allegedly linked to Karachi-based drug mafia | The Indian Express

Investigators in Karachi have identified the fishing boat destroyed on New Year’s Eve during an Indian Coast Guard operation as a vessel allegedly linked to a drug mafia based in Pakistan, highly-placed police sources said.

The sources told The Indian Express that the 25-foot vessel, named Qalandar, was captained by Yaqboob Baloch, a resident of the gang war-torn Lyari town in Karachi. They said that Pakistani counter-narcotics investigators believe the boat often carried contraband for the Balochistan-based drug cartel of Mir Yakub Bizenjo, a fugitive named by the US in 2009 as a leading player in the trans-border trade of narcotics.

When contacted, captain Baloch’s mother, Ayesha Bibi, told The Indian Express that she had heard “rumours” of the destruction of her son’s boat after it was intercepted by the Indian Coast Guard. She added, however, that she had received no information that her son had been killed. - See more at: Pakistan boat trail allegedly linked to Karachi-based drug mafia | The Indian Express

The vessel was Pakistani after all :D

How often do the drug mafia blow themselves up, which is what the Indians said happened in this case?
 
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