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Yes this is true...

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And I have stated t many a times----pak generals and politicians did not understand that part----when the americans let Osama escape to Pakistan----. Pakistan should have killed him then and there and appealed to the American public for better relations and support----.

Pakistani generas totally fcuked up---they had no understanding of the American setup----. If the American public is on your side----you got the American govt by the ballz.
 
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Hi,

And I have stated t many a times----pak generals and politicians did not understand that part----when the americans let Osama escape to Pakistan----. Pakistan should have killed him then and there and appealed to the American public for better relations and support----.

Pakistani generas totally fcuked up---they had no understanding of the American setup----. If the American public is on your side----you got the American govt by the ballz.
There is a one brief moment either you win or you loose we always loose because our Generals have a false ego and politicians have no vision...in battle there is a hammer wedge policy you block enemy way of retreat and give thrust from other side with you force but US deliberately avoided it by not deploying troops in areas bordering Pakistan just pulling Pakistan into war...
 
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There is a one brief moment either you win or you loose we always loose because our Generals have a false ego and politicians have no vision...in battle there is a hammer wedge policy you block enemy way of retreat and give thrust from other side with you force but US deliberately avoided it by not deploying troops in areas bordering Pakistan just pulling Pakistan into war...

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U S had no intention of drawing Pakistan into war----. The problem is that the U S never deployed troops on the other side of the border in Afghanistan---. So---if Pakistani forces attacked the terrs would escape into afg n the other side of fata.

Actually in=t was due to rugged conditions that even the mighty U S could not afford to deploy in that region----every mountain is 8--10---12000 ft high----every valley is 2---3---4000 feet deep no way to go in except by air ---soldiers could not be supplied ammo----bad weather---evergreen high altitude forests providing excellent places for the enemy t hide---.

OTOH---the afghans and al Qaeda travelled mountain old paths---there were ammunition cave dumps that they stored weapons and ammo for the last 30 years-----.

In Afghanistan---the American forces were just way over their heads----they just did not want to admit at how bad they had fcuked up in analyzing the situation.

They imagined that Afghanistan would be like Iraq in GW1---they did not realize----that in AFG---there is an after life after the conquest---and that is when the U S soldiers get into real combat that they did not expect.
 
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I think this thread is about PAF. not of American Wars:offtopic:
 
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America will be remembered in history as a science superpower but a bungling military mess with poor campaigns and recruitment of incapable soliders.

They throw in ethnic kids and bribe them with a college education to go fight in wars and with all that firepower they are unable to deliver victories. Rubbish scared little boys who can't fight and hide behind airforce.

Poor poor poor. They are no Romans.

Our military campaigns are designed to achieve our objectives and to keep our interests intact. You can say all you want, but the US military has been protecting the US interests for over a 100 year now. Your opinion really counts here.
Which "ethnic" kids and bribes? Just like China, the UK, Pakistan or India, soldiers do get good salary and benefit. These same soldiers equipped with superior training and education, become leaders across different organizations after leaving the military. They are the CEO's, VP's, Professors and Businessmen post their military career.

Lol, try not to get into a fight with one of our marines, you may be shocked at how quickly you might become totally disabled. Hiding behind airforce is not a bad thing, our air power is superior to everyone on the planet earth, that's a strategy, ensures results and safe guards our own men. People with your mentality, just jump in like stupids without a proper strategy and write these posts without ever having a real life experience being in a war zone.



And you guys have derailed the thread to its limits. If you want to open a thread on US military, do so and I'll debate with you there. Let's focus on the thread's topic.
 
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Stop smoking that 3rd grade Mexican stuff,that was Allah u Akbar that fought soviets and did Taliban submitted them to NATO.no.. death and destruction is part of life and calling yourself civilized when your nation dropped two A-bombs on major civilian cities in Japan,killed million of Red Indians and Africans then still you are civilized....lol joke of history

You forgot to mention one thing i.e. they occupied the North America and now claim that its their land.
 
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Our military campaigns are designed to achieve our objectives and to keep our interests intact. You can say all you want, but the US military has been protecting the US interests for over a 100 year now. Your opinion really counts here.
Which "ethnic" kids and bribes? Just like China, the UK, Pakistan or India, soldiers do get good salary and benefit. These same soldiers equipped with superior training and education, become leaders across different organizations after leaving the military. They are the CEO's, VP's, Professors and Businessmen post their military career.

Lol, try not to get into a fight with one of our marines, you may be shocked at how quickly you might become totally disabled. Hiding behind airforce is not a bad thing, our air power is superior to everyone on the planet earth, that's a strategy, ensures results and safe guards our own men. People with your mentality, just jump in like stupids without a proper strategy and write these posts without ever having a real life experience being in a war zone.



And you guys have derailed the thread to its limits. If you want to open a thread on US military, do so and I'll debate with you there. Let's focus on the thread's topic.
There is one point on which I agree with you. Today US army is one of the best trained and equipped in the world.
 
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As long as threat is not airborne

Yeah, like Su-30MKIs who tried to intrude Pakistan Air Space and were intercepted right away by PAF fighter jets?

Or hundreds of jets that were blown into pieces by PAF pilots flying Sabres etc.

Stop embarrassing yourself, dude.

PAF is fully capable of fighting an intense, short war with neighboring hostile states.

Yes, if the war goes to 6 months or a year...then we'll have a problem.

But for a short, intense conflict...PAF's pretty ready and well-prepared.

In case of any surgical strike from India, PAF will launch multiple strikes back on India.

Whether on "air borne" threats or "land" based threats...
 
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PAF is prepared and well trained = What else is your ACM suppose to say.

1. that 2/3rds of PAF combat fleet is obsolete.
2. that F16 could be sanctioned in a war with india by USA
3. that PAF needs more modern western fighters but has no funds to buy them
4. that PAF is currently outnumbered by 3-1 in 4TH gen fighters by the Indians.
5. that PAFs SAM & ABM capability is modest or even worse compared to india,s

get realistic.

USA indo pak war simulations predict PAF lasting 7-10 days in a full blown war before the losses = PAF can no longer effect the conflict.

Once the fleet of 70 F16s are destroyed to around 20 pl;anes PAF will fall quickly
 
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PAF is prepared and well trained = What else is your ACM suppose to say.

1. that 2/3rds of PAF combat fleet is obsolete.
2. that F16 could be sanctioned in a war with india by USA
3. that PAF needs more modern western fighters but has no funds to buy them
4. that PAF is currently outnumbered by 3-1 in 4TH gen fighters by the Indians.
5. that PAFs SAM & ABM capability is modest or even worse compared to india,s

get realistic.

USA indo pak war simulations predict PAF lasting 7-10 days in a full blown war before the losses = PAF can no longer effect the conflict.

Once the fleet of 70 F16s are destroyed to around 20 pl;anes PAF will fall quickly


U have clearly no idea and no value for strategy at all have you ever read ruse or not ? 70 f16's in defensive role can do wonders. Other than that jf17's are coming and you sure not know the secret planes of 65 and kargil war in PAF fleet
 
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