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PAF F16-Blk70 possibly coming - TO BE CONFIRMED

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winning a war without socio eco independence is a difficult road one for which people pay very dear price.
after all socia economic indep. was one of the reason behind two nation theory

whats the point of having the country when you cant fulfill its purpose
people were paying the price in the form of british slavery now they are paying price to our local lords.
when people feel liberated and have choices in terms education and jobs country grows and secures itself, weapons dont win wars, nations do
 
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There is possibility that India will get both S-400 and F-35 but may station them far away from each other.
Hell has a better shot of freezing over than that happening.

The only reason why the US was offering India the (state-of the-art) F-21 was because it had certain similarities as the F-35.

But you can't be serious if you think that the US is gonna roll on the idea of India having both the S-400 & the F-35.

The US hasn't even offered them the F-35 to begin with. That is just speculation of various Think Tanks assuming that the US may take that route. Chances are slim-to-none.

The F-35 may be offered someday, 10-15 years by now. But, by then there's always the possibility that everyone (including PAF) will be operating Stealth Tech.

If the recent US/Turkey conflict has taught us one thing is that Nations have finally started to say 'No' to the United States.

India will order further Rafales that are just as good as the F-21/F-16 & get the S-400. Win-Win for them.

The only hurdle India now has to deal with is the CAATSA Act which will require diplomacy on a high level.
 
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same mindset led us into afghan conflict, yes we do have problems at our borders im not saying that but the direction we have taken or we have always taken has always led to our masses being ignorant and budget deficits if thats the choice they are gonna make, very sad to see...


in the days of USSR every country in west was under the threat of soviet invasion they played wisely and made choices which helped their nation...

with correct decision we can fix our economy say in 3 to 5 years then we can buy whatver we want from who ever we want not just US..this US is not going to help us, it is here to enslave us
 
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Lets see but I am completely skeptical of this report. Pak has much more challenges on the economic front with the noose of circular debt. Get that house in order first then health, education.

I would wait until the Chicks actually hatch. Right now the chicken hasnt laid the eggs, we’ve just been told it will.
Knowing the US, they will agree to everything but then at last minute yank the carpet under the feet.
As noted before I am highly skeptical of such a report; Modi will make many trips to US to break it. They have a lot of sway on Congress.
 
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USA approved sale of F16 Block 70 for Bulgaria in a deal worth $1.6 billion.
So for PAF to get 1 squadron the price would be around $3.2 billion, not
worth it.

PAF better stick with JF 17 Block 3 and Azm project, we don't need more sanction
prone fighter jets.
 
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:cheesy: I hope you don’t want the nuke to detonate as soon as it is released from the jet.So you need correct timing. I think the jets electronics play a part in that unless the nuke measures altitude itself. By the way Americans don’t Allow nukes to be carried on our f16s anyway....
At some point there was a problem with US on some modifications to F16 was it related to this delivery system?
 
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PAF better stick with JF 17 Block 3 and Azm project, we don't need more sanction prone fighter jets.
First off, the JF-17 Block III is no F-16 Block 70/72 - so we need not go into that debate.

The IAF may not like the F-16, but they certainly respect & fear it. It is a battle proven jet Worldwide & still going strong after all these years with various upgrades.

The JF-17 has seen the battle ground (Air-to-Air combat) once in a period of a decade. And there are those who contest if it actually shot down an enemy aircraft. Its debatable what the enemy thinks of the JF-17 post 27th Feb.

If one (PAF Pilot) had to be brutally honest, 10/10 Pilots would choose the F-16 Falcon. On a good day, 9/10.

The F-16 may be smaller than the F-15, F-14 & the Su-30 - but its a lot bigger, carries more ammo, is a lot fast than the JF-17 right now.

Yeah, everyone fears the 'Sanctions' bit, but we need a lotta fire power because the IAF is building up.

And...if someone is willing to cover the cost for the F-16's, then sanctions shouldn't be an issue. We can use our funds to boost the JF-17 Block III & B-variant in numbers...
 
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Why do we need Chinese having access to enable something to carry nukes?

Basically Pak jets needed new wiring. Now, aircraft our outdated as a delivery (free fall) mechanism. At that time, the idea was the jet will fly in, go on a steep climb and drop the bomb, and while the bomb drops, scoot out of there, ASAP.

Now, for this to work, you need to take care of the EMP from the nuke, otherwise the electronics on your aircraft will be fried. this is particularly true for the control wiring. So, you need to take out the regular wiring and put in very heavy and well-protected wiring.

This was done by Pak to certain of its aircraft. Which ones is still a state secret. As far as I know, this was done in Pakistan by Pak engineers. There is no great magic to it, just a basic understanding of the science behind the issue.
 
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USA approved sale of F16 Block 70 for Bulgaria in a deal worth $1.6 billion.
So for PAF to get 1 squadron the price would be around $3.2 billion, not
worth it.

PAF better stick with JF 17 Block 3 and Azm project, we don't need more sanction
prone fighter jets.
We already did the calculation and it will be roughly 6 billion for 24 new and 46 upgrade kits. These would bridge the gap till 5th gen assets arrive and would be enough to neutralise any assets India might obtain.
 
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We already did the calculation and it will be roughly 6 billion for 24 new and 46 upgrade kits. These would bridge the gap till 5th gen assets arrive and would be enough to neutralise any assets India might obtain.

Is the PAF going for 24 new F16's and 46 upgrade kits?
 
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This guy is on the height of being delusion and living in la la land :rofl:


Am not delusional like you... be it BJP or anyother party in the power... they can't hide such things.. it will be political suicide and they need to address the parliament..
 
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