PAF CAS confirmed the SU-30MKI kill in addition to MiG-21 Bison - Alan Warnes

[TheDarkKnight]

Well this is not getting better now for our friends:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...al/?outputType=comment&utm_term=.d1333c39489f

 

[Whirling_dervesh]

Wait a minute as . Undecided.

• Balakot was not hit but then again, 300+ were killed. Indian Media Mistake.
• BJP says no casualties were intended hence, no kill but delivered the message. Minister Mistake.
• IAF did not reach Balakot but SOW launched due to wind. Nature Mistake.
• Spice-2000 is an AI bomb, goes in without crater damage & eliminate targets. Alleged Camp Mistake.
• Spice 2000 is not a Bomb but a Kit. Professionals Mistake.
• Initial provided Balakot SAT images proven fake/stolen. Google Earth etc Mistake.
• Indian FM relies on SAT images on Social Media, proven wrong/old. Social Media Mistake.
• PAF retaliated at Six Points inside IoK. Israeli Defence Equipment Mistake.
• India doesn't have Rafale to counter PAF. France Mistake.
• MI-17V5 was hit by Israeli SAM.. Israeli Mistake.
• MI-17V5 pilot did not follow SOP claimed six lives. Pilot Mistake.
• Abhinandan did not follow SOP & disobeyed direct orders. Abhinandan Mistake.
• All Indian AWACs were in shift change/Turn around/Change over/Tarmac. AWACs mistake.
• No AWACs but images are available, proven to be doctored. Photo Shop Mistake.
• An AMRAAM Piece is found & not the F-16 wreckage/loss/even a single bolt. PAF Mistake.
• Int'l Observers confirms PAF F-16 fleet count/all accounted for. US, Pentagon, Source Mistake.
• Sweden provided SAAB AW&EC birds. Sweden Mistake.
• F-16 were used. US Mistake.
• SU MKI can dodge 6 AMRAAMs but did not take a single shot. Russian Mistake.
• SU-30 MKI crashed on the same time/day & claimed to be Tech Failure. Russian Mistake.
• Abhinandan did not fire single missile. PAF or Russia Mistake.
• Alan Warnes interviewed CAS, provided with Proof. Alan Warnes mistake.

See India has nothing to do with this all as it is always others mistake. And if Modi does it again, will be beaten Black & Blue again like this. The said "If" has nothing to do with the fact rather Modi's own game killing own Military for Election. IoK & youth rise is what Indian Army sowed for.

Post of the year candidate [emoji108]

 

[TheTallGuy]

The Way things are unraveling SU-30MKI loss confirmation - No F-16 loss confirmation - one or possibly two crew in Pakistani Hands (one dead one alive or one dead only) IAF knows this what would be going for the pilots and ground crew...what is happening to moral of IAF as whole...

Again I am afraid we are to witness sooner then latter if Nazi Modi is winning for sure - Then a defection from IAF. which this Nazi Modi will make a reason to attack Pakistan as pretext ...

 

[SrNair]

Wait a minute as . Undecided.

• Balakot was not hit but then again, 300+ were killed. Indian Media Mistake.
• BJP says no casualties were intended hence, no kill but delivered the message. Minister Mistake.
• IAF did not reach Balakot but SOW launched due to wind. Nature Mistake.
• Spice-2000 is an AI bomb, goes in without crater damage & eliminate targets. Alleged Camp Mistake.
• Spice 2000 is not a Bomb but a Kit. Professionals Mistake.
• Initial provided Balakot SAT images proven fake/stolen. Google Earth etc Mistake.
• Indian FM relies on SAT images on Social Media, proven wrong/old. Social Media Mistake.
• PAF retaliated at Six Points inside IoK. Israeli Defence Equipment Mistake.
• India doesn't have Rafale to counter PAF. France Mistake.
• MI-17V5 was hit by Israeli SAM.. Israeli Mistake.
• MI-17V5 pilot did not follow SOP claimed six lives. Pilot Mistake.
• Abhinandan did not follow SOP & disobeyed direct orders. Abhinandan Mistake.
• All Indian AWACs were in shift change/Turn around/Change over/Tarmac. AWACs mistake.
• No AWACs but images are available, proven to be doctored. Photo Shop Mistake.
• An AMRAAM Piece is found & not the F-16 wreckage/loss/even a single bolt. PAF Mistake.
• Int'l Observers confirms PAF F-16 fleet count/all accounted for. US, Pentagon, Source Mistake.
• Sweden provided SAAB AW&EC birds. Sweden Mistake.
• F-16 were used. US Mistake.
• SU MKI can dodge 6 AMRAAMs but did not take a single shot. Russian Mistake.
• SU-30 MKI crashed on the same time/day & claimed to be Tech Failure. Russian Mistake.
• Abhinandan did not fire single missile. PAF or Russia Mistake.
• Alan Warnes interviewed CAS, provided with Proof. Alan Warnes mistake.

See India has nothing to do with this all as it is always others mistake. And if Modi does it again, will be beaten Black & Blue again like this. The said "If" has nothing to do with the fact rather Modi's own game killing own Military for Election. IoK & youth rise is what Indian Army sowed for.

Then and now Indian officials only have one stand irrespective whatever the medias,which is not a authority anyways.
And they still remain in that stand .

Mi heli incident CoI still going on and at glance itvwas tech glitch and now investigating a SAM launch .
It will take time to complete investigation.

Dont need to explain much about Balakot .
One and half month shut down interval and then the restricted tour speaks for itself .
Dignitaories wont speak much because they dont want to humilate their host through simple questions
We already knows that would be your responsec.
2016 attack was small.
So photo ops took after few days .
This was an airstrike so took took one and half month.

PM Modi strict order no civilian no military casualities .

There is nothing beaten black and blue here .
And you knows it more than us .
The much concerned cry of Aprilc16 to 20 says a lot .
Before Feb 26 boasting was noone cross border then Balakot happened .
Dont need to think much about it .

Modi was just delivering the promise ge made .

 

[ziaulislam]

Then and now Indian officials only have one stand irrespective whatever the medias,which is not a authority anyways.
And they still remain in that stand .

Mi heli incident CoI still going on and at glance itvwas tech glitch and now investigating a SAM launch .
It will take time to complete investigation.

Dont need to explain much about Balakot .
One and half month shut down interval and then the restricted tour speaks for itself .
Dignitaories wont speak much because they dont want to humilate their host through simple questions
We already knows that would be your responsec.
2016 attack was small.
So photo ops took after few days .
This was an airstrike so took took one and half month.

PM Modi strict order no civilian no military casualities .

There is nothing beaten black and blue here .
And you knows it more than us .
The much concerned cry of Aprilc16 to 20 says a lot .
Before Feb 26 boasting was noone cross border then Balakot happened .
Dont need to think much about it .

Modi was just delivering the promise ge made .

As neutral observer modi failed as didnt escalate ..he should have escalated ..

1. missing all targets in balakot(per western observers) and seeing a response from Pakistan as well as escalation
2. losing a mig21 and mi17
3. and last but not the least getting the f16 debunked by western observers simply shows it was a total failure ..

Modi should have simply escalated and punish Pakistan ..i wonder why he didnt ? Whats thought on Indian side why did he chickened out?

Forget about su30 its irrelevant

Infact losing a mig21 mi17 or even claiming a f16 shot down or balakot strikes are all irrelevant ..the only relevant thing is that india chickened out and didnt escalate while Pakistan was ready to escalate!

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Its nearly impossible to show these Indians a mirror. They are living in their own world where as rest of the world in another. Freaken losers and A grade liars.

 

[Thorough Pro]

The same smelly didn't have the guts to ask IAF to provide the proof for the F16 claim

I told you the Cowkidar are coming! Mooo

Actually world got an eye full of the Indian shamelessness and an earful of the Indian lies.
And what about the second half regarding F16 claim?

Lol .
Their Air chief confirmed ,so that is right ?
So what about the second half ?
Bodies ,fuselage anything ?

Radar screen shot or probably the photo of radar screen was already showed as proof by IAF .
But PAF is an official word .


Fact is world already got the glimpse of the pathetic ego problem of some people.

 

[ziaulislam]

Its nearly impossible to show these Indians a mirror. They are living in their own world where as rest of the world in another. Freaken losers and A grade liars.

Surpringly even the well educated intellectuals have no guts to ask a simple question ..i mean how come they believe something like balakot strikes or f16 shot down...it is fascinating to see this behavior ...

 

[ziaulislam]

Odd thing is that it doesnt signify india loss if they lost all these plans..the fact they didnt escalates does it

It's odd why everyone is fixated on the losses and not pointing which is obvious ? I.e why did india didnt respond?

 

[tkmd]

Then and now Indian officials only have one stand irrespective whatever the medias,which is not a authority anyways.
And they still remain in that stand .

Mi heli incident CoI still going on and at glance itvwas tech glitch and now investigating a SAM launch .
It will take time to complete investigation.

Dont need to explain much about Balakot .
One and half month shut down interval and then the restricted tour speaks for itself .
Dignitaories wont speak much because they dont want to humilate their host through simple questions
We already knows that would be your responsec.
2016 attack was small.
So photo ops took after few days .
This was an airstrike so took took one and half month.

PM Modi strict order no civilian no military casualities .

There is nothing beaten black and blue here .
And you knows it more than us .
The much concerned cry of Aprilc16 to 20 says a lot .
Before Feb 26 boasting was noone cross border then Balakot happened .
Dont need to think much about it .

Modi was just delivering the promise ge made .

Yes we know you mallus have one stand...what else can you say other than we smashed Pakistan? If it actually was admitted that you got your ghaand kicked and then didn't have the resolve/will/preparedness to control the escalation ladder your monkey PM would be back in gujarat eating dhokla rt now.

We don't need to explain anything to you. You came, you ran, you got shot down. Come back soon and have the same outcome.

 

[Mace]

Odd thing is that it doesnt signify india loss if they lost all these plans..the fact they didnt escalates does it

It's odd why everyone is fixated on the losses and not pointing which is obvious ? I.e why did india didnt respond?

You are level headed.

First and foremost, do you believe there was a Jaish training camp there? If yes, then India made its point. Rest just noise.

I do not believe there was a escalation plan from GOI. Clearly IAF/IA’s restraint and body language suggests they were ordered to deescalate.

 

[ziaulislam]

You are level headed.

First and foremost, do you believe there was a Jaish training camp there? If yes, then India made its point. Rest just noise.

I do not believe there was a escalation plan from GOI. Clearly IAF/IA’s restraint and body language suggests they were ordered to deescalate.

India believes, world is inbetween (bbc hindi ) and Pakistanis dont believe it..
But how is rest of it noise ?
India attacked Pakistan and chickened out later..

pointing that india may not do it again..so no detereance was acheived whatsoever ..is this so difficult

 

[Microsoft]

First and foremost, do you believe there was a Jaish training camp there? If yes, then India made its point. Rest just noise.

The consensus seems to be there used to be a camp there over a year ago. The only point India made is they have shitty intelligence as well as shitty air force capability.

 

[crankthatskunk]

And you are sitting next to him warning him about his mistake

He lived to tell the tales.
Super hero of Gowmata land.

 

[Mace]

India believes, world is inbetween (bbc hindi ) and Pakistanis dont believe it..
But how is rest of it noise ?
India attacked Pakistan and chickened out later..

pointing that india may not do it again..so no detereance was acheived whatsoever ..is this so difficult

India bombs Balakot.
Sushma in China announces immediate deescalation.
ISPR announces because of bad weather none can visit the site on the day of bombing.
ISPR arranges a tour after more than a month with cute little kids reading Quran.
Only gullible people will believe nothing happened in Balakot.
On this count IAF/GOI is also guilty of not sharing images.

On that day 2 parachutes went down from one aircraft. It has been discussed in this forum. I believe it is most likely a F16D. How many F16Ds PAF has? 8? Just line them up and that will shut up every one up including Indian def minister.

The consensus seems to be there used to be a camp there over a year ago. The only point India made is they have shitty intelligence as well as shitty air force capability.

Even if we take your consensus word of one year ago, yes Pak is guilty of training jihadists. India has the right to retaliate.