Pacific Islanders snub China by rejecting security pact

[kingQamaR]

Do you think the Chinese base in Djibouti has to do with an invasion? This has more to do with the Chinese military being denied staging sites in an area near Australia and New Zealand.

I'm sure you wouldn't want Israel to sign some Security pact with Nepal. That doesn't mean they are going to invade them...however that's puts the potential Israeli military only 800km from your capital.

Because the US Regime thinks China will also do what they themselves usually do, create a military base in Islands. That still may not be problem with the US Regime, but the US Regime thinks it will hinder their ability to enforce their illegal hegemony on the regional countries.

 

[Han Patriot]

The security pact was always with just Solomon. Trade pacts, real ones, not the symbolic zero substance one like ipef, takes yrs to negotiate, let alone a security pact with multiple countries.

The west simply hyped it up knowing it wont be signed now just to then say it's a setback.
That's why I always say nobody can turn the west into indians like China can. lol


That's just ur personal experience. Nobody, certainly not Chinese, have respect for a person like u.

Exactly, Solomon Island was the only one asking us for security assistance, the others were just trade and related deals. I don't even know what was it we lost? The article just said we lost, lost what exactly.

Because the US Regime thinks China will also do what they themselves usually do, create a military base in Islands. That still may not be problem with the US Regime, but the US Regime thinks it will hinder their ability to enforce their illegal hegemony on the regional countries.

Numb numb doesn't realise why Solomon wanted us there. AUSTRALIA was threatening to invade Solomon Islands. Lol

 

[kingQamaR]

The US has encircled China with military bases, and the US and Australia regimes are warning the Solomon Islands against allowing China to build a military base there. Why is it important to only allow the US to build military bases in the Pacific?

 

[patero]

The US has encircled China with military bases, and the US and Australia regimes are warning the Solomon Islands against allowing China to build a military base there. Why is it important to only allow the US to build military bases in the Pacific?

First of all the word regime in a political context isn't really applied to western liberal democracies, it refers to autocratic governments, one party states and dictatorships. So it's inaccurate to refer to an Australian or US administration (executive branch of government) as a regime.

As for why the US and it's allies in the region are opposed to Chinese military expansion in the region: China is an openly hostile and belligerent actor towards the existing political order in the pacific and beyond. There are geopolitical and strategic implications for that existing order if China can forward deploy naval assets in the area, PLAN power projection in the area threatens important transit lanes.

 

[KampfAlwin]

Nope, simple experience by observation. Zero respect for nature or culture

I agree, euroids have 0 respect for nature and culture.

European fishing fleets accused of illegally netting tuna in Indian Ocean

Reports handed to EU claim vessels likely to have entered coastal states’ waters where stocks are dwindling

www.theguardian.com

 

[redtom]

First of all the word regime in a political context isn't really applied to western liberal democracies, it refers to autocratic governments, one party states and dictatorships. So it's inaccurate to refer to an Australian or US administration (executive branch of government) as a regime.

As for why the US and it's allies in the region are opposed to Chinese military expansion in the region: China is an openly hostile and belligerent actor towards the existing political order in the pacific and beyond. There are geopolitical and strategic implications for that existing order if China can forward deploy naval assets in the area, PLAN power projection in the area threatens important transit lanes.

Humans and children also refer specifically to white people. Afghan children and Muslims are not considered human in Australian culture any more than aboriginal Australians are.

Of course, we understand that good nouns refer specifically to white people and bad nouns refer specifically to other ethnic groups, otherwise, what do you think we're against?

 

[jhungary]

Several of the island nations China courted are New Zealand dependancies. Cook Islanders have New Zealand citizenship and more than half of their population lives in the New Zealand mainland. It's a similar situation with Nuie. They are heavily dependant on foreign aid from NZ and use our currency. Culturally, economically and diplomatically they are too closely aligned with NZ to completely shift their allegiance to China.

Other island nations such as Samoa, Fiji and Tonga are closely aligned with NZ and Australia, and half of Samoa (american Samoa) is a US dependancy. US has defence treaties with most of the nations China attempted to coerce.

China overplayed it's hand with this attempt to undermine New Zealand, Australian, UK and US sovereignty in the region. It asked for far too much. Throwing a few bribes around didn't work, it doesn't compensate for basically selling their soveriegnty and freedom for Chinese autocracy.

Said this on the solomon island thread.

Solomon Island signed that pact is because their PM is on the way out (He is very unpopular by the way) this September and he wanted to get as he step off and us Aussie and you Kiwi wouldn't want to pay..

The problem Pacific Island is facing is not invasion, but natural disaster (Tsunami and Volcano eruption), in this sense, it make almost zero sense to form security pact with the Chinese, sure, invasion can still wait, Tsunami and Volcano wouldn't they will just did their business and move on, if aid have to totally depend on China to come to rescue, their island probably sank before any aid arrive from China...

Humans and children also refer specifically to white people. Afghan children and Muslims are not considered human in Australian culture any more than aboriginal Australians are.

Of course, we understand that good nouns refer specifically to white people and bad nouns refer specifically to other ethnic groups, otherwise, what do you think we're against?

You do know at least 25% of Afghan is white, let me give you a hint, the word "Caucasian" came from the region Caucasus (precisely Caucasus Mountain), right?? And do you know how close between Afghanistan and Caucasus?

 

[northeast]

First of all the word regime in a political context isn't really applied to western liberal democracies, it refers to autocratic governments, one party states and dictatorships. So it's inaccurate to refer to an Australian or US administration (executive branch of government) as a regime.

As for why the US and it's allies in the region are opposed to Chinese military expansion in the region: China is an openly hostile and belligerent actor towards the existing political order in the pacific and beyond. There are geopolitical and strategic implications for that existing order if China can forward deploy naval assets in the area, PLAN power projection in the area threatens important transit lanes.

World order need to be backed by power. When power balance changes,the order changes accordingly. It's just nature. You'll learn to accept it anyway.

 

[Apollon]

On the contrary, I see far more from the west that has repeatedly shown absolute disrespect for other culture, disdain of the cultural different and quick to judge and lecture others based on its own cultural norm.

Lecture is nice. Some chinese tried to burn down a forest in new caledonia, which was not seen very positive there. Chinese tourists in general have very bad reputation evrywhere.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Because the US Regime thinks China will also do what they themselves usually do, create a military base in Islands. That still may not be problem with the US Regime, but the US Regime thinks it will hinder their ability to enforce their illegal hegemony on the regional countries.

What "illegal US hegemony" in this area are you talking about?

Please state one example or stop digging phrases out of your @ss just for the sake of posting a useless reply.

 

[kingQamaR]

What "illegal US hegemony" in this area are you talking about?

Please state one example or stop digging phrases out of your @ss just for the sake of posting a useless reply.

They are?

Let me check..

Oh wait, I don't see china in any of the islands in pacific ocean. I may be wrong here..

But wait, i see a lot of American presence there..***

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

But wait, i see a lot of American presence there..***

oh? What illegal presence there do you see?

Maybe you see a lot of illegal Atlantis civilization presence there too.

Why don't you stop making stuff up.

 

[kingQamaR]

oh? What illegal presence there do you see?

Maybe you see a lot of illegal Atlantis civilization presence there too.

Why don't you stop making stuff up.

You'reasking the wrong question. Why is the US meddling in the Pacific Islands?

China is a peaceful country, not trying to conquer any island Pacific or anywhere else

 

[Zsari]

Lecture is nice. Some chinese tried to burn down a forest in new caledonia, which was not seen very positive there. Chinese tourists in general have very bad reputation

What Chinese tourists in New Caledonia? China is merely used as the bogeyman by the French against the independence seekers in their colony. It is exactly what propaganda is.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

You'reasking the wrong question. Why is the US meddling in the Pacific Islands?

No, I'm asking the correct question.

Why did you say "but the US Regime thinks it will hinder their ability to enforce their illegal hegemony on the regional countries."?

What part my question are you simply not comprehending?

I ask you it and for some reason your mind can't figure it out...you just dodge and dodge and dodge and dodge and dodge and dodge and dodge and dodge and dodge and dodge and dodge and dodge and dodge and dodge and dodge and dodge and dodge and dodge and dodge...


I think the answer is because your eager little fingers work a lot faster than your brain. To you posting garbage as quickly as possible is more important than posting facts.