Over 600,000 Afghans came to Pakistan since Taliban takeover

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Over 600,000 Afghans came to Pakistan since Taliban takeover​

UNHCR spokesman says besides new arrivals Pakistan hosts 1.3m Afghan refugees who hold Proof of Registration Cards

Anadolu Agency
September 13, 2023

Afghan refugees wait at the UNHCR registration centre in Peshawar on June 23, 2016. PHOTO: AFP

ISLAMABAD: Over 600,000 Afghan have arrived in Pakistan in the two years since the Taliban retook control of Afghanistan in 2021.
According to official government estimates, 600,000 Afghans seeking asylum have arrived in the country since the Taliban returned to power, UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) spokesman Qaiser Khan Afridi told Anadolu Agency on Wednesday.

"In addition to the new arrival, Pakistan hosts 1.3 million Afghan refugees who are holding the Proof of Registration Cards issued by the government,” Afridi said.

However, over the last two years, over 16,000 Afghans have returned to Afghanistan through the UNHCR-facilitated voluntary repatriation program, he added.

In response to a question about Afghan refugees who are legally living in the country and whose refugee registration cards expired in June of this year, he stated that they are in contact with local authorities to extend them.

In 2017, the government issued a one-time Afghanistan Citizen Card (ACC) to approximately 880,000 refugees which expired this year.

"UNHCR is in talks with Pakistani authorities about extending the registration cards of Afghan refugees," Afridi said, adding that they are hopeful for a positive outcome on this issue.

According to Afridi, a positive decision from the authorities will provide relief to Afghan refugees, who are experiencing uncertainty and anxiety due to the expiration of their cards.

Prior to August 20, 2021, Pakistani authorities estimated that 500,000 to 600,000 Afghans lived in the country.

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UNHCR spokesman says besides new arrivals Pakistan hosts 1.3m Afghan refugees who hold Proof of Registration Cards

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[tman786]

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[epebble]

Are the children born to Afghan refugees Pakistanis by birth?

 

[MastanKhan]

Are the children born to Afghan refugees Pakistanis by birth?

Hi,

No---.

 

[Asian.Century]

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[K_Bin_W]

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Oh bhai, they are not going anywhere. Even US cannot control illegal US/Mexico border crossing how can we when we have pashtuns on both side of the border and they are relatives. On top of that there is corruption. So zero chance they will be deported, and even if they are they will be back.

 

[FuturePAF]

Oh bhai, they are not going anywhere. Even US cannot control illegal US/Mexico border crossing how can we when we have pashtuns on both side of the border and they are relatives. On top of that there is corruption. So zero chance they will be deported, and even if they are they will be back.

At the moment the US is working with Mexico to try to deport non-Mexican people in Mexico.

The only way Pakistan can successfully deport afghans back is to work on getting housing developed in Afghanistan for the Afghans to go back to, as part of some international funded project, perhaps part of a deal for mining contracts. Housing contracts, which Pakistani companies can bid for and get a good share in supplying.

For that the Afghans have to work with Pakistan to get the mining going.

European and Turkish investors should especially be trying to get this work, as it would slow down immigration to Europe.

Deportation needs to be done in a way that they have something to go back to and that they want to go back.

What is the current estimate of afghan refugees in Pakistan?

 

[SaadH]

Don't worry in the next five years Afghanistan's per capita GDP will surpass Pakistan's and all Afghan refugees will disappear on their own

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

European and Turkish investors should especially be trying to get this work, as it would slow down immigration to Europe.

Deportation needs to be done in a way that they have something to go back to and that they want to go back.

What is the current estimate of afghan refugees in Pakistan?

People from failed societies always have some excuse to escape. Taliban government is not recognized by any country. There will likely be no funding as long as Taliban refuses basic human rights, especially to women and minorities.

 

[Sliver]

The only way Pakistan can successfully deport afghans back is to work on getting housing developed in Afghanistan for the Afghans to go back to, as part of some international funded project, perhaps part of a deal for mining contracts. Housing contracts, which Pakistani companies can bid for and get a good share in supplying.

European and Turkish investors should especially be trying to get this work, as it would slow down immigration to Europe.

I am really unable to understand this
as per your post:

Europe and turkey investors should fund housing projects in Afghanistan
so Pakistan can get mining contracts,
afghanistan gets houses?

why wont Europe or China simply get those mining contracts and let Afghanistan people gladly migrate to pakistan instead of europe?

also - lets get our mines started first - we can deal with Afghanistan mines in due course.

 

[FuturePAF]

I am really unable to understand this
as per your post:

Europe and turkey investors should fund housing projects in Afghanistan
so Pakistan can get mining contracts,
afghanistan gets houses?

why wont Europe or China simply get those mining contracts and let Afghanistan people gladly migrate to pakistan instead of europe?

also - lets get our mines started first - we can deal with Afghanistan mines in due course.

We (Pakistanis) as the intermediaries for transit of the produce of afghan mines should negotiate terms that require afghans to move back, and get western investors to fund housing projects to help the afghans absorb the refugee population and decrease migration to Europe.

Europe slows down migration, afghans get investment in mining despite their human rights issues, and Pakistan gets to send refugees back.

 

[Sliver]

Isn't it cheaper for Europe to let Pakistan figure out the refugee problem and just import raw materials from elsewhere?
Also, Europe is mostly importing stuff from China/Russia
There isn't really anything so great of value from Afghanistan or Pakistan that Europe needs
Even the textiles that Pakistan produces, have competition from China, bd

 

[FuturePAF]

Isn't it cheaper for Europe to let Pakistan figure out the refugee problem and just import raw materials from elsewhere?
Also, Europe is mostly importing stuff from China/Russia
There isn't really anything so great of value from Afghanistan or Pakistan that Europe needs
Even the textiles that Pakistan produces, have competition from China, bd

Pakistan has been “figuring out” the refugee problem for decades and it has only led to more and more refugees going to Europe.

Textiles are tied to labor cost and raw material inputs. Cheaper Central Asian cotton will make its way to market one way or another once the Trans-Afghan railway is built, so that is a separate issue.

Mining will open up and if Europe hopes to have access to the mines it needs for its industries to switch to the green transition, at competitive prices, considering the coups in Africa, working with the more stable governments in Central Asian should start to look attractive. Especially if deals can be done to buy minerals at a discount.

These central Asian countries have/had 9 million workers in Russia, many who are out of a job, and may also be looking to love to the west.

Why not solve two problems with one strategy? The problem needs to be liked at holistically. Mining contracts can also be a carrot and stick approach to get the afghans to reform their human rights record, in the way Europe does with textile producers.

 

[Sliver]

working with the more stable governments in Central Asian should start to look attractive.

this.
it takes stable govt first to make some contracts for business. mining means lots of people, machines, money and commitments. no engineer will go to afg to work there. and without stable govt, no other country will go there.

first stable govt and then business.

also, lets have a stable govt in Pakistan first?

 

[FuturePAF]

this.
it takes stable govt first to make some contracts for business. mining means lots of people, machines, money and commitments. no engineer will go to afg to work there. and without stable govt, no other country will go there.

first stable govt and then business.

also, lets have a stable govt in Pakistan first?

Indeed stability is the first requirement. The current Afghan government is not liked by the west, but their companies may work with them, if they see some mining efforts working with the Chinese.

But indeed, a stable government in Pakistan and the trans-afghan railway are the key pre-requisites.