Only in India can a Muslim rise to top Shah Faesal’s dig at Pakistan

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IAS officer Shah Faesal took a dig at Pakistan on Tuesday after Rishi Sunak was appointed as the UK’s first Indian-origin Prime Minister. He cited his own journey as a civil services officer in India and said that nowhere else on earth do Muslims enjoy such freedom

“It's possible only in India that a Muslim youngster from Kashmir can go on to top the Indian Civil Service exam, rise to top echelons of the government, then fall apart with the government and still be rescued and taken back by the same government,” he tweeted in a threa

https://twitter.com/x/status/1584822403640983553

“Rishi Saunak's appointment might be a surprise for our neighbours where the Constitution bars non-Muslims from top posts in the Government, but Indian democracy has never discriminated ethnic and religious minorities from the rest,” Faesal tweeted on Tuesday.

“As equal citizens, Indian Muslims enjoy freedoms that are unthinkable in any other so called Islamic country.

Citing the ups and downs in his career as an IAS officer, Faesal said: “My own life-story is about a journey, shoulder to shoulder, with each fellow citizen of this nation of 1.3 Billion people, where I have felt owned, respected, encouraged and at times pampered at every step of the way. That's India.”

“From Maulana Azad to Dr. Manmohan Singh and Dr. Zakir Hussain to HE President Droupadi Murmu, India has always been THE land of equal opportunity and the road to the top is open to all. Won't be wrong if I say I have been to the mountain top and seen it for myself,” he added.

‘Only in India can a Muslim rise to top…’: IAS officer Shah Faesal’s dig at Pakistan

IAS officer Shah Faesal took a dig at Pakistan saying that only in India can a Muslim get freedom. He was referring to the fact that Pakistan bars non-Muslims from top government posts.

www.indiatoday.in

 

[Areesh]

Nice dig by Shah Fasesal

 

[One_Nation]

Good but can he stop the genocide of his fellow Kashmiris?

 

[Maula Jatt]

choti luli mentality of Indians- only way uncle tom can rise is by constantly telling how they are patriots by talking about how they dislike Pak to soothe chothi luli mentality of your average pajeet who dis trust him

 

[xeuss]

IAS officer Shah Faesal took a dig at Pakistan on Tuesday after Rishi Sunak was appointed as the UK’s first Indian-origin Prime Minister. He cited his own journey as a civil services officer in India and said that nowhere else on earth do Muslims enjoy such freedom

“It's possible only in India that a Muslim youngster from Kashmir can go on to top the Indian Civil Service exam, rise to top echelons of the government, then fall apart with the government and still be rescued and taken back by the same government,” he tweeted in a threa

https://twitter.com/x/status/1584822403640983553

“Rishi Saunak's appointment might be a surprise for our neighbours where the Constitution bars non-Muslims from top posts in the Government, but Indian democracy has never discriminated ethnic and religious minorities from the rest,” Faesal tweeted on Tuesday.

“As equal citizens, Indian Muslims enjoy freedoms that are unthinkable in any other so called Islamic country.

Citing the ups and downs in his career as an IAS officer, Faesal said: “My own life-story is about a journey, shoulder to shoulder, with each fellow citizen of this nation of 1.3 Billion people, where I have felt owned, respected, encouraged and at times pampered at every step of the way. That's India.”

“From Maulana Azad to Dr. Manmohan Singh and Dr. Zakir Hussain to HE President Droupadi Murmu, India has always been THE land of equal opportunity and the road to the top is open to all. Won't be wrong if I say I have been to the mountain top and seen it for myself,” he added.

‘Only in India can a Muslim rise to top…’: IAS officer Shah Faesal’s dig at Pakistan

IAS officer Shah Faesal took a dig at Pakistan saying that only in India can a Muslim get freedom. He was referring to the fact that Pakistan bars non-Muslims from top government posts.

www.indiatoday.in

Couple of tweets more like this and Motabhai might let him go abroad for a vacation.

 

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choti luli mentality of Indians- only way uncle tom can rise is by constantly telling how they are patriots by talking about how they dislike Pak to soothe chothi luli mentality of your average pajeet who dis trust him

BS, the IAS remains among the most coveted positions/jobs in India today despite all the multi billion $ corporation jobs out there. It is NOT easy to get in, to say the least. This man made it to the top on merit.

Kashmiri muslims are also doing well, I know a few personally and know of many in all sorts of fields.. from humble craftsmen to traders to big businessmen to doctors, lawyers, to commanding the armed forces, sports, restaurateurs.. you name it.

Meet Kashmiri Hilal Ahmed Rather, India's first pilot to fly Rafale

Hilal was commissioned in Indian Air Force as a fighter pilot on December 17, 1988.Air Commodore Hilal Ahmad Rather is presently India’s Air Attaché to France

www.livemint.com

(not sure if he's done a sortie in the Rafale but was instrumental in getting it done)

Pace sensation Umran Malik

^Ismaili Muslim billionaire Azim Premji (Wipro) .. who would be declared kafir over the fence at yours'

here's one last classic cricket one:

 

[Flight of falcon]

Wow....now stop blaming Muslims for love Jihad and let them marry your women.....

 

[newb3e]

only in India Muslims are butchered for eating and selling beef!

beat that house nigro!

 

[xeuss]

BS, the IAS remains among the most coveted positions/jobs in India today despite all the multi billion $ corporation jobs out there. It is NOT easy to get in, to say the least. This man made it to the top on merit.

Kashmiri muslims are also doing well, I know a few personally and know of many in all sorts of fields.. from humble craftsmen to traders to big businessmen to doctors, lawyers, to commanding the armed forces, sports, restaurateurs.. you name it.

Meet Kashmiri Hilal Ahmed Rather, India's first pilot to fly Rafale

Hilal was commissioned in Indian Air Force as a fighter pilot on December 17, 1988.Air Commodore Hilal Ahmad Rather is presently India’s Air Attaché to France

www.livemint.com

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(not sure if he's done a sortie in the Rafale but was instrumental in getting it done)

Pace sensation Umran Malik

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^Ismaili Muslim billionaire Azim Premji (Wipro) .. who would be declared kafir over the fence at yours'

here's one last classic cricket one:

But you won't let them eat beef, won't let them buy apartments in your fancy societies, call them Pakistanis and katuas.

Those Muslims who succeed in India are truly exceptional persons who have succeeded despite all the odds. They should not be held as representative of the condition of a community, just like Obama should not be held as the barometer that racism does not exist in the US.

 

[Zornix]

Muslims like the one in the OP only represent about 2% if not less of the Muslim community in India, the vast majority are backwards and poor and the Hindu majority is well aware of that. What is it with these upper class urban Muslims acting as if they represent their whole community to please their upper caste Hindu Indian masters? they don't come even close, it reminds me of this article.

To be a Muslim in India​

Whenever India talks about its Muslims, Shahrukh Khan, Aamir Khan or Mohammad Azharduddin are mentioned. This despite the fact that they do not represent a typical Indian Muslim. Still, the few success stories that there are of Muslim bureaucrats, politicians, cricketers and film stars, are projected to the world as Indian secularism in practise. I was able to see things for myself on a recent trip to India.

My interest in exploring the subject of how Muslims fare in India was fuelled by my friends from the fashion industry who visit India on regular basis. And who hold that Muslims don't have a bad deal. If that is true, I thought, why have Pakistan? Why did we fight for a separate country? And why don't we become one again? These were the questions nagging my mind when I set off to celebrate Eid in India. I spent my first few days meeting well-to-do Muslims. From film stars to politicians, most sounded like thoroughly patriotic Indians, once they discovered my origin. I could see why these people were the envy of my friends back home. They were exactly like us, they had the freedom to practise their religion as they saw fit, with the proviso that they had much more freedom and much more fun than we have here in Pakistan. But, I asked myself, are up-market Indian Muslims representative of the majority of Muslims in India? No, they are not, just as we are not representative of our majority here in Pakistan.

Clearly, my friends so enamoured of the liberties Indian Muslims enjoy had never gone past the nightclubs and private parties to meet the dirt poor Muslims of the stinking streets around Delhi's Jama Masjid. I was determined that for me it would be it a true voyage of discovery. First, I went to Jaipur where my rickshaw driver took me to a Muslim locality where my co-religionists had poured in from adjoining areas looking for work. It was here that I heard tale after tale of how Indian Muslims love and cheer Pakistan's cricket team or how Imran Khan and Wasim Akram are bigger heroes for them than Kapil Dev and Tendulkar. I was also told some gory details of how Muslims suffered during and after the Babri Mosque crisis. A few statements were unforgettable. As soon as someone found out that I was from Pakistan, I was told that I had come from the home country: "Aap tau hamaray mulk say aye hain". An old woman whose two daughters and a grandson had married into Hindu families told me, "You (Pakistanis) don't value freedom. You don't know what a blessing it is to live in Muslim societies. At least when your daughter runs away with a boy you are assured that he would be a Muslim. Here we live in constant fear that Muslim girls and boys will marry outside the faith". Having regaled me with her tale of woe, she proceeded to condemn Hrithik Roshan's marriage to a Muslim girl, Suzanne Khan, and was violently opposed to Salman Khan dating Ashwariya Rai. Here was the first difference between the Muslim elites of India and ordinary folk.

My next stop was Lucknow, where my host and I went to participate in a cultural event. In the middle of that event I was whisked away to see the famous sites of Lucknow. Amongst them were the famous Jamia Masjid, A beautiful Imambara next to it and the palace of Wajid Ali Shah. It was on one of these excursions that I met a local Muslim family who were "frightened" of the "hatred" they felt which was building up in India's underbelly against Muslims. "Why is it that every Indian movie or a music video will always feature a Muslim girl and a Hindu boy? Why can't Muslim men be shown dating Hindu girls?" In the past, one of my interlocuters said, Muslim actors had had to change their names to Hindu ones in order to be successful -- Yusuf Khan became Dilip Kumar, Nasim became Madhubala -- and now he said a director could not risk making a film with a Muslim boy and a Hindu girl as hero and heroine respectively. He gave examples of the films that had worked at the box office: "Bombay", "Fizza" and "Zubaida" -- all with Muslim heroines and Hindu heroes.

I was in Delhi for Eid and went to the famous Jamia Masjid for my prayers. It was so like Karachi, it was uncanny. The men were in their tight fitted pajamas, churidars, whereas the women hid colourful finery beneath black burqas. There were open sales of meat and Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan's qawwalis were being played at a deafening pitch. This was the Chandni Chowk area with a strong Muslim population. My non-Muslim hosts called it "mini-Pakistan". Most Muslim families I met there had relatives in Pakistan and a few of them even had the Pakistani flag inside their houses. I wonder if any of Pakistan's minorities could fly the flag of a foreign country, especially India, within their homes?

In Chandni Chowk, I was eagerly met and regaled with the things they liked about my country: Omar Sharif's stage plays and Shahid Afridi thrashing the Indian bowling attack. The serious talk began when I was told about police brutalities upon Muslims during search operations. I was shown scars of wounds on a few young men arrested they said, "for betting on the Pakistan cricket team". Next I visited some Muslim homes which had been burnt down during the Ayodhya crisis. The police had stood by when mobs attacked, they said.

On my last night in India, I decided that I would not go out but sit back and think about all that I had seen. The Muslim elite is protected and pampered as are elites here in Pakistan. They live mostly in the big cities, I could not see that there were any significant number of Muslim landed elites. This, I suppose, is because India implemented a thorough land reform, unlike Pakistan. So those Muslims that have made it good in India have done so my dint of their own hard work. They have been able to rise through the ranks and credit for that must go to the system of education that was available to them.

The Muslims that stayed aloof from the mainstream have become steadily more disenfranchised, steadily more powerless, and poorer. Are they themselves to be blamed for their pitiable state? Or is the Indian state to blame? It is a bit of both. A feeling of discrimination exists amongst a majority of Indian Muslims and the state has not been able to foster confidence in its policies. Equally, Indian Muslims hanker after a glorious past but are not prepared to change their ways to alter their abysmal present. Muslim icons Shabana Azmi and Dilip Kumar advocate that all Muslims educate their children, and plan their families. But their voices don't go far and the underprivileged Muslims of India continue to wallow in poverty, much like the Muslims of Pakistan.

You have to go to India to see why partition happened. But this does not mean that we all have to live in the past. The task for the Muslims of the subcontinent on both sides of the divide remains the same: have fewer children and educate them. And the states of both India and Pakistan have to be impartial arbiters between all their citizens.

 

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But you won't let them eat beef, won't let them buy apartments in your fancy societies, call them Pakistanis and katuas.

Those Muslims who succeed in India are truly exceptional persons who have succeeded despite all the odds. They should not be held as representative of the condition of a community, just like Obama should not be held as the barometer that racism does not exist in the US.

You lot are a thriving community and part of the fabric of India, I've personally never been mean to or discriminated against anyone.

Beef thing is about respecting where you're at, borderline atheist here, will eat anything. I wouldn't expect my lady to dress skimpy or myself to get a drink everywhere in Saudia/Iran/Pakistan etc. It is about having respect for cultural norms.

In India, Hindu women always dress modest and cover their heads with a scarf/dupatta etc when visiting a dargah and so on..

Racism and bigotry exist everywhere on earth, sadly. You're never going to rid the world of these ills.. I could go on endlessly about Islamic societies the world over, including in India, where there's all sorts of horrible going on too.

America hasn't gone to shit just because there's some racists among the majority white population, Saudia is ok despite all the wahhabism, India is fine too, despite some hateful people etc

In India, it is not just "exceptional muslims" who are doing well, like I said, I know a lot of normal everyday folk who are doing just fine.

 

[Sinnerman108]

IAS officer Shah Faesal took a dig at Pakistan on Tuesday after Rishi Sunak was appointed as the UK’s first Indian-origin Prime Minister. He cited his own journey as a civil services officer in India and said that nowhere else on earth do Muslims enjoy such freedom

“It's possible only in India that a Muslim youngster from Kashmir can go on to top the Indian Civil Service exam, rise to top echelons of the government, then fall apart with the government and still be rescued and taken back by the same government,” he tweeted in a threa

https://twitter.com/x/status/1584822403640983553

“Rishi Saunak's appointment might be a surprise for our neighbours where the Constitution bars non-Muslims from top posts in the Government, but Indian democracy has never discriminated ethnic and religious minorities from the rest,” Faesal tweeted on Tuesday.

“As equal citizens, Indian Muslims enjoy freedoms that are unthinkable in any other so called Islamic country.

Citing the ups and downs in his career as an IAS officer, Faesal said: “My own life-story is about a journey, shoulder to shoulder, with each fellow citizen of this nation of 1.3 Billion people, where I have felt owned, respected, encouraged and at times pampered at every step of the way. That's India.”

“From Maulana Azad to Dr. Manmohan Singh and Dr. Zakir Hussain to HE President Droupadi Murmu, India has always been THE land of equal opportunity and the road to the top is open to all. Won't be wrong if I say I have been to the mountain top and seen it for myself,” he added.

‘Only in India can a Muslim rise to top…’: IAS officer Shah Faesal’s dig at Pakistan

IAS officer Shah Faesal took a dig at Pakistan saying that only in India can a Muslim get freedom. He was referring to the fact that Pakistan bars non-Muslims from top government posts.

www.indiatoday.in

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022...inner-journalist-stopped-in-india-from-flying

Yahan nahi kuch bola ?

He is just another abdullah wannabe.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Rishi Sunaks allgeiance is with GB not India.
Him being Hindu ir of Indian ancestry is completely irrelevant. The real question and challange is if he is able to help the average British citizen out of poverty.
Indians need to get this into their brains.

 

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Rishi Sunaks allgeiance is with GB not India.
Him being Hindu ir of Indian ancestry is completely irrelevant. The real question and challange is if he is able to help the average British citizen out of poverty.

Pakistanis need to get this into their brains.​

ftfy, you're welcome !

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Bhartoads got a long way to go before they can match the Chinese in Xinjiang, when it comes to the bullshit...